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Fragments of another skull unearthed at the Atapuerca site
Typically Spanish ^ | July 24, 2007 | m.p

Posted on 10/16/2007 7:49:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Juan Luis Arsuaga, co-director of the excavations, announced on Tuesday that the discovery was made in the 'Sima de los Huesos, - 'The Pit of the Bones' and that the skull is that of a hominid female, probably in her teens. It's the sixteenth such find at the site, and is believed to be more than 500,000 years old. Another of the three Atapuerca co-directors, Jose Maria Bermudez de Castro, has meanwhile said that a study of two fossilised human teeth also discovered at the dig will likely be published in an international scientific journal early next year. One of them could be as much as 1.2 million years old.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: atapuerca; godsgravesglyphs
Fragments of another skull unearthed at the Atapuerca site
The three Atapuerca co-directors with some of the finds unearthed at the archaeological site. Photo – EFE. Archaeologists say it belongs to a hominid female and could be more than 500,000 years old

1 posted on 10/16/2007 7:49:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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‘First west Europe tooth’ (million-year-old human tooth) found in Spain
BBC News | 6-30-07 | BBC/AFP
Posted on 06/30/2007 6:05:03 PM EDT by GraniteStateConservative
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2 posted on 10/16/2007 7:49:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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3 posted on 10/16/2007 7:51:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh darn, does this mean that 500,000 years ago we were not ‘apes’?


4 posted on 10/16/2007 7:55:29 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Dustbunny

Hell, I wasn’t even born yet.


5 posted on 10/16/2007 7:57:15 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Dustbunny

Our ancestors were still building the Face on Mars back then. ;’)


6 posted on 10/16/2007 9:01:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
species at Sima de los Huesos was a direct ancestor of the Neanderthals.

Skull 5 Homo heidelbergensis or related species 400,000 years old photo D. Finnin/AMNH

Most of the bones from Sima de los Huesos are extensively broken and fractured—including this skull.

7 posted on 10/16/2007 2:59:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL.... you may be right


8 posted on 10/16/2007 3:45:13 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Fred Nerks; Dustbunny

Geez, for layin’ in the ground a mere 500K years, those skulls are sure in lousy shape. ;’)


9 posted on 10/16/2007 4:56:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, October 16, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Determining the age of fossils found in conditions like those at Sima de los Huesos is notoriously difficult. At Gran Dolina, clues from the distinct archaeological layers helped pinpoint the age of the fossils found there. But the Pit of the Bones is filled with muddy sediments with no distinct geologic layers that can be easily dated.

I take it they really don't know...(anything.)

10 posted on 10/16/2007 5:08:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Must be the “cave” remained exposed to the great outdoors and ran downhill, analogous to KV5 in Egypt’s V of the Kings.


11 posted on 10/16/2007 6:24:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, October 16, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
graphic files and documentary of the Atapuerca excavations
12 posted on 10/16/2007 9:10:04 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Wowzo, this is better than I'd hoped, the transcript of the BBC "The Spartans" program, narrated and hosted by Bettany Hughes:
Cinadon's conspiracy
from "The Spartans"
One of the conspiracy's leaders, Cinadon, was neither a helot nor a perioikoi but what was known as a 'lower-grade Spartan'. There were a number of ways you could be reduced to this limbo-like state. Cowardice in battle made you a 'trembler'. Low or mixed birth made you a mothakes, like Lysander. You could even be stripped of citizenship for failure to pay your subs to the common mess.

The alarming thing about Cinadon's conspiracy was its reach. It appeared to involve everyone from helot through perioikoi to the 'lower-grade Spartans' – all of those who had been excluded from the full benefits of the Spartan utopia and who, according to Cinadon, wanted 'to eat the Spartans, raw'.

Once they had made their confessions, Cinadon and his fellow conspirators were driven through the city at spear-point, through a gauntlet of whips, to face their final punishment. They probably ended up at a crevasse a few miles outside Sparta called Keadhas, a place of execution.

Ever since, legends about this place have always been sinister, but it seems that, for once, the locals weren't exaggerating. An archaeological study has revealed that the floor of the crevasse is thick with human remains – it's literally a subterranean bone yard.

A small sample of bones removed for analysis were quickly identified as the remains of 17 human beings. They dated from the 6th-5th century BC, and were mostly from adult males; however, they also included the remains from two women and a child aged about 10. Several other adult skeletons were observed in positions suggesting that they had died while trying to climb out of the crevasse, suggesting that at least some of the victims had been alive when they were thrown into it.

The Cinadon conspiracy had highlighted the major flaw in the Spartan system: its almost pathological elitism.
Just made me think of it, that's all.
13 posted on 10/16/2007 9:42:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, October 16, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I can see why...and I’ll take bets on it their bones weren’t fossilized either...


14 posted on 10/16/2007 9:49:19 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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