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Bloomberg: Interpretation of Constitution 'Must Change' to Stop Terrorism, Gun Violence
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | April 23, 2013 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 04/24/2013 7:50:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On Monday, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced that the Constitution would have to be reinterpreted in order to curtail civil liberties to prevent terrorism. Bloomberg likened such reinterpretation to the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Second Amendment, which he says allowed for greater gun control to preserve public safety.

At a press conference, Bloomberg stated, “The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry. But we live in a complex world where you’re going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.”

Bloomberg then likened his desire for more gun control to the need for more restrictions of civil liberties: “Clearly the Supreme Court has recognized that you have to have different interpretations of the Second Amendment and what it applies to and reasonable gun laws … Here we’re going to to have to live with reasonable levels of security.”

He continued, “It really says something bad about us that we have to do it. But our obligation first and foremost is to keep our kids safe in the schools; first and foremost, to keep you safe if you go to a sporting event; first and foremost is to keep you safe if you walk down the streets or go into our parks,” he said....

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 4thamendment; banglist; bloodoftyrants; bloomberg; constitution; corruption; govtabuse; guncontrol; pipsqueaktyrant; secondamendment; tyranny; waronliberty
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To: Trod Upon

[[Oh look, a disconnected lump of NYC dung wants to tell Americans how to live. Stay in your cesspit and preach to your lackeys, pocket Hitler!]]

The problem is that he’s gettign away with his ANTI-AMERICANISM- and them ore he gdets away with it, the further he pushes- knowing full well noone wil lstop him


21 posted on 04/24/2013 11:32:48 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bloomberg, you're not the Mayor of the USA so stop stressing your bloated disgusting ego
trying to rule over the rest of us. Stay in your cesspool.
22 posted on 04/24/2013 11:41:14 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tar & feathers were made for tyrants like Bloomberg.


23 posted on 04/25/2013 1:00:33 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

By “reinterpreted”, of course, he means tossed out the window, thereby making room for the transformation of those of superior judgment, like Michael Bloomberg, from mayors into emperors.

Michael, laddie, YOU are exactly why the constitution was written in the first place!


24 posted on 04/25/2013 3:16:04 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bloomburg and his ilk are the terrorists.


25 posted on 04/25/2013 3:26:57 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: All

Bloomberg and the U.S. government must change to prevent terrorism!


26 posted on 04/25/2013 3:36:29 AM PDT by bdog2995
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To: EdReform

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27 posted on 04/25/2013 4:58:08 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: babble-on
I believe in original intent, and it seems very clear to me that private citizens should be able to own a single shot muzzle loaded matchlock or flintlock gun or duelling pistol.

So then why aren't we dueling? What about cannon?

28 posted on 04/25/2013 9:08:46 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

If there were private citizens with cannon in 1789, I am not aware of it!

Plus could you really “bear” a cannon? Doesn’t bear in that context mean hold up its weight with your body?

I guess you can tell the gun control debate is not the one that really gets me going. But I am happy to support the views of my fellow conservatives who feel strongly about it, just as they back me to the hilt on the need to reduce middle class entitlement spending.


29 posted on 04/25/2013 11:27:54 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on
If there were private citizens with cannon in 1789, I am not aware of it!

Look into the warships used in the revolution. -- Plus there's this (see cite #51).

Plus could you really “bear” a cannon? Doesn’t bear in that context mean hold up its weight with your body?

Your misconception here is due to the subtle change in the meaning of "to bear arms" over the past century or so due to subtle changes in the connotation (due to usage frequency) of the word 'bear'.

BEAR - verb (used with object)

  1. to hold up; support: to bear the weight of the roof.
  2. to hold or remain firm under (a load): The roof will not bear the strain of his weight.
  3. to bring forth (young); give birth to: to bear a child.
  4. to produce by natural growth: a tree that bears fruit.
  5. to hold up under; be capable of: His claim doesn't bear close examination.
  6. to press or push against: The crowd was borne back by the police.
  7. to hold or carry (oneself, one's body, one's head, etc.): to bear oneself erectly.
  8. to conduct (oneself): to bear oneself bravely.
  9. to suffer; endure; undergo: to bear the blame.
  10. to sustain without yielding or suffering injury; tolerate (usually used in negative constructions, unless qualified): I can't bear your nagging. I can hardly bear to see her suffering so.
  11. to be fit for or worthy of: It doesn't bear repeating.
  12. to carry; bring: to bear gifts.
  13. to carry in the mind or heart: to bear love; to bear malice.
  14. to transmit or spread (gossip, tales, etc.).
  15. to render; afford; give: to bear witness; to bear testimony.
  16. to lead; guide; take: They bore him home.
  17. to have and be entitled to: to bear title.
  18. to exhibit; show: to bear a resemblance.
  19. to accept or have, as an obligation: to bear responsibility; to bear the cost.
  20. to stand in (a relation or ratio); have or show correlatively: the relation that price bears to profit.
  21. to possess, as a quality or characteristic; have in or on: to bear traces; to bear an inscription.
  22. to have and use; exercise: to bear authority; to bear sway.
As you can see there's a lot of meanings to the word 'bear' -- but we can group them into "idea-classes" if you will:
Now, in order to understand what it is "to bear arms" you need to cast your mind into feudal ages -- where a lord was obligated to render up the men/arms for an army [and/or navy] -- this, incidentally, is not solely a western as feudal Japan was similar. It was not uncommon for the common-man under the lord to be able to own/use private arms, but due to the nature of mankind it would change into a system where the common-man was disbarred the use of arms with exceptions so that the common men would not overthrow the lord. This led to a system of nobles, who had as their birthright the ownership and usage of weapons (in Japan this was the Samurai caste). -- This also gave rise to the right to bear arms as separate from ownership: the right to bear was the right to use, and the right to keep was the right to own. These were distinct in the time of knights so that they could muster an army (and also legally justify squires/armor-bearers).

In light of that understanding it is obvious that the 2ND amendment is, in effect, the enobling of every citizen -- as Coxe said:

The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but where, I trust in God, it will always remain, in the hands of the people.

Tench Coxe -- The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

I guess you can tell the gun control debate is not the one that really gets me going. But I am happy to support the views of my fellow conservatives who feel strongly about it, just as they back me to the hilt on the need to reduce middle class entitlement spending.

It's something I do feel strongly about, because the absolute nature of the language is indicative of how just the government, especially the judiciary, is.

30 posted on 04/25/2013 4:31:47 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I believe that you have carried the day (borne the day?).

That’s interesting reading, top to bottom, and clearly when it comes to original intent, indicates the framers did not want the people to be less well-armed than their government.

Of course tanks, fighter jets, satellites and drones complicate that picture quite a bit, and maybe even make the original framework irrelevant. (How are you going to overthrow a tyrant even if you do have an AR-15, when he has the power to plug you in the noggin from deep space with the push of a button?)


31 posted on 04/26/2013 5:46:44 AM PDT by babble-on
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