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Can someone explain to me why the Dummycrats think there is any grounds for impeachment?
cronos ^ | 14 Dec 2019 | Cronos

Posted on 12/14/2019 11:40:41 AM PST by Cronos

I haven't bothered with these witch-hunts, being out of the States for some time now, but now I see the Dummycrats have taken it up a notch and I figured I ought to know something about this in case asked.

I digged and digged and I can't figure out what the heck President Trump is alleged to have done.

I read that he was alleged to have pressured Ukraine on a quid pro quo for some investigations against Dems. But then there's a statement that Trump said "I don't want nothing"

And even if a President tells a foreign government "you don't get money from the USA unless you do something for us" what is the problem?

What should I tell people who ask me? I figure on the simple "It's a witch-hunt. The President broke no laws and the one thing he's accused of doing was denied by a key witness"


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To: Cronos

They believe their own press releases


41 posted on 12/14/2019 12:22:56 PM PST by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . .)
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To: Cronos
Democrats' REAL grounds for impeachment:

1) It was her turn.

2) History is on our side.

3) Russia Russia Russia.

4) It WAS her turn.

42 posted on 12/14/2019 12:29:53 PM PST by Salman (The Democrat agenda in one word -- revenge.)
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To: Cronos
They believed it when they were told that impeachment was whatever the House said it was.

They found out that it's whatever the people say it is, and the people are saying it's not this.

-PJ

43 posted on 12/14/2019 12:31:27 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Cronos

He won.


44 posted on 12/14/2019 12:31:41 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Cronos

There are no grounds. It’s about weakening Trump in next year’s election.


45 posted on 12/14/2019 12:31:42 PM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: BenLurkin

46 posted on 12/14/2019 12:35:53 PM PST by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: Cronos

47 posted on 12/14/2019 12:37:26 PM PST by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: Cronos

Because democrats are still bitter over Hillary losing and Trump seems to be a serious threat to their way of life (corruption). They needed to come up with any reason whatsoever.


48 posted on 12/14/2019 12:39:00 PM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: bankwalker

“It began about 100 years ago ....”

Yes. More than actually, but about is right.


49 posted on 12/14/2019 12:39:11 PM PST by rockinqsranch ("Democratic" party sold out to the ICP. It is now the Communist Party USA.)
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To: abclily

“Dems are still trying to protect Obama.”

That’s a huge part of it.


50 posted on 12/14/2019 12:39:26 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Cronos

He beat Hillary. Unforgiveable sin.


51 posted on 12/14/2019 12:41:15 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: Cronos

They have ZERO grounds.

They ALL know this. They ALL are faking it.

They are doing it for ONE reason, well maybe two, but they are connected.

1. Congressman Al Green said: “Green said, “I’m concerned if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected.”

2. They HATE Trump!

As to number 1, They KNOW Trump will get reelected in a LANDSLIDE!
His coattails will take back the House and INCREASE seats in the Senate. The leftist Democrat party will be FINISHED!

This is why, even though they are LOSING, they have to double down, ALL IN, pedal to the metal, balls to wall, stick to their impeachment FIASCO.

It’s their ONLY hope. Which is quickly dissipating.

As to number 2, They were so PISSED that all their efforts to bring him down in the primaries didn’t work and that he badly beat Hillary while they all thought it was in the bag already for her, that they are DERANGED with anger and hatred.

Not to mention, that the “DO NOTHING” (except impeachment) Democrat controlled House has NOTHING to show for their tenure in control.

Despite blocking Trump in every way, he is still building the wall, bringing back jobs, bringing back manufacturing, making us energy independent and the biggest exporter of oil and gas in the WORLD!

Keeping coal mines open, causing new steel plants to be built. Cutting regulation, not 2 for 1 like he promised, but 22 to 1 (2018). BEST economy in HISTORY. LOWEST unemployment. highest employment, rising wages, no inflation, record high stock market, rejecting old and making new trade deals, rebuilding our military, oh yeah, the BIGGEST TAX CUT IN HISTORY!

All that off the top of my head. A little Google and you could find a HUNDRED more reasons to reelect Trump.

