Skip to comments.City Defends Hiring Non-Swimming Minorities as Lifeguards
Posted on 04/05/2013 7:05:29 PM PDT by John Semmens
While taking some flak for doing so, City of Phoenix officials are standing by their decision to accept non-swimming minorities as pool lifeguards.
The problem with requiring swimming proficiency as a condition of employment is that minorities would be under-represented among those we hire, City Parks and Recreation Administrator Alfredo Zote observed. The Mayor has asked us to strive for a workforce that mirrors the composition of the Citys population. We cant do that if we impose qualifications that have a disproportionate impact on any racial or ethnic groups.
As to whether the ability to swim might not be a crucial skill in the performance of the job, Zote demurred. Few of the annual drownings that occur in our state are at public pools, he pointed out. And we can team the non-swimming minority hire with a strong-swimming white hiree. That way the non-swimmer can help spot a potential drowning victim and direct the swimmer to rescue him.
While Zote acknowledged that he had no idea on whether the new policy would have any negative consequences for the safety of visitors to any of the Citys 23 public pools he did ask that critics balance any undesired outcomes at the pools with the social gains of our minority hiring policy. Providing employment for disfavored groups is not without its benefits. Whether their gains in self-esteem outweigh losses in terms of injury or fatalities at our sites is, in my opinion, a judgment call.
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It’s a good thing humans usually float.
Another satire article that could easily be true.
After they are dead.
And sadly, it's completely believeable, John.
You caught me this time, John, and I always catch satire. It’s too good not to be true!
Another satire article that could easily be true.
I actually thought this was true and just shrugged.
It’s hard to tell the difference between satire and truth these days.
We all float down here.
I wasn’t being time specific. :)
Always a giveaway that it's satire!
You are so right would anyone be surprised if it was true?
What? Only the whites can swim? There are no strong minority swimmers? Or is he just being racist?
“Another satire article that could easily be true.”
Not could easily be true, IT IS TRUE. Check out this.
All of John’s satires are at their essence true, just stretched a bit.
Everybody knows that blacks cannot swim.
Dang, you did get me. I usually get the satire threads as satire but this one sounded so real. I can imagine them saying things like that.
White guys can’t jump, black guys can’t swim. Sounds fair to me.
Captain Obvious, we all KNOW that it did happen, we are discussing the justification as imagined by John, and that’s missing from the article you linked.
Theres a good reason the city is hiring lifeguards that cant swim. Public pools are largely used by Latino and African-American kids, but most of the lifeguards are white and this creates a huge problem. The kids in the pool are all either Hispanic or black or whatever, and every lifeguard is white and we dont like that, says a Phoenix official quoted in the story.In other words, the city should hire someone with a skin color that doesn't offend the racists. That's "a good reason" why Whitey need not apply.
Sue these bastards.
Thanks for the post, and the ping John. Another good one. Enjoyed.
I only heard about this on hate talk radio so I have no idea what all was said or where the line is. It’s all so absurd - and all so plausible ;-)
I’d hate to be the parent whose drowning child was not saved by the affirmative action lifeguard.
Uno, Dos, Tres, Quatro, Sinko, baby.
Documentation File on the negative impact of the Obamanation Counterculture on America.
This is one that is so outrageous and perfect (for us to repeat) that I am naturally hesitant to even believe it is true.
You CANT get a better example than this.
Here in Maryland my favorite swimming hole 100 years history which was an absolute heaven in the summer was closed 2003 because an adult swimming across drowned (it had many posted signs 'swim at your own risk') and her parents sued,
And yes when all those years it was open before 2003 I went a few times a week every summer for a decade and saw very few blacks were swimming in it because few knew how to swim. they stuck with the pools.
The new America.
Sinko...best laugh of the day!
If the lifeguard jumps into the pool, better send TWO crews out. One to save the drowning victim and another to save the lifeguard.
Fantastic satire that is becoming reality every day.
An aquaintance sent the following email to the city employee who made that statement a couple days ago, they’ve not received a reply.
I read an article you are quoted in regarding a lack of diversity with your lifeguards in Phoenix.
”The kids in the pool are all either Hispanic or black or whatever, and every lifeguard is white,” she says, “and we don’t like that. The kids don’t relate; there’s language issues.”
In the first place you dont have to like that. The lifeguards are not there to relate they are there to save lives should an emergency arise. In fact lifeguards are not supposed to talk to people in or out of the pool when guarding, theyre supposed to stay alert and watch people
in the pool.
In the second place there should not be any language issues as long as the guards speak English, being theyre all white I would assume they speak it, this is the USA.
As lifeguarding is a field that is vital for safety it would seem guards should be selected for their ability and expertise, not their skin color.
Should an Hispanic or black person be about to drown I would think theyd want the very best qualified lifeguards guarding those Phoenix pools, it in fact could be the difference between life and death. Im positive you and your coworkers wouldnt “like that” if it was death.
Bill Cosby said it best quoting God...
“How long can you tread water?”
Today’s satire; tomorrow’s Leftist insanity imposed on everyone else!
How do you do this, John? Hidden mics? An "associate" in the HHS? Was Miss Cleo involved?
What a surprise.
And people think affirmatice action physicians are dangerous....
Revolting Idiot, what was the justification that John imagined that was not in the FOX article? Except for a bit of literary license, it’s pretty damn close - John didn’t exaggerate much.
Living up to your name, Captain Obvious, treating others as if they were uninformed idiots, and only you knew! Well, they’ve long known!
So you knew you were an idiot all along! You’re better informed than I thought.
Don’t be the first to throw stones if you live in a glass house.
City Officials are only following the example provided by the President of the United States as further evidence qualifications and substance are less important than feelings and ideology.
The safety and quality of life is less of a concern than the perception of oversight. see obamacare
As always, enjoy your work. Keep up the fight.
Non swimmers can hold their breath longer, said one official as he pointed to a lifeguard who had been floating face down for over half an hour.
Life Guards - Check
President - Check
Brain Surgeon - Check
Got anything better than worn cliches and personal insults, and links to articles that everyone's already read, along with explanations what they mean? Pitiful.
“Got anything better than worn cliches and personal insults”
That would be my question to you, Idiot. You started the insults - remember? You could use some manners - but at least you picked an accurate tag - you are Revolting.
GREAT Satire, JS.
Now a story of reality...
During WWII, my father-in-law volunteered for submarine duty. All candidates were required to take a swimming test. My F-I-L never learned to swim, so he had a buddy take the test for him.
He served in Submarine Service for his enlistment.
SALUTE to my FIL.
Uh, Ms. Martinez just WHO are you are referring to as "whatever"?
Scratch a liberal and there's a racist right under the skin.
I guess there are 3 kinds of people in this world. Hispanic, black and "whatever".
Guess I'm one of those "whatever" people.
Stranger things have happened, and I expect there will be more.
The US forest service requires MORE latino hire ons, at least they did a few years ago, and they just came right out and said it.
For an illegal alien to qualify for SSI, he/she is a shoe in to get it because not being able to speak English is considered a disability.
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