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Where in the world is Barack Obama’s birth certificate? (Part 2)
Orange County Conservative Examiner ^ | July 25, 2009 | Gregory Dail

Posted on 07/26/2009 5:07:16 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american

Researching the Obama birth certificate conspiracy has yielded many theories and wild speculations. Despite the likelihood that most of them are without merit, the one haunting theme i: what is Obama hiding? The forged birth certificate that appeared on Obama’s campaign site has spawned new curiosities, theories and demands to know where in the world is Barack Obama’s birth certificate. Is it in Kenya, Hawaii, Chicago, and Indonesia?

We believe the Certification of Live Birth is authentic, but that is not that part where it gets tricky with parsing of words and comparing apples to oranges. The document provided by the Obama campaign to Factcheck.org, which Obama has ties to, has nagging issues. First of all, the document presented is technically inferior, and people want to see the vault or long form. See an example of a real long form Certificate of Live Birth. Its shades of Bill Clinton and what the definition of what “is” is and this is where the unhinged pundits of Obama can’t seem to distinguish the difference. What Americans want to see is the above and they were given a document that does not have enough information and simply conveys that a Certificate of Live Birth exists. Below is a side-by-side image of what people are asking for and what they got. Fact: Obama released a Certification of Live Birth but failed to provide the requested Certificate of Live Birth. This political maneuver is known as the Dodd-Dodge.

The Kindergarten Conspiracy is simply that Obama's Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the State of Hawaii Department of Education. See the above link to where local paper reports the lost records. The important feature of this conspiracy is that Kindergarten records would have contained the following: 1. Obama's REAL Birth Certificate. 2. An application with the following: • His Legal name. • Parents or Legal Guardians’ names. • Date of Birth • Place of Birth • Vaccination Records

Conspiracy theorists contend that the loss of records is important for two additional reasons. The Department of Education does not "lose" the records of one particular student. Breeding the claim, who paid whom what sum to make this record disappear? Finally the loss prevents the release of shamefully low test scores, embarrassing Equal Opportunity advancements, and trails of fraudulent funding to hide that could possibly "excuse" the quashing of public school Kindergarten entry records. Adding to the fuel is the fact that for the rest of his life he attended very expensive private schools and has had his records legally sealed to deny the public his true life story.

School in JakartaThe Kindergarten twins (Nordyke) conspiracy spun off from the “lost” kindergarten records. The question is why the Nordyke twin’s, who were born a few hours after Obama, announcement was missing from the newspaper. The theory is that they were removed so Obama’s could be inserted. A possible explanation is that since the father was a physician of some note the girls’ birth announcement was in the announced in a separate article. The mother of twin’s recalls nothing of significance while she was in the hospital and can neither confirm or deny Obama and his mother were there.

The Jakarta plot begins with Obama’s stepfather (Lolo Soetero) taking the family to Jakarta, Indonesia and enrolled him in a Catholic school (Fransiskus Assisi) as Barry Soetoro as seen on the only document that exists in the public from any of Obama’s schools. It was not released by Obama but obtained by an investigative reporter.

This document bred a whole new series of heories that Obama was adopted by Soetero and Obama became a citizen on Indonesia. Under Indonesian law, Obama could not hold dual citizenship. But U.S. law would still recognize Obama as an American citizen. This led to theory that Obama traveled to Pakistan in college under an Indonesia passport. In the early 1980’s, it was very difficult to enter Pakistan under a U.S. passport.

The Barry Soetero issue exploded into theories that Obama’s real name was Barry Soetero and he attended U.S. colleges under that name and as an Indonesian national. The fact that all of Obama’s school records are sealed flamed the conspiracy fire. It was not clear whether Soetoro adopted Obama, either in Hawaii or in Indonesia, but there is strong circumstantial evidence that he did as far as Indonesian law was concerned. The facts are that in Indonesia, which was under tight rule in 1967, Obama clearly took on the last name of his stepfather in school registration documents. All Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards, or Karty Tanda Pendudaks, which needed to bear the student's legal name, which should be matched in public school registration filings. According to Indonesian legal experts, it was difficult to enroll non-Indonesian citizens in public schooling.

