Skip to comments.Outrage erupts over Trump speech praising Civil War general – but here’s the whole story
Posted on 10/13/2018 6:40:42 PM PDT by TBP
So Robert E. Lee was a great general, Trump told the audience. And Abraham Lincoln developed a phobia.
He couldnt beat Robert E. Lee, he explained. He was going crazy.
I dont know if you know this story, he continued. But Robert E. Lee was winning battle after battle after battle.
And one day it was looking really bad and Lincoln just said you hardly knew his name, he said, and they said dont take him hes got a drinking people.
And Lincoln said I dont care what problem he has, you guys arent winning, Trump continued. And his name was Grant, General Grant. And he went in and he knocked the hell out of everyone.
Outrage erupts over Trump. Period. Let them outrage early and often.
Trump is the MASTER TROLLER of the Left and MSM (one and the same).
This was a one-two punch with West and he knew they would parse it the way they did, and the way he presented it to him on a platter.
We have the finest Leader in the World! DJT!
The Civil War is extremely complex.
None of us were witness to it. We have to study it.
What we learn is filtered through the memories of the participants and the themes of authors.
Good, bad, right, wrong or indifferent, Lee won when the odds were against him.
He was a very good Commander.
Lee was an excellent general and he had many truly excellent generals on his staff.
Lee was brilliant at exploiting the weaknesses of his opponents. It just happens that the weaknesses of his opponents were their generals. Let’s face it, the generals he went up against; McClelland, Burnside, Hooker, and most of the rest were third rate. Primarily political promotes. It’s easy to come out on top when you’re a first rate general with first rate subordinates going against the third string.
Grant and Sherman were very good generals who knew their own shortcomings and they knew how to fight and when they failed they came back even more aggressively. Never give up.
They also knew that Lee was letting his fame influence his decisions. He proved that in spades with the decisions he made at Gettysburg. He came to believe he could not be beaten and convinced his troops of the same. Overconfidence is a fatal flaw in any commander.
At Gettysburg, maybe Lee figured he needed a victory inside Northern territory because the South could not compete with the North in terms of resources and logistics.
So perhaps Pickett’s charge was a calculated gamble. If not now, when? He had to take the chance to secure a major victory because after Gettysburg and Grant/Sherman’s successes in the West, it was almost guaranteed that the South would lose.
I love and honor the memory of Robert E. Lee . Deo Vindice !
At the start of the Civil war, the South had better senior officers, but the Union got 90% of the noncoms. That was why the Union never had the desertion problems the Confederacy had.
So when are they going to fire Don Lemon?
I didn’t know that about the noncoms. Source?
SJW and NPC outrage at an instance without thinking. The norm of today.
I don’t remember the specific source, but my guess is that most of the noncoms were Irish immigrants, who name to America via New York city, and had a great love for their new country.
I believe General Meade was the commander of the Army of the Potomac at Gettysburg, even though he had little to do with the tactical aspects of the battle?
There were a number of talented unit commanders at Gettysburg on both sides and Robert E Lee’s blind resolve to force a decisive win in the battle cost thousands of lives in a battle noted for it’s ferocity and blood letting.
The long and complex battle actually ran from June 30th when the Union cavalry intercepted the advancing Confederate column and there were many instances of personal courage and tragedy.
Lee was playing for the wrong team. If a thief were to break into your home or hack into your computer, would you admire his ingenuity in doing it?
Meade had only been put in command of the Army of the Potomac a few days before Gettysburg. He actually did awfully well considering he had just been thrown into the command. He didn’t do anything brilliant in maneuver but he picked the right defensive positions and let Lee break his army attacking a stout defense.
Meade can perhaps be faulted for not following and counter-attacking Lee’s army aggressively as it retreated south. There may well have been an opportunity to change the war even more decisively than occurred at Gettysburg itself (which was “the high water mark of the Confederacy” according to many historians).
But Meade had so little time in command, and many uncertainties about what was going on in the aftermath, so he may have been wise to take a cautious view of the post-Gettysburg situation. Arguably, Meade might have dealt a catastrophic blow to Lee’s retreating army, but it may have been hard to know that at the time.
Well your extreme bias is on display for all to see. I wouldn’t trust your account of any historical subject.
Actually Mead didnt pick the ground at Gettysburg, it was Gen Buford who got the high ground.
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