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The Military Experience of Anti-Veteran Republicans Paul Ryan, John Boehner, and Eric Cantor
Vanity | 17 Jan 14 | Xzins

Posted on 01/17/2014 6:48:35 AM PST by xzins

Paul Ryan: _________________

John Boehner: 8 weeks - Graduating from Moeller in 1968, when U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War was at its peak, Boehner enlisted in the United States Navy but was honorably discharged after eight weeks because of a bad back

Eric Cantor: _____________

None, 8 weeks, and None


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: gope; military; randsconcerntrolls; ryan; veterans

1 posted on 01/17/2014 6:48:35 AM PST by xzins
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To: All

These men should not be in leadership positions


2 posted on 01/17/2014 6:49:16 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

So. Is it safe to say that Boehner is spineless?


3 posted on 01/17/2014 6:51:13 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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I’ve seen wusses cry their way into an early discharge from basic training. Miserable creatures.

Wonder if Cryin’ John wept while he worked?


4 posted on 01/17/2014 6:51:22 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I can see how No Backbone can be called a “bad back”


5 posted on 01/17/2014 6:52:11 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Yet Boner can spend a lot of time on the golf course. Go figure.


6 posted on 01/17/2014 6:55:43 AM PST by yetidog
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To: xzins

Likely where he honed the skill.


7 posted on 01/17/2014 6:55:54 AM PST by onedoug
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To: xzins

Each one f these Treasonous SOBs supports Illegal Aliens over our Military Veterans

Any GOP Media and Talkers who do not advocate their being primaries are just as spineless and treasonous


8 posted on 01/17/2014 6:57:21 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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9 posted on 01/17/2014 7:03:09 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: xzins
I agree on the merits that what the so-called GOP 'leadership' did to screw vets out of their COLA was reprehensible. But their military records or lack thereof are irrelevant to the discussion: our side should NEVER play the 'chickenhawk' card.

Making the 'his opinion is irrelevant because he never served' argument gives the Left cover whenever they try to kneecap the military conducting its mission. Case in point: Iraq.

10 posted on 01/17/2014 7:04:00 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: onedoug

I’ve had them sit in a chair across from me and sob “I miss my girlfriend.”

Successfully holding back my tears, I’d always just tell them that even the paperwork to get them out could not be finished until they’d been there about 9 weeks...a week AFTER they will have finished basic training. (True info...I didn’t lie.)

They’d sit there stunned. Most of them figured it out, but there were some that kept crying. I always figured they were hiding some kind of disorder that would eventually get them out anyway.

Makes me wonder now about John Boehner.


11 posted on 01/17/2014 7:04:39 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“So. Is it safe to say that Boehner is spineless?”

It isn’t that they are spineless. Its that they really think this is OK. And the Dems are eager to go along with it so a double win in their eyes. They are probably shocked that anybody is giving them blowback for it.

After all most of these people go on to get another job after they muster out of the service so if we cut their benefits what the heck? Nobody gets hurt right? Thats the BS Ryan was trying to feed Hugh Hewitt the other day. Hewitt said to Ryan words to the effect of if you are going to borrow an additional $89 billion to add to the military spending why not just borrow a measly $8 billion more and not cut the benefits? Ryan had no answer.


12 posted on 01/17/2014 7:07:11 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: bassmaner; SkyPilot; Jet Jaguar
the 'his opinion is irrelevant because he never served' argument

Gotta disagree, basmaner. When the level of experience with the military is NIL, then any decisions against the military should be viewed with suspicion.

In this case, we know they simply threw veterans under the bus so they could spend more and still pursue their dreams of amnesty for illegals.

Their lack of experience was so complete that they had no idea how significant the sacrifice of experienced veterans guiding new soldiers is to making our military the best in the world AND keeping those new troops safe.

13 posted on 01/17/2014 7:09:59 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

HONORABLE military service should be a prerequisite for President and, therefore, anyone in the presidential line of succession. Voters should give more weight to candidates with military service backgrounds. Only wishful thinking on my part, though. Many of America’s previous and current “leaders” would have been kept away from positions of power if the aforementioned requirement was in place.


14 posted on 01/17/2014 7:18:51 AM PST by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: lakecumberlandvet

isn’t it interesting feminazis and libtrads tell conservative men we can’t talk about abortion because we won’t have the getting pregnant experience yet when we say people who didn’t serve in the military should not be on military committees etc we are close-minded.
i agree military experience should be a prerequisite don’t forget george mcgovern was a B-24 pilot and lindsey grahamnesty and juan mcvain have military service.