It was the scrutiny of Obama’s Indonesia chapter that fueled the fires that Obama was a Muslim, received Muslim teachings in school and attended a Mosque regularly with Lolo Soetero. However, it was the Pakistan trip revelation that raised a few eyebrows. Obama last April disclosed he traveled as a college student to Pakistan in 1981. "I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college – I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee," Obama reportedly stated at a fundraising event. Obama had not previously disclosed any trip to Pakistan, either in his books or in a multitude of policy talks regarding Pakistan.

Obama’s disclosure prompted ABC News to contact the presidential candidate's campaign, which confirmed that in 1981, the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University, Barack visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. Obama then went on to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from that country, the campaign said. Further, it was disclosed that Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, said the campaign, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.

Pakistan in 1981 was under military rule. It was difficult for U.S. citizens to travel to the country without assistance. It would have been easier for someone to enter Pakistan on an Indonesian passport. If Obama indeed possessed Indonesian citizenship as a child, it is unlikely he retains such citizenship. This has never been disclosed or discussed by the Obama campaign. This posed the question about Obama's registration in Indonesia under the name "Barry Soetoro" also raises questions as to whether he adopted that name in the U.S. at any time. According to Illinois state filings, when Obama registered as an attorney in 1991, under the name Barack Obama, he attested to never using any other names or aliases.

Most of the conspiracies may seem petty and insignificant, but it does indicate that Obama has not been transparent or honest with the American people or the fact he could easily put this to rest but elects not to. Remember, this is the man that said he attended a church for twenty years and never listened to a sermon.

In Part 3, we’ll discuss the Sarah Obama interview and Mombasa hospital who claims to have medical records on Obama and his mother but have been classified by the state. Then there is the Michelle Obama interview with API, and API attempting to sell to Fox News the exclusive recordings and copies Obama’s birth documents.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; article2section1; barackobama; barrysoetoro; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; california; certifigate; citizenship; cnn; constitution; corruption; coverup; democratscandals; doublestandard; eligibility; forgery; fraud; hawaii; indonesia; ineligible; kenya; keyes; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamatruthfile; occidentalcollege; orly; orlytaitz; pakistan; passport; passports; perjury; taitz; visa
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To: Texas Fossil

He is a communist. It is self evident.


41 posted on 07/26/2009 5:46:09 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: All

Who is Barrack Obama??

Original birth certificate — Not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Besuki School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released and under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None


42 posted on 07/26/2009 5:46:30 AM PDT by mouse1
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To: real_patriotic_american

Yes, identity theft is a major crime, but I have seen no other source (other than Dr. Orly Taitz’ lawsuits) mentioning the bogus SSNs. And those lawsuits have been thrown out for the time being. Is there anything to it?


43 posted on 07/26/2009 5:46:38 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: kabar

Ok, thanks.


44 posted on 07/26/2009 5:47:05 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Yes, the article itself seems like it was written by a Democrat; very bad spelling, punctuation, cuts-and-pastes clumsily executed to create malaprops, dual entendrés and confused logic, and (obviously) either no proof-reading, or it was proof-read by a functionally illiterate imbecile.

Very possibly a Democrat plant, and rather unlikely to have been done by a conservative columnist.

:-/

45 posted on 07/26/2009 5:47:37 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people..." John Adams)
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To: joshhiggins

Yes, its always the cover up.
Or, endless Grand Jury questions to manufacture a perjury trap


46 posted on 07/26/2009 5:48:41 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: afraidfortherepublic
From a Joseph Farrah article in WorldNetDaily.

Next?

;-/

47 posted on 07/26/2009 5:51:09 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people..." John Adams)
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To: real_patriotic_american

This is the best article that I’ve read on this whole thing. It puts everything in perpective and includes things I’ve never heard before, like Obama’s Kindergarden records are conspicuously absent, as are his academic records in his private schools...which are sealed...

He is not very transparent on this....


48 posted on 07/26/2009 5:59:10 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: real_patriotic_american
As a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis. -

In 1981, Obama transferred from Occidental to Columbia. In between, he traveled to Pakistan — a trip that enhanced his foreign policy qualifications, he maintained in a private speech at a San Francisco fundraiser last month. Obama spent "about three weeks" in Pakistan, traveling with Hamid and staying in Karachi with Chandoo's family, said Bill Burton, Obama's press secretary.

