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Cruz Is a Safer General-Election Bet than Trump
The National Review ^ | April 12, 2016 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 04/13/2016 9:04:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The conventional wisdom is that though Ted Cruz can excite the conservative-activist base of the Republican party, he can’t beat Hillary Clinton in a general election. But the recent head-to-head polling tells a different story. Unless your name is George W. Bush, it’s tough to win 270 electoral votes without winning the popular vote. And Cruz is hanging in there against the Democratic front-runner. The RealClearPolitics average puts Clinton at 46.4 percent and Cruz at 43.9 percent; the most recent McClatchy-Marist survey has it a tie. Meanwhile, Donald Trump, the current Republican front-runner, hasn’t led Clinton in any national poll since mid February, and trails her by 10.6 points in the RCP average. Democrats will contend the Texas senator is unlikeable, and scoff that about 53 percent of adults have an unfavorable opinion of Cruz . . . a charge that would carry more weight if 54 percent of adults didn’t have an unfavorable opinion of Clinton. Cruz and his campaign have openly discussed a general-election strategy focused upon mobilizing conservative voters who haven’t turned out in recent cycles, and de-emphasizing an appeal to swing voters. Quite a few political scientists, pollsters, and analysts are skeptical that the approach can win, but what if 2016 comes down to Hillary Clinton, unloved by the Sanders-backing progressive base and distrusted by independents, against Cruz and an energized GOP base? As NR reported back in January, “Cruz heads the most data-driven campaign in the GOP race, employing cutting-edge technology to profile, target, and turn out supporters. Statistical awareness permeates the culture of the operation from the candidate to his most junior aides.” Based on the Cruz campaign’s deft maneuvering in the delegate chase, there’s some reason to believe the Texas senator’s claims that he can win by focusing on the little details and mobilizing previously ignored voters.

Trump also contends he’ll bring out new voters, winning over blue-collar independents and the old Reagan Democrats. His fans have argued that he would put a lot of traditionally Democratic states, such as New York and Michigan, back in play. But so far, there’s little evidence to back up that claim; Trump trails Clinton in his home state of New York by 16 to 29 points. In the three polls in Michigan in March, Trump trailed by double digits. (Unsurprisingly, Cruz polls badly in these states, too.) Florida is one of the few states where Trump is running better against Clinton than Cruz is. Trump has enjoyed a narrow lead over Clinton in about half the recent polls there, while Clinton nurses a small but steady lead over Cruz. (For what it’s worth, the latest CNN poll has Cruz ahead of her by one point in Florida.)

Cruz is running surprisingly well in Ohio. The most recent NBC News/Marist poll puts Cruz ahead of Clinton by two points there, while Trump trails her by six. Quinnipiac, the only recent poll of the Buckeye State to show Trump leading Clinton, has Cruz ahead of her by three and Trump up by two. RELATED: Ted Cruz Is Surging by Design Pennsylvania is one of those states that seems to tease the GOP every election cycle, only to vote for the Democratic nominee by a comfortable margin. Winning Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes would provide a big boost to any Republican nominee, forcing the Democrats to pick off votes on less-friendly terrain. The good news for Trump is that the most recent poll, by Fox News, has him tied in Pennsylvania. But the four preceding polls of the state showed him trailing Clinton by anywhere from three to 13 points. Fox News didn’t ask about a Cruz–Clinton matchup, but Quinnipiac has Cruz and Clinton tied in Pennsylvania, while Clinton is ahead of Trump by three.

Like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin is one of those potential swing states where Republicans have struggled to compete in recent presidential cycles. Even the presence of Paul Ryan on the ticket in 2012 only reduced Obama’s margin of victory from 14 points to seven. But Cruz is running surprisingly close there; the Emerson poll puts Clinton ahead of him by three points and the Marquette University survey has them tied. The two polls put Trump behind Clinton by ten points. One of the biggest contrasts between the GOP candidates comes in Iowa. NBC News and PPP have Clinton ahead of Tump by eight points and two points respectively. The same polls put Cruz ahead of Clinton by four points and three points. Perhaps one of the strongest arguments for nominating Cruz over Trump is that it would lock up states Republicans should never have had to worry about in the first place. The controversial mogul is so repugnant to some groups of traditionally Republican-leaning voters, he would put some previously deep-red states in play.

A 28-point lead for Ted Cruz over Hillary Clinton in Utah is not particularly surprising — but it is noteworthy given that Clinton actually leads Trump by two in the latest poll of this conservative stronghold, which hasn’t voted for a Democratic presidential nominee since 1964. Democrats have dreamed of turning Arizona into a swing state for years; the Merrill poll found Clinton tied with Trump there. The same poll showed Cruz leading Clinton by six points. In Mississippi, a Mason-Dixon poll put Trump ahead of Clinton, 46 percent to 43 percent. The same poll put Cruz ahead of her, 51 percent to 40 percent. If Cruz’s strategy was such a sure loser, so devoid of appeal to anyone outside the conservative base, we might expect his head-to-head polling against Hillary Clinton to be as bad as Trump’s. But in state after state, Cruz runs better than Trump against the likely Democratic nominee. Perhaps this reflects Clinton’s persistently high disapproval numbers, or maybe Trump’s smash-mouth braggadocio makes Cruz look comparably warm and fuzzy. Either way, at this point, Cruz appears to have a legitimate shot against Clinton — not a great shot, but a shot. The same cannot be said of Trump. You do the math.


