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Beef production is bad for the planet(Your beef is next on the liberal hit list)
Daily Globe ^ | June 23,2008 | Dean Koch

Posted on 06/23/2008 11:05:09 AM PDT by aft_lizard

Dodge City —

Earlier this month, more than a hundred thousand South Koreans demonstrated against newly elected president Lee Myung-bak as his entire cabinet offered to resign. At the root of this massive protest was not a declaration of war against North Korea, a boycott of the Chinese summer Olympics, or even escalating oil prices. It was a treaty allowing U.S. beef imports. Beef production accounts for more greenhouse gas emissions than automobiles. Its insatiable demand for feed grains has raised world food prices to levels beyond the reach of the world’s hungry and the relief agencies that support them. Creation of beef pastures is the key cause of worldwide deforestation, including the destruction of the Amazon rainforest. A beef-based diet requires more than 20 times as much land and water as a plant-based diet with equivalent amounts of calories and protein. Nutritionally, beef offers protein, iron, and some B vitamins, but no fiber, carbohydrates, nor most vitamins and minerals. On the other hand, it is replete with saturated fat, cholesterol, pesticides, and pathogens, including occasionally, the prions of “mad cow” disease. We should have a hundred thousand demonstrators marching on Washington to protest taxpayer subsidies to the U.S. beef industry. In the meantime, each one of us can demonstrate our own outrage with beef production on our next trip to the supermarket by selecting from the rich variety of soy-and-plant-based meat alternatives in the frozen foods and produce sections.

Dean Koch Dodge City


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food
KEYWORDS: environment; food; foodsupply; globalwarming; itswhatsfordinner; liberallunacy; protests
I don't know if this letter to the editor is a joke or sarcasm or what but it stuck out to me on a number of things.
1 posted on 06/23/2008 11:05:10 AM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: aft_lizard

Beef? Great, now I’m starving.


2 posted on 06/23/2008 11:08:38 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (This is Sammy Israel III filling in for DB Cooper who will be returning next week,)
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To: aft_lizard

I prefer Soylent Green - “it’s peeeeeeeeople!”


3 posted on 06/23/2008 11:08:51 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: aft_lizard

“Beef...it’s what’s for dinner”!


4 posted on 06/23/2008 11:09:48 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: aft_lizard

Hell, I’m pure evil then..

Big ol briquette grill, starter fluid... giant slabs of BEEF cooking away...

MMMMMMMMM


5 posted on 06/23/2008 11:12:57 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: aft_lizard

They’ll have to pry my cheeseburger, ribeye, T bone, porterhouse, ribs, flank steak and glass of cabernet from my cold, dead, greasy fingers.


6 posted on 06/23/2008 11:13:16 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: aft_lizard
Unsaid in these rants is the fact that there are numerous people around the world who are "more carnivorous" than others and whose very lives depend on a regular supply of meat.

For them meat is not a luxury. For many of them whole grain diets are poisonous.

If more land is required to raise herd animals to feed such people then the sugar and starch eaters should be made to make way.

7 posted on 06/23/2008 11:18:03 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: aft_lizard

I’ve heard that sacred cows make the best hamburgers.


8 posted on 06/23/2008 11:21:41 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: aft_lizard

Beef has been on the leftist hitlist for awhile. They complain about methane and hormone suppliments. This is nothing new.


9 posted on 06/23/2008 11:22:00 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: aft_lizard

Beef was also directly responsible for WWI and WWII as well as allowing slavery to exist in America for several hundred years. It has caused billions and billions of deaths over the breadth of humanity and now it is changing global weather patterns. It must be stopped in our lifetime. How can we as human beings continue to allow cows to continue to expel gas unabated. Do we not care for our children? Something must be done! Aaaaaagh!


10 posted on 06/23/2008 11:23:53 AM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: aft_lizard

What is ignored is that prior to the US expanding westward, a herd estimated at upwards of 40 million bison roamed the central Great Plains. Given the weight of these large animals (a male bison can weigh over 2,500 pounds), when compared to the weight of cattle and the number of cattle, the Great Plains today are supporting just as much mass of animal meat as it historically sustained.

Given these facts, it is just silly to assert that cattle are bad for the planet.


11 posted on 06/23/2008 11:24:31 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

those hormone supplements are no joke. no other first world country allows farmers to drug their animals with steroids that produce hormonal imbalances in people


12 posted on 06/23/2008 11:27:21 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: aft_lizard
...Each one of us can demonstrate our own outrage with beef production on our next trip to the supermarket...

I can do my part by switching to pork.

13 posted on 06/23/2008 11:30:15 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Natchez Hawk
T-Bones on the grill and baked potatoes here tonight! C’mon over Natch! Bring the beer...
14 posted on 06/23/2008 11:43:35 AM PDT by poobear (“…individual salvation depends on collective salvation." Barack Hussein Obama Wesleyan University)
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To: aft_lizard

I may not agree with eating red meat, but I will defend to the death your right to clog your arteries and get heart disease. :-)


15 posted on 06/23/2008 11:45:36 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: aft_lizard
In the meantime, each one of us can demonstrate our own outrage with beef production on our next trip to the supermarket by selecting from the rich variety of soy-and-plant-based meat alternatives in the frozen foods and produce sections.

Eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! On second thought, pass the burgers, already!

16 posted on 06/23/2008 11:47:14 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: TexGuy
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!
17 posted on 06/23/2008 11:50:31 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: aft_lizard

I think they were protesting US beef because of mad cow disease and the fact that the US has the most lax testing and oversight. It has nothing to do with the environment or green house gases, etc.


18 posted on 06/23/2008 11:50:41 AM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: poobear

Done!


