"The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision
of what is before them, glory and danger alike,
and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it."~Thucydides
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Posted on 05/13/2014 5:52:30 AM PDT by JOHN W K
SEE: Did Michigan just trigger 'constitutional convention'? Bid gains steam
In the wake of the vote, California Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter pressed House Speaker John Boehner on Tuesday to determine whether the states just crossed the threshold for this kind of convention. Like Michigan lawmakers, Hunter's interest in the matter stems from a desire to push a balanced-budget amendment -- something that could potentially be done at a constitutional convention.
If Duncan Hunter wants to balance the annual budget, then why does he not “push” for and demand the apportioned direct tax which is in our Constitution be used to extinguish annual deficits as our Founding Fathers intended?
The liars are at it again, pretending their objectives are noble, but their ultimate aim is to convene a convention so those who now hold power at the federal and state level may rewrite our Constitution and make constitutional that which is now unconstitutional.
How is the budget to be balanced? The answer is found in a number of our State Ratification documents which gave birth to our Constitution, for example see: Ratification of the Constitution by the State of New Hampshire
Fourthly That Congress do not lay direct Taxes but when the money arising from Impost, Excise and their other resources are insufficient for the Publick Exigencies; nor then, untill Congress shall have first made a Requisition upon the States, to Assess, Levy, & pay their respective proportions, of such requisitions agreeably to the Census fixed in the said Constitution in such way & manner as the Legislature of the State shall think best and in such Case if any State shall neglect, then Congress may Assess & Levy such States proportion together with the Interest thereon at the rate of six per Cent per Annum from the Time of payment prescribed in such requisition-
For an example of a direct tax being laid by Congress see an Act laying a direct tax for $3 million in which the rule of apportionment is applied and each State’s share is determined.
Did you ever hear Mark Levin inform his listening audience that our founders put the emergency apportioned direct taxing power in the Constitution to be used when imposts, duties, and excise taxes were found insufficient to meet Congress expenditures ? I haven’t. But Mark Levin wants a convention so he can promote his socialist flat tax which he now does with one of his “liberty amendments”.
A flat tax calculated from incomes, even if “flat”, does absolutely nothing to remove the iron fist of our federal government from the necks of America’s hard working productive citizens and business owners.
Hey Mark, does your flat tax end our despotic federal government from arbitrarily deciding what is and what is not taxable income? No! Does your socialist tax on profits gains and other “incomes” end our Washington Establishment’s use of taxation to intentionally seek out America’s productive hard working citizens and transfer the bread they have earned to a dependent voting block who prostitutes their vote for free government cheese? No! Tell us Mark Levin, how about the devastating and slavish manipulations carried out under this socialist tax calculated from incomes? Does your flat tax end that and class warfare? No! Or, would your flat tax end taxation being used as a political weapon to silence, threaten and punish political foes while rewarding the friends of a tyrannical bloated federal government? Heck No! So why are you comfortable with a flat tax which in turn is a component part of a despotic federal government? I know why….you are part of the Washington Establishment which works to defeat the miracle our founding fathers created.
If you were really sincere about supporting our founding fathers Mark, you would be promoting a return to our Constitutions ORIGINAL TAX PLAN as our founders intended it to operate with the following H.J.RESOLUTION:
House/Senate Joint Resolution
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment and end taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes”.
Section 1: The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Section 2: Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.
Section 3: This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by three fourths of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission thereof to the States by the Congress.
JWK
" I believe that there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." ___ Madison Elliot`s Debates, vol. III, page 87
The Fair Tax is evil and socialist? Dude, you're nuts.
To be fair, he is not addressing the Fair Tax, he is addressing the Flat tax.
I am for the excise tax.
I was being generic. Fair Tax/Flat Tax/whatever...
Helluva lot better than 74,000 pages of IRS Tax Code we have now.
Maybe. But I think it's more of a "Don't throw me into that briar patch!" deal. A constitutional convention is russian roulette as far as I am concerned. The right is losing election after election due to voter fraud, bait-n-switch RINO politicians and so on. Who is to say that Obama doesn't pack the convention like he packed the Texas primaries.
And in any case, if we can't enforce the constitution we have now, what difference will it make if we give Obama (or his Dem successors) a different constitution that they will also ignore?
Does anyone believe we will ever get rid of Harry Reid, or Pelosi? San Fran loves her.
The only ways I know of of doing these things involves blood. Having a large argument for years won't fix a thing, IMO.
Can you imagine what kind of rules the lefties would suggest?
Article. V.The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
You really think redemption for this country is going to come through the ballot box? What a fool.
You don’t know what you are talking about in regards to the second part of Article V.
Somebody needs an education. Geez.
I'm just saying this is a can of worms that would probably end up in a way we weren't expecting. You have to remember, IMO, we are NOT in the majority anymore, and I certainly doubt we could get a 2/3 or 3/4 vote on any subject now. Over 80% of Americans claim to be Christians, yet we have open homosexuality, Abortion, Bible bans, no prayer, ect. The caliber of "citizen"( I use that loosely), has no clue about human nature and have NO wisdom. The beauty of our Founders was they understood completely what it would take for freedom to reign. We have lost that. today.
Right you are! And it's important to note that there are more Republican governors than Democratic. And there are more Republican state legislatures than Democratic.
This is the time to get 'er done.
"The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision
of what is before them, glory and danger alike,
and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it."~Thucydides
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Yep,
and the magic unicorn will save us all.
And Sarah Palin will for sure run and win in 2012,
Happy days are here again.
Sorry about your Tourette’s syndrome. Hope your medication helps.
Your predictive skills are uncanny
To: greene66
My bet is Sarah's put a LOT more thought into running than you have.
She is still far more of a known quantity than any of the other GOP candidates. There is no need for her to get in until the very last minute. By waiting she lets them receive a small measure of the anal exam she has already been subjected to.
She's known for a long time when she is going to pull the trigger.
That will be quite obvious when the time comes.
18 posted on Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:25:42 PM by E. Pluribus Unum
Yes, quite obvious, that and the magic unicorns coming to save us.
Your Tourette’s is getting worse.
You got great predictive powers, were right about Sarah waiting till January 2012 or so to jump in and knock the others out then defeat Obama in Nov 2012,
so I am sure you are right about this too.
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