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Open Letter from Tom Chittum, author Civil War II
Free State Wyoming Forum ^ | Sept 2008 | Thomas Chittum

Posted on 09/10/2008 10:11:01 AM PDT by Jack Black

An Open Letter to Everybody Who Read My Book, Civil War Two

By Thomas Chittum ©copyright 2008

When I wrote Civil War Two back in 1995 I had just returned from Croatia where I had fought in their civil war that resulted in the partition of the former Yugoslavia along ethnic lines. My book focused on demographic changes that I believed were driving this nation towards a similar breakup along ethnic lines.

When I wrote my book I had never even heard of the Bilderberg Group or the Pilgrims Society or the Trilateral Commission or the Council on Foreign Relations or the Council for National Policy or Skull and Bones. Then along came the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. It took me about three months of research to realize that the invasion of Afghanistan had been planned for years before 911, and that Osama bin Subcontractor was an invention of the London Banking Cartel. The U.S. government had stockpiled invasion supplies and encircled Afghanistan with military bases for years prior to 2001. Why, I wondered, had the US government decided on a land war in the heart of Asia which ran against all military logic and even common sense.

(Excerpt) Read more at fundamentalsoffreedom.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Conspiracy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: 911truthers; chittum; clueless; conspiracy; cwii; kooks; tinfoil
I found Civil War II a very interesting book, as did others on the CWII ping list. The link above provides an answer to a question that went around via email to CWII ping listees recently: what is Chittum up to lately?

Sadly he seems to have become a conspiracy theorist. While I am not so naive as to think there are no conspiracies in the world, neither am I so paranoid as to think that there is a grand unified conspiracy running everything.

I've always found this idea somewhat lunatic. Are we to believe that Iraq is really working for the Queen of England? McCain and Obama serve the same masters? Everything we percieve as conflict is theatre?

Sorry, I just can't make that jump. Chittum has, and has some explanation of why in the open letter linked above.

As I can't think of anything particularly newsworthy about this I posted it to "chat". Which is probably where conspiracy theory belongs.

1 posted on 09/10/2008 10:11:12 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; Jack Black; ...

CWII list ping.


2 posted on 09/10/2008 10:15:03 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
Yes, Chittum is completely out of his gourd.

Moreover, everyone from Harry Reid to Howard Wolfson to Tom Chittum to the writers of The Princess Bride loves to spout the line about a "land war in Asia" as if it were some self-evident truth or incontrovertible dictum.

Most people don't even know who said it. And if they did, they wouldn't be able to tell you anything about the author.

When someone uses that line as if it were an argument, you know you're dealing with a clown.

3 posted on 09/10/2008 10:16:39 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

I ran across an anecdote a few years back from a fellow who said “They told me that if I voted for Goldwater, we’d end up in a land war in Asia. I voted for Goldwater, and, sure enough, we ended up in a land war in Asia.”


4 posted on 09/10/2008 10:29:52 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jack Black

There isn’t going to be any civil war in this country. If anything, there is just going to be a general degradation of the quality of life as people gradually get used to rampant crime and government corruption.


5 posted on 09/10/2008 10:31:39 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ajnin

...get used to MORE crime and MORE government corruption. That’s better


6 posted on 09/10/2008 10:33:26 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ajnin

...get used to MORE crime and MORE government corruption. That’s better


7 posted on 09/10/2008 10:34:07 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Jack Black

thanks Jack...please keep me on the CWII list....sorry Chittum seems to be out in left field these days....none the less, I still think that “Civil War Two” was an eye opener....and BTW I’ve noticed that his predictions about the growth of urban street gangs were right....at least in our area that’s been the case.


8 posted on 09/10/2008 10:51:40 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: wideawake

“Most people don’t even know who said it.”....a lot of people have said it, but I expect MacArthur said it first.


9 posted on 09/10/2008 11:00:14 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: wideawake

All the conspiracy nuts circa 1995 need to account for all those black UN helicopters before they come up with new fantasies.


10 posted on 09/10/2008 11:01:46 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth amendments?)
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To: Jack Black
Are we to believe that Iraq is really working for the Queen of England?

Probably not. But for the length of time that England had interests in the area, I'd be very surprised if they hadn't found Iraqi agents or surrogates to advance Britain's interests. Saddam no doubt kept that sort of mischief to a minimum, but now the door may have opened wider for them.

McCain and Obama serve the same masters? Everything we percieve as conflict is theatre?

Not everything, but certainly much of it. Remember how McCain was the darling of the media until he happened to be pitted against their annointed preferred candidate- why McCain was a Republican with whom they could get along. And his original sponsor in Arizona politics was the late kingmaker Kemper Marley, said to have been America's first billionaire, probably an exaggeration, though he was probably Arizona's first one.

And most certainly, there are globalists salivating at the mouth awaiting the apointment of their fellows to high administration positions whether McCain or Obama wins. Remember that when the sleight-of-hand tricksters want to pull off something sneaky, they do so while a distraction has your attention diverted elsewhere.