THAT, my friends is why they are trying to impeach Trump.


52 posted on 12/14/2019 12:56:11 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Cronos

You asked so...

The deep state runs the country.

They decide who goes to jail and who doesn’t.

They decide who is allowed to tap into the many money laundering schemes that make pols and others rich off tax payer dollars.

Trump stands to expose them all.

Strip them of their power.

Eliminate their corrupt money schemes and expose them to legal jeopardy which could lead to life sentences or the death penalty for sedition and traitorous act. The gallows.

That is why the desperation and all out assault on Trump.

Framing innocent people to ensure their survival is another day at the office for the deep state.

Where many people fail in their analysis, is they believe the deep state hates Trump. Well... the left’s base does because they are truly insane, but, the leadership doesn’t.

They just don’t want to lose their power, money, freedom or life.

Shit’s about to get real in the Senate, because Senator’s on both sides are dirty and under the deep states protection thus far.

Does that answer your question.


53 posted on 12/14/2019 1:03:45 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: Cronos

The answer: He makes them mad.


54 posted on 12/14/2019 1:11:42 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cronos
Can someone explain to me why the Dummycrats think there is any grounds for impeachment?

They apparently believe that anyone running for the office of President of the United States has immunity from prosecution for any felonies that that that person may have committed during the course of a prior tenure of employment by the United States, such as Vice president. Anyone attempting to investigate corruption by an office holder of the United States government is abusing his power.

Secondly, notwithstanding 700 years of anglo-american common law precedent, anyone receiving a subpoena who applies to the courts to resist the subpoena is guilty of obstruction of Congress.

These concepts are encapsulated by the new legal theory, "The Dodgsonian Imperative" ( named after the famous Oxford don Charles Ludwige Dodson famous in mathematical and logic circles) called Dodgy for short.

And there is a third cause which is " Orange Man Bad"

55 posted on 12/14/2019 1:56:22 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Cronos
Can someone explain to me why the Dummycrats think there is any grounds for impeachment?

Because leftards believe that “evidence” based on

hearsay
innuendo
presumptions
prejudice/bias
lies/dishonesty/deception
emotions
fantasies
hoaxes/myths/con jobs
wishful thinking
conjectures
mind reading
mere opinion
speculation
ill conceived ideas
misperceived ideas
mistakes/errors

are facts

56 posted on 12/14/2019 2:00:09 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: richmwill

“If they were honest, they would just say “It’s because we’re still miffed that Hillary lost”.

You’re right. But you might want to adds to it, “and they’re scare to death they are going to get hammered in 2020 and are frightened they will lose both houses, and the mayoral positions throughout the states. So they have to make everyone dirty to balance the power and have nothing to do it with other than lies.”

rwood


57 posted on 12/14/2019 2:29:24 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: Cronos
The hyperpartisanship of the Wellstone memorial service was such a smashing success that that has become their default mode for everything.

Anyone who wants common sense or calm reasoned discussion is a racist or a deplorable.

What was the expression Joe Biden used? Was it "scum of the earth" or "dregs of society" (or both)?

58 posted on 12/14/2019 2:49:53 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Cronos
"abuse of power for personal gain." This is a question for the courts to decide if there was illegal use of the office. Congress doesn't decide legalities.
When Nixon gave in he lost in the supreme court he knew he was beat. similar with Clinton was cited by Federal District Judge Susan Webber Wright for civil contempt of court for his "willful failure" to obey her repeated orders to testify truthfully in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit

In other words congress before articles of impeachment should be made the courts need to rule against the president. Other wise it's congress that is abusing power.

"obstruction of Congress" can only happen if the president holds up congress during an impeachment procedure. That hasn't happened. This is what they're praying he does. This is the only chance they have on impeachment.

Why are they doing this impeachment? In my opinion because indictments can't be made against witnesses of said impeachment. That would have to be resolved by the supreme court I would imagine

59 posted on 12/14/2019 2:54:08 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Cronos

The Demoncrats are trying to impeach President Trump because they cannot beat him in the upcoming 2020 election. It really is that simple.


60 posted on 12/14/2019 6:33:37 PM PST by slimer (“I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.)
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