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Posted on 09/23/2021 7:25:22 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat
On an unknown date in the latter half of 782, Charlemagne did some seriously nasty business with a captured army of Saxons.
In the late 8th century, the King of the Franks was fighting a decades-long running campaign against Saxon tribes at the edge of his sprawling European empire.
One part Christianizing the pagans and two (or more) parts territorial aggrandizement, Charlemagne’s exertions on the Rhinish frontier were opposed by Widukind, or Witikind, or Widochind, whose “forest-child” name belies its owner’s legendary ferocity.
In the summer of 782, when Charlemagne perhaps thought he had whatever passed for peace among the querulous Saxons, Widukind raised a revolt and dealt the Franks a stinging defeat that put a couple of imperial legates into the ground and made some martyrs out of clerics he found in the wrong place at the time.
Charlemagne’s forces counterattacked and routed the Saxons at the Battle of Suntel (or Sonnethal) Mountain, and thereupon....
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Ah, the good old days.
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Outstanding reference! By both you and that movie!
The Romans would only execute the leaders. The rank and file, healthy young men were sold into slavery. Wonder how many people living today are descendants of those defeated soldiers that were enslaved by the Romans for over 600 years. Charlemagne could have made a pretty penny if he sold them off rather than execute them.
Get along
Get along, Kid Charlemagne
Get along, Kid Charlemagne
And after centuries of this nonsense the penchant to apply religion as a violent political force was bled out of Europe and gradually the laws of the secular government quit being used to enforce purely religious dictates, and freedom to practice the religion of your choice became institutionalized in the western nations.
Well, Christianity has a little over 600 years head start on Islam and the wars that used religion as their causes in Europe finished about mid-century in the 1600s, so does that mean the world has until maybe the 2200s before Islamic states will be bled of their church-state ties, OR is that impossible with Islam?
More "everybody is the same under the skin" nonsense.
Of course it's impossible with Islam.
However - Islam cannot be eradicated, and if it could be, it would be wrong to do it.
Keeping them out of the non-Islamic world (with the probable exception of the Levant) is eminently achievable and should be done.
But these constant posts about what they do in their own countries is stupid, because there is no practical remedy and it's none of our business anyway.
Where is the Islamic Reformation?
That has to happen before there will ever be an Islamic Enlightenment.
For either of those to happen, Muslims need to have some qualms about murdering those who disagree with them.
Islamic people believe none of that. They believe it is their duty to conquer others.
Eradication may be the proper response. It is what they did to Christians in the lands they conquered. It was done gradually, with taxes and constraints over centuries.
If it's impossible to reform and it's inherently (and violently) expansionist, then it will always be our business to mind what they do in their own countries.
It only became possible to ignore them from the early 19th century to post-WWII, when they were so defeated and overawed by Western military prowess that they were no longer a threat.
You are obsolete
Look at all the white men on the street
Right now there are only fringe Islamic figures, with little following, even suggesting any kind of “reformation” within Islam, and some former Muslims who have written that it is not possible with Islam because too much of the core of Islam would have to be denied, which if pursued would literally invalidate Islam, not “reform” it.
The only “reformation” that is going on within Muslims is groups of Muslims in the west living a Muslim life that is sort of like secular Jews living a sort of Jewish life.
The Italians who reconquered the city spared the Christians, but put all the Muslims to the sword.
Please outline a plan.
No thanks.
Christ will eradicate Islam when He returns.
Civilize ‘em with a Krag
Referring to the Us Army Krag Jorgenson rifle
Yeah, I can’t see Muhammed Luther nailing 95 theses to the mosque door.
Either he would be hunted down and killed by the believers, or arrested and prosecuted for a hate crime.
As mohammedanism is a death cult, it seems it would be difficult to predict.
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