19 posted on 06/23/2008 11:54:58 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (This is Sammy Israel III filling in for DB Cooper who will be returning next week,)
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To: theBuckwheat

You’re exactly correct.

There’s one additional factor in beef vs. cattle: bison are mighty hard on the range. Bison like to create these “dust wallows” - where they tear up a 10’ diameter hold in the sod/grass/cover and they use this to roll around in the dust to cover themselves with dust to discourage ticks, mites, fleas, etc on their hides.

Cattle don’t tend to do this. Cattle rub themselves on everything that stands up off the ground (fenceposts, trees, parked cars, barbed wire, you name it), but bison are in a whole new league when it comes to “gotta scratch that itch” behavior.


20 posted on 06/23/2008 12:04:27 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: aft_lizard
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21 posted on 06/23/2008 12:10:10 PM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: aft_lizard

Just put a tax on it.
That should fix it.

(roll eyes)


22 posted on 06/23/2008 12:15:48 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: Natchez Hawk

;D!


23 posted on 06/23/2008 12:54:32 PM PDT by poobear (“…individual salvation depends on collective salvation." Barack Hussein Obama Wesleyan University)
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To: aft_lizard

I wonder if the guy who wrote this, if serious, is really in Dodge City, or has even ever been to Dodge City?? It’s not the place I’d pick to complain about beef.

I also wonder if someone who complains about how much land it takes to raise cattle has ever spent any time in areas where lots of cattle are raised. Some, though of course not all, ranch land really isn’t suitable for much of anything else.

I think I’ll have a steak for supper tonight.


24 posted on 06/23/2008 1:40:44 PM PDT by susannah59
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To: aft_lizard; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; IrishCatholic; Normandy; Delacon; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

25 posted on 06/23/2008 2:37:18 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: susannah59

Dean Koch does live in Dodge if I remember correctly, and that is one of those things that got me on that. Beef is Dodge City’s first and prime business above all, take beef away you not only kill Dodge City but also most of Southwestern Kansas the Oklahoma Panhandle and the Texas Panhandle. Anyways its kind of weird reading a Kansan with the last name Koch sound like a raving loony leftist as most of them I have known are pretty conservative people, maybe he was kicked out of the family.


26 posted on 06/23/2008 3:11:44 PM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually its eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: NVDave
10’ diameter??

I don't know that I have ever seen one under 30' and some up to several hundred feet in diameter. In farm ground they still hold water after a rain and having been farmed over for 50 plus years.

27 posted on 06/23/2008 7:25:54 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Praying for Reign)
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To: Dust in the Wind

Admittedly, the ones I’ve seen were on relatively small pastures.

Costs a lot of money to try to fence in a large area to contain bison.

Any way we look at it, bison are hard on the neighborhood. Doesn’t mean that they’re not tasty, just means that they’re not exactly a meek “environmentally friendly” animal.

However, I would love to see a herd of bison big enough that we could try to induce a bunch of environmentalists to try to milk some bison females. That, I would pay to watch. ;-)


28 posted on 06/23/2008 7:47:51 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
I was referring to the remnants from the days of the free roaming herds. The smaller wallows I've seen are in western Kansas and the largest I have seen are southwest of Canyon TX. And I have not been everywhere ;^)

I love a Q'd primal but unless tallow is added the burgers are kinda dry.

"That, I would pay to watch. ;-)"

Want to get up a game of "Slap the Bull"?? hahaha

29 posted on 06/23/2008 8:03:12 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Praying for Reign)
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To: MD_Willington_1976
Hell, I’m pure evil then.. Big ol briquette grill, starter fluid... giant slabs of BEEF cooking away...

Every time you grill a steak, God kills a tree in the Amazon forest. Or something.

I swear, vegetarians are stupider, most stupidest, simply because they don't eat enough beef.

A human can survive infinitely on beef alone. Protiens and fats. It's all a body needs. But a body cannot survive without these two things. What is the most unimportant part of our diet? Vegetables. Vegetarians try to forgo the most important dietary ingredients, with detrimental effect, mostly detrimental.

30 posted on 06/23/2008 8:22:49 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: aft_lizard

Me going without beef is bad for this planet!


31 posted on 06/23/2008 8:43:49 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: ChurtleDawg
Interesting, there is more hormone activity in one human birth control pill (same hormone) than one ton of beef. Actually, the estrogenic activity is higher in one head of cabbage than an entire beef carcass. Enjoy you cole slaw!
32 posted on 06/24/2008 4:30:01 AM PDT by ambia (hormone supplememnts-a red herring)
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To: ambia

yes, but rBGH (bovine growth hormone) is not a good hormone for humans to be consuming. Kids are entering puberty earlier, for example, than in times past partly because of the vast amount of hormones in meat and milk.

Plus, it causes sickness in the cows because of over production of milk, which requires large doses of antibiotics, which also find their way into meat and milk


33 posted on 06/24/2008 8:10:26 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: ambia

did you sign up just to defend hormone supplements?

by the way, rGBH is not estrogen.
it is bovine growth hormone, produced in the pituary glands of cattle, but given in large dosages like anabolic steroids.

and if these supplements were so safe, why are they banned in Canada, Japan, Australia and the European Union?


34 posted on 06/24/2008 8:24:53 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: Big Giant Head

That explains my wife’s vegetarian friend.. LOL

She don’t eat meat but she sure likes the bone!


35 posted on 06/24/2008 10:27:23 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

The vegans have been having meatings about this.


36 posted on 06/25/2008 11:58:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: aft_lizard

Folks, it’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye...

or, in this case, until these control freak bastards get into positions of power where they can use the legal use of deadly force (gov’t) to impose their will on the rest of us.

Make no mistake, they

INTEND TO CONTROL WHAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO EAT.


37 posted on 06/25/2008 12:04:25 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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