Posted on 11/27/2008 5:53:01 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
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Happy Thanksgiving Homer. So much interesting stuff in both these. Thanks!!
Unfortunately, it wasn’t the final phase.
Without WWII, German Jews would probably have been expelled rather than murdered. (Most of them, anyway.)
Once the War started, that wasn’t really an option, especially since many millions of additional Jews came under their control. There wasn’t really anyplace at the time that would have taken 10M+ Jews.
So they went with Plan B.
Thanks for the reminder. It is abundantly clear that today’s Liberal Jews (morons) have forgotten their history. I say that as a Jew myself who finds today’s Obama-loving Jews embarrassing as well as reprehensible. They’ve sold Israel out as well as their children and grandchildren’s futures. The slogan “Never Again” has been totally forgotten. IMO, Liberal Jews have destined the world to another Holocaust because of their blindness.
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I think Liberal Jews have “Israeli Derangement Syndrome”...kind of like the Bush Derangement syndrome...That’s the only way their behavior makes sense.
Thanks for the reminder. It is abundantly clear that today’s Liberal Jews (morons) have forgotten their history. I say that as a Jew myself who finds today’s Obama-loving Jews embarrassing as well as reprehensible. They’ve sold Israel out as well as their children and grandchildren’s futures. The slogan “Never Again” has been totally forgotten. IMO, Liberal Jews have destined the world to another Holocaust because of their blindness.
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They dishonor the millions of their brothers and sisters that were murdered during the Holocaust. One would expect the “supposedly” educated Jews to remember their history. Reprehensibly, they have not; obviously, they suffer amnesia coupled with a cult-like mentality to believe DemoRAT lies despite the obvious proof of generations of RAT deception.
“Unfortunately, it wasn’t the final phase.
Without WWII, German Jews would probably have been expelled rather than murdered. (Most of them, anyway.)
Once the War started, that wasn’t really an option, especially since many millions of additional Jews came under their control. There wasn’t really anyplace at the time that would have taken 10M+ Jews.
So they went with Plan B.”
LOL! It’s nice to know that the silly revisionist notions of “historians” like David Irving and the crowd of kooks at the even sillier “Institute for Historial Review” are still alive and well!
Jewish extermination was always the intention of the Nazis, even before the war began. That’s clearly stated by many academics in the universities at the time the National Socialists took power. The notion that “they tried to expel the Jews but it didn’t work out so they were left with no other alternative but to murder them” is BS straight out of the revisionist playbook.
Oh, and just a small detail: war didn’t simply “start”; Germany started it. Nazi Germany invaded Poland on 9/1/39. A few weeks later, Soviet Russia invaded Poland, all under a “secret protocol” agreed to by Hitler and Stalin.
Some of this makes no sense, but if you view liberalism as a disease....
Israeli Derangement Syndrom is only a recent phenomenon among Jews. A generation ago, even far-left-wing Jews--as well as many, if not most liberal Gentiles--staunchly backed Israel. They did so even as they were protesting the war in Vietnam.
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Not revisionist history.
Just the facts. Also no excuse for their actions.
Mass murder was part of his plan from the beginning. That is, of course, why he waited till December 12, 1941 to order the extermination.
http://www.adolfhitler.dk/new_page_8.htm
Note the date. He declared war on the US the day before. He was now in a total war against most of the world. Deportation was no longer an option.
I believe this theory has been in good standing for a long time. It’s not revisionist. The idea that Hitler intended from the beginning to kill every Jew requires believing he was willing to wait 8 years to put his dominant obsession into full effect. This is not logical.
Please note I’m no fan of Hitler, and I don’t believe he had any qualms at all about mass murder. But some of the things claimed about him just aren’t true.
For instance, he didn’t really want to conquer the entire world. He wanted Poland and western Russia, probably to the Urals. Had the western Allies been willing to give him this, he would have been glad to let them be. At least in the short run.
Even after his conquest of western Europe, he was anxious to reach a peace with Britain. There is some evidence that this is why the Brits were allowed to escape at Dunkirk.
The British Empire would rule the colored races overseas, and Germany would keep them down in Europe. Aryans of the world unite!
BTW, you are right that Germany started the war, in alliance with USSR, when he invaded Poland. However, had the western Allies allowed him to take Poland, the invasion would not have precipitated World War. Probably would have happened sometime, but not then.
Not that I think the Allies were wrong to fight back. They were just much too late deciding to do so.
Similarly, there would have been no Gulf War had we allowed Saddam to keep Kuwait. And no Pearl Harbor had we not resisted Japanese aggression in the Pacific and SE Asia.
Thanks! Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving
Of course it is "logical." Hitler believed he needed the cover of war, and the absolute powers which came with war, to protect the secrecy of his extermination plans.
Hitler certainly DID NOT FIRST ORDER exterminations on December 12, 1941 -- that is pure neo-Nazi propaganda. He began exterminations with the invasion of Poland in 1939, though at that time did not uniquely target Jews. He further ordered, long before the invasion of Soviet Russia in June 1941, that it would be a "war of destruction," targeting especially Communists and Jews.
By December 12, 1941 the Nazis has ALREADY murdered a million, and were beginning to realize that shootings were a waste of good ammunition, and also detrimental to their troops' morale. So they were looking for, and experimenting to find a "better way," a more secret, almost invisible way to dispose of millions more.
But, has NO ONE here noticed the most astonishing part of this 1938 news report?!
"But for 700,000 Jews of Great Germany, it definitely means emigration as penniless refugees or EXTERMINATION WITH "FIRE AND SWORD." They themselves are the FIRST to realize this, with all the TERROR such realization entails..."
"...But hope of even that much is gone, because frank statements IN THE NAZI PRESS, unless the democracies and Jews in the outside world are willing to finance the emigration of German Jews, they will be put into ghettos and deprived of all normal livelihood, and the remaining "rich Jews" will be kept to support the poor Jews until all the Jewish capital has been eaten up, or some desperate Jews have taken to crime, when according to the Schwartz Korps, German Jews will be exterminated by "FIRE AND SWORD."
Now, what's so astonishing is that FOR YEARS I've read that NO ONE KNEW the Holocaust was coming. And yet HERE IT IS, spelled out in so many words, IN 1938!!
By the way, your "theory" is junk -- borderline neo-Nazi, or, in plain language: bull crap. You need to read some history books before spouting nonsense.
Thank you for making this point. This was another case where I was so focused in getting the material ready for posting that the most important part of the article went right by me.
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