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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yammering on about Cruz is the best for ... or Trump can get... is silly boyscout stuff. Who care what any writer the issue of Cruz or Trump — it means nothing but a biased push...

The only thing that matters is a REAL VOTE in a real voting booth... and the results thereof ... everything else is dog doo doo ... and is not worth the electrons to display it on a computer screen...

GET A LIFE ... go out and knock on doors and promote your guy ... endless harping and carping are worthless ...


101 posted on 04/13/2016 11:12:18 PM PDT by ICCtheWay (1)
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To: ICCtheWay

I get a lot of free advice here and most of it is worth exactly what I paid for it.


102 posted on 04/13/2016 11:14:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: All

I have a lot of respect for Ted Cruz. However, I think he is currently being used by the GOPe in order to deny Trump the necessary delegates to win on the first ballot. When the GOPe influenced delegates are free to vote for whomever, they will abandon Cruz like a hot potato. Hell, then the Republicans are free to nominate Jeb Bush like the GOPe has wanted to since last summer.

In my opinion if the Trump and Cruz supporters do not work together, neither are going to be happy with the result of the GOP convention. With no cooperation, neither Trump nor Cruz is going to win.


103 posted on 04/13/2016 11:30:04 PM PDT by nightowl_jg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was for Cruz before I became indifferent to Cruz. NR is one of many reasons I became indifferent to Cruz.


104 posted on 04/13/2016 11:43:56 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: lee martell
Wasn’t it just two days ago that Donald said were he in office, he might approve selling malfunctioning missiles to Iran, just to hobble their progress and security status. What? That’s not something he should even be joking about, at least not publicly. Donald shakes my confidence when he does dumb stuff like that, shooting himself in the foot over and over.

Get a grip, please. Trump said that as opposed to US handing over Iran's frozen assets of $150 billion dollars and watch them use it to buy missiles from Russia, China or other countries.

So, it's not so dumb as you finding fault with him saying it. Obama, Ted Cruz, and Congress allowing a terrorist nation to build WMD's in ten years and funding them while they do it is rather dumb.

105 posted on 04/13/2016 11:43:57 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - voted Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: jimpick

If the thread makes it past 500 posts they will toss their teddy bears on the floor snd start saying the O.P. is having affairs with 12 women.....


106 posted on 04/13/2016 11:56:03 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Trump, effective govt. that will be great for crony "art of the deal" capitalists)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The love! The little ponies! Ooooooo! What's there not to love about Cruuuuuz!?


107 posted on 04/14/2016 12:08:30 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: kiryandil; 2ndDivisionVet; map; cba123

Vet has served the country a lot more than I, and I’m sure most of us have.

He doesn’t post hateful responses. He posts threads that are not zotted, and last I checked Jim Robinson was the boss around here.

I’m voting for Trump in five days, but do we now turn on patriots because we don’t like the guy they’re voting for.


108 posted on 04/14/2016 12:09:37 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

I’m all for 2ndDivisionVet, I have supported him here for a number of years.

I was challenging him today, and was satisfied with his answer.

He is evidently (not) spamming commercially.

That does not mean he’s not 100% incorrect, he is. He should urge his candidate to stop fighting Donald Trump, and we should all start working for the same person to beat the one the democrats send out.

But he’s not it seems, spamming commercially.


109 posted on 04/14/2016 12:16:11 AM PDT by cba123 (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: cba123

I agree about Cruz dropping out, believe me!

but Vet is a standup guy.

Trump!!


110 posted on 04/14/2016 12:22:49 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Dstorm
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111 posted on 04/14/2016 12:25:59 AM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: cba123
I don't think he's paid to do this.

He did this for Palin in the day, and I am certain he was not paid.

He's just shilling for his candidate, really believes in him.

He's a pretty good guy. He may be overzealous, but aren't we all at this point.

Just my opinion.

112 posted on 04/14/2016 12:26:47 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: Lakeshark
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113 posted on 04/14/2016 12:31:42 AM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: dp0622; cba123; 2ndDivisionVet

Whenever I hear that Cruz should drop out - I get it. I don’t believe he should though. And the last few days I kept thinking of “The Man in the Arena” by Teddy Roosevelt. (Also “Was it over when Germany bombed Pearl Harbor!!??):

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

Of course, the above fits for Mr. Trump (and Kasich, perhaps) as well.


114 posted on 04/14/2016 12:36:44 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: bushpilot2

Yes really!


115 posted on 04/14/2016 1:15:29 AM PDT by Dstorm ( Cruz 2016)
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To: Slyfox

He actually answered the same question on another thread. If anyone wants the answer I suggest they do a little research.


116 posted on 04/14/2016 2:18:35 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: cba123

You’re the one spamming by repeatedly asking the same question time and time again. Move on...get a life....


117 posted on 04/14/2016 2:22:37 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What, that he’s not an NBC?


118 posted on 04/14/2016 2:24:35 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: lee martell

Citation?


119 posted on 04/14/2016 2:26:20 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: gg188

Can you provide a link?


120 posted on 04/14/2016 2:28:17 AM PDT by Roses0508
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