15 posted on 01/17/2014 7:26:35 AM PST by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: lakecumberlandvet

Since our country has never had a MARINE serve as POTUS, I believe that the time has come for this to change.

I would LOVE to see Marine General JAMES MATTIS (ret) step up for the job.

God knows that we would be better off with someone like him wearing the title of Commander In Chief. I believe that our allies could start trusting us again while our enemies would rediscover their fear of us.

OooRah!


16 posted on 01/17/2014 7:27:02 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: xzins

Pretty safe bet.


17 posted on 01/17/2014 7:27:33 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: lakecumberlandvet

Completely agree.


18 posted on 01/17/2014 7:28:38 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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19 posted on 01/17/2014 7:30:37 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: lakecumberlandvet
HONORABLE military service should be a prerequisite for President and, therefore, anyone in the presidential line of succession.

Other than John McCain and Weenie Graham then who does that leave for the GOP in 2016?

20 posted on 01/17/2014 7:31:52 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: xzins

Yup, when I went through basic we had a couple guys who either decided to quit pretty quickly, or had dischargable medical issues.

By the time we graduated and went home, they were still helping out at Reception Battalion, doing stuff in the kitchen or whatnot. It’s easier to just finish basic.


21 posted on 01/17/2014 7:33:31 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: lakecumberlandvet
HONORABLE military service should be a prerequisite for President and, therefore, anyone in the presidential line of succession. Voters should give more weight to candidates with military service backgrounds. Only wishful thinking on my part, though. Many of America’s previous and current “leaders” would have been kept away from positions of power if the aforementioned requirement was in place.

Sure...we'd have saved ourselves from the Presidencies of:

Jefferson
Adams (both)
Lincoln

Just to name a few

22 posted on 01/17/2014 7:35:44 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: bassmaner

But their military records or lack thereof are irrelevant to the discussion

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I disagree. The perspective and experience of our leaders is indeed relevant when it comes to their decisions that can put our troops in harm’s way. Fighting political battles in the halls of congress is a far cry from putting your life on the line in a foreign hell hole.

Most professions and occupations demand perspective and experience from their leaders. This leads to better and wiser decisions.


23 posted on 01/17/2014 7:52:11 AM PST by Starboard
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To: pgkdan

Lincoln served during the Black Hawk War.


24 posted on 01/17/2014 8:26:33 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: xzins

I just wished she’d missed me.

Thanks for your service.


25 posted on 01/17/2014 9:09:53 AM PST by onedoug
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To: xzins

That state which separates it’s warriors from it’s scholars will have it’s thinking done by cowards and fighting done by fools. - Thucydides, The Pelopenisian War

Just replace “scholars” with “Elected Officials”.


26 posted on 01/17/2014 9:10:58 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Why did Boehner get an honorable discharge and not a medical discharge after only eight weeks of service?


27 posted on 01/17/2014 9:42:15 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

He had to be claiming prior injury so not service connected.

Therefore, he would get no military disability pay the rest of his life.


28 posted on 01/17/2014 10:06:25 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Howie66
It would be a riot.

I can picture him during the State of the Union, turning and addressing Kongress and telling them, "If you f##K with me, I'll kill all of you."

29 posted on 01/17/2014 10:10:02 AM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender

I would support that. :-)


30 posted on 01/17/2014 10:17:59 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: xzins

ROTFL John Boehner medically discharged because of a bad back? Sounds like he had no backbone, even back then!


31 posted on 01/17/2014 10:19:50 AM PST by grania
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To: xzins

Boehner’s service was in 1968, not in this modern military, or the post Vietnam military.


32 posted on 01/17/2014 10:21:17 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: lakecumberlandvet

Have you ever heard of “credentialism?”


33 posted on 01/17/2014 10:34:21 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Oh boy now you did it, we are now going to have to watch him cry again.


34 posted on 01/17/2014 11:01:01 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: Cyber Liberty

Have you ever heard of “credentialism?”
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Yes. Thanks for asking.


35 posted on 01/17/2014 1:09:35 PM PST by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: lakecumberlandvet

No problem. It saves on thinking.


36 posted on 01/17/2014 1:45:10 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: xzins

But an HONORABLE discharge for only 8 weeks of service!!!?

Sheesh, that was easy.

Why did they not detect his prior injury during his medical exam?


37 posted on 01/17/2014 5:25:45 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Active Duty/Retiree ping.


38 posted on 01/17/2014 6:04:42 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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