11 posted on 09/10/2008 11:04:38 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: STONEWALLS

Good guess - but it was actually Monty.


12 posted on 09/10/2008 11:09:51 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Natchez Hawk
All the conspiracy nuts circa 1995 need to account for all those black UN helicopters before they come up with new fantasies.

They look more like dark CARC *Brunswick Green* to me, though in sunlight they do appear to be black from a distance or while moving. Of course the ones being used in the sandbox in Iraq and Afghanistan are painted sand tan/yellow.


13 posted on 09/10/2008 11:13:49 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: wideawake
Good guess - but it was actually Monty.

We can only wonder what response George S. Patton might have given in retort.

14 posted on 09/10/2008 11:15:50 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

That’s a mean looking little booger.


15 posted on 09/10/2008 11:17:33 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (We stand with you, Port Lavaca/ Corpus Christi)
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To: Natchez Hawk
That’s a mean looking little booger.

The ones with the little eyeball underneath are even nastier.

Then there's the ones that fly with nobody aboard....


16 posted on 09/10/2008 11:25:41 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Jack Black

whats with the read...??...go to the link and have to join another site to finish it....sheesh.....lol...


17 posted on 09/10/2008 12:52:30 PM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Jack Black

whats with the read...??...go to the link and have to join another site to finish it....sheesh.....lol...


18 posted on 09/10/2008 12:52:57 PM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Jack Black

“The U.S. government had stockpiled invasion supplies and encircled Afghanistan with military bases for years prior to 2001.”

Nutjob


19 posted on 09/10/2008 1:20:42 PM PDT by yazoo
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To: Jack Black
I think he is also dishonest.

I find it hard to believe that he had never heard of the Trilateral Commission, and especially the CFR. They both have been widely publicized for over thirty years.

I have no time for dishonest loony toons.

20 posted on 09/10/2008 1:22:01 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: tatsinfla

Sorry. I didn’t realize that it would require a registration to read it. My apologies. (I have the cookie for that one already).


21 posted on 09/10/2008 1:33:42 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: happygrl; Jack Black

Yep, no way did he “just” hear about the CFR etc.


22 posted on 09/10/2008 1:42:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Jack Black

not a problem....i was getting into it from the excerpt and then bam....lol....


23 posted on 09/11/2008 5:20:38 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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An Open Letter to Everybody Who Read My Book, Civil War Two

By Thomas Chittum ©copyright 2008

When I wrote Civil War Two back in 1995 I had just returned from Croatia where I had fought in their civil war that resulted in the partition of the former Yugoslavia along ethnic lines. My book focused on demographic changes that I believed were driving this nation towards a similar breakup along ethnic lines.

When I wrote my book I had never even heard of the Bilderberg Group or the Pilgrims Society or the Trilateral Commission or the Council on Foreign Relations or the Council for National Policy or Skull and Bones. Then along came the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. It took me about three months of research to realize that the invasion of Afghanistan had been planned for years before 911, and that Osama bin Subcontractor was an invention of the London Banking Cartel. The U.S. government had stockpiled invasion supplies and encircled Afghanistan with military bases for years prior to 2001. Why, I wondered, had the US government decided on a land war in the heart of Asia which ran against all military logic and even common sense.

I recalled the assassination of President Kennedy. Like a lot of Americans, I soon became convinced that the Warren Commission was a massive cover-up. What I couldn’t understand was why the entire American establishment had allowed this obvious cover-up to stand unchallenged. I just couldn’t take the next mental leap and realize that the cover-up went unchallenged because the assassination was planned and carried out by the upper levels of our political establishment itself.

I wasn’t similarly deceived by the terrorist attacks of 2001. I began reading books by non-establishment historians. I think the first non-establishment book I read was the Conspirators Hierarchy by John Coleman. It’s an excellent book and a good place to start if you want to understand what people are really running Western Civilization. Today, I understand that Western Civilization is really run from London and has been for centuries.

Now allow me to go back and review my experiences after the publication of my book Civil War. The book sold about 20,000 copies and caused something of a sensation, especially in right-wing circles. I was invited to speak on TV and radio programs. I was invited to speak at meetings of political groups, most of which were right-wing extremists. I accepted every invitation to speak no matter what the political position of the group. I did a radio interview with Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. I also accepted an invitation to be interviewed by a black guy who had a radio program in Louisiana. I told them all that I my appearance on their radio program or political meeting did not constitute any endorsement of their beliefs. I told an official of the National Alliance that I would accept an invitation to address a “roomful of rabbis” if they wanted to hear me.

My book was meant to be a unemotional technical work. It was written from a military perspective and was intentionally devoid of any attempt to change anyone’s mind about political or racial beliefs. I do have my own political baggage, but I basically left it out of my book, except to briefly mention that I did not favor the partition of America, but hoped that the people of America would choose to stay united, or at least, failing that, agree to a peaceful partition.

I will now briefly outline my political beliefs. My instincts are basically libertarian. I want to emphasize that I do not believe, and never have believed, that any race is superior to another. That’s why I never joined any racially oriented right-wing group. That’s also why I also could never be a so-called liberal because of their lame attempts to disguise their equally misdirected racism with euphemisms such as “affirmative action.”

Like most people I would like everyone to agree with my views on every issue under the sun, and I am disappointed when they do not. However, I have long understood that most people arrive at their political views only because they fulfill their own emotional cravings and self interest. The arguments they advance to justify their beliefs are nothing more than rationalizations. Worse yet, I came to realize that even people of goodwill arrive at entirely different views that preclude compromise.

This deplorable truth about human nature is one of the primary causes of the instability of multi-ethic empires no matter what their formal political structure, be it a dictatorship, a monarchy or a republic. This circumstance also accounts for the tendency, over the long haul, for the maps of nations to be drawn along lines that reflect racial, linguistic, and religious differences. Multiethnic empires like America are inherently unstable even under optimum economic circumstances.

What my book did not take into account was the nature of the New World Order. I did briefly mention the New World Order in my book and condemn it. At the time, I did not have a clear picture of the so-called New World Order. I though it was nothing more than a frame of mind, so to speak, such as being a conservative or a liberal. I did not realize that it was an actual entity composed of identifiable organizations that acted in concert to achieve a specific way of re-ordering the entire globe. As I mentioned earlier, I had never heard of the Bilderbergers or the Pilgrims Society. I had constructed by world view solely from establishment sanctioned books. Now I know better.

To all secessionists, I have this to say. There is no point in checking out of the sinking American empire unless your new nation will be free of control by the New World Order. The only sane approach is to work to first wrest control of America from the New World Order organizations mentioned earlier. Any new nation carved out of the present American empire will be surrounded by hostile nations still under control of the New World Order, and will have no real chance of economic success or even physical survival.

To overt racists like members of the KKK or the National Alliance, I have this to say. Please just sober up and change your minds concerning race and then resign from any and all overtly racist organizations. You are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. The New World Order loves overtly racist organizations. The NWO uses them to frighten the general population into seeking their protection. You are assisting their divide and rule strategy and it doesn’t cost them a dime.

To liberals I have this to say. Stop acquiescing to racism by promoting the stealth racism of affirmative action. Get a brain and realize that you are promoting racism. You are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. The New World Order loves racist affirmative action. The NWO uses stealth racism to stampede conservatives into seeking their protection. You are assisting their divide and rule strategy and it doesn’t cost them a dime.

To everyone who read my book, I have this to say. Civil War Two will likely occur sooner than I had originally predicted in my book. America and the entire world is now teetering on the edge of total economic collapse. If this collapse does in fact occur, the New World Order will instigate a horrific civil war here to distract the population from their responsibility for this calamity by giving the population boogie men to blame in the form of ethnic and regional secessionists. This war will be so horrific that I doubt that more than 10 percent of the population will survive. Mexico and Canada will likewise sucked into this vortex of starvation, cannibalism and ethnic cleansing. The entire North American continent will be depopulated. There will be no new nations arising out of this collapse as I predicted in my book, because there will essentially be no people left to populate any new nations. The whole of North America will be a wasteland.

My next column will probably focus on specific changes that I think America must put into effect to save itself from utter disaster. I don’t think for a second that any of these changes will be made, and I will list them only to highlight the inevitability of the coming disaster. Meanwhile, I suggest you have a good a time as you can. That’s what Romans facing disaster did, and then they jumped into a warm bath and cut their wrists.

-— Thomas Chittum ©copyright 2008


24 posted on 09/12/2008 8:33:16 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: tatsinfla; Fishrrman

See #24.


25 posted on 09/12/2008 8:34:25 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
This war will be so horrific that I doubt that more than 10 percent of the population will survive. Mexico and Canada will likewise sucked into this vortex of starvation, cannibalism and ethnic cleansing. The entire North American continent will be depopulated. There will be no new nations arising out of this collapse as I predicted in my book, because there will essentially be no people left to populate any new nations. The whole of North America will be a wasteland.

Only if nuclear weapons are used. Hell the old Cold War projections of a full scale war against the Soviets would leave more survivors than 10%.

26 posted on 09/16/2008 2:38:53 PM PDT by FierceDraka (I'm not against the government. The government is against ME.)
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To: STONEWALLS

“.....I expect MacArthur said it first.”
I expect you to be correct!


27 posted on 05/17/2009 5:01:51 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Jack Black

Bookmark


28 posted on 05/18/2009 7:59:34 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: happygrl

Not really. I met Tom after he wrote his article for SOF in 1993 about the war in Bosnia. He was pretty much an old soldier who had missed action and went to fight. He was not at all political and only after the CW2 book can out did he start to even seem political. He is many things but not a liar.

I am sure he is telling the truth about learing about all those groups.

I myself could not tell you all the New World Order non-sense nor can I explain most of what a lot of people seem to take as the truth on those matters.

Tom is crazy, but not a liar.

Brad


29 posted on 07/05/2009 9:57:22 AM PDT by Brad Owens
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