Connection

49 posted on 07/26/2009 6:01:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: real_patriotic_american

SPECIAL HUMBLE REQUEST TO AND MSM OR COLLEGE JOURNALIST WHO GETS THE CHANCE:

Please simply ask our president “Why, Sir, do you believe there is such controversy about your citizenship and public education records?”


50 posted on 07/26/2009 6:01:18 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: screaminsunshine

Yes, he is. He may not be a Natural Born U.S. Citizen, but he is a Natural Born Commie.


51 posted on 07/26/2009 6:04:03 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Gargantua
From a Joseph Farrah article in WorldNetDaily. Next?

Hmmmm. I'd like to see another source on that because I've been following this from the beginning and I NEVER seen any proof of this. How did Farah access US Immigration records to prove this item, and why is nobody else reporting it?

I had a son about the same time (June 1961) and I can assure you that I was not traveling ANTWHERE in my 8th, or 9th, month -- certainly not to a 3rd world country -- to give birth.

The ONLY way that I can imagine that this actually happened is that I've read that BO's grandfather was furious that his son had gotten a white girl pregnant and wrote a scathing letter against "mixing blood" to his student son. It is possible that the couple made a trip to Africa to appease the old man. But, whoever made the statement about airlines refusing to allow very pregnant women to fly is correct. That was the rule at the time.

It also was policy at the time that US airlines liked to recruit their stewardesses from the ranks of nurses for just such an emergency. THey weren't all nurses, but the airlines would offere preference to nurses at the time.

52 posted on 07/26/2009 6:04:35 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I've never seen any proof of this (mother's trip to Kenya) PROOF READ, proof read.
53 posted on 07/26/2009 6:07:04 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

if he was a pubbie,everything would have had to come out or you can bet he would’ve been forced off the ballot in several states


54 posted on 07/26/2009 6:11:20 AM PDT by wiggen
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Supposedly there is a quote from Obama himself that his mother was in Nairobi, Kenya 72 hours before he was born.

I’m still looking for it.


55 posted on 07/26/2009 6:11:48 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra

Please ping me to it when you find it.


56 posted on 07/26/2009 6:13:49 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: real_patriotic_american

TOO LATE NOW! There are now some constitutional/legislative “theologians” who say that even IF the DemocRAT votes COULD be found to impeach him, that Obama is legally UNIMPEACHABLE, if in fact he is not a natural-born American. They say that, because then he would never have been eligible to hold the office in the first place, and so is NOT the President, and thus CANNOT be impeached! The articles simply would NOT APPLY to him, any more than they would to you or me. Meanwhile, he occupies the White House, sitting around smoking cigars, drinking Crown Royal, and flitting about on Air Force One. If true, HOW would he be removed from the White House? Perhaps via an ordinary EVICTION process? Don’t let the media bury this story!


57 posted on 07/26/2009 6:16:23 AM PDT by 2harddrive (S)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

TOO LATE NOW! There are now some constitutional/legislative “theologians” who say that even IF the DemocRAT votes COULD be found to impeach him, that Obama is legally UNIMPEACHABLE, if in fact he is not a natural-born American. They say that, because then he would never have been eligible to hold the office in the first place, and so is NOT the President, and thus CANNOT be impeached! The articles simply would NOT APPLY to him, any more than they would to you or me. Meanwhile, he occupies the White House, sitting around smoking cigars, drinking Crown Royal, and flitting about on Air Force One. If true, HOW would he be removed from the White House? Perhaps via an ordinary EVICTION process? Don’t let the media bury this story!


58 posted on 07/26/2009 6:20:17 AM PDT by 2harddrive (S)
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To: real_patriotic_american
>"Most of the conspiracies may seem petty and insignificant,"

Yeah, the Nonstitution is a flawed and insignificant conspiracy document!

59 posted on 07/26/2009 6:20:49 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Ifanationexpects tobe ignorantandfree,inastateofcivilization,itexpects whatneverwas andnever will be)
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To: real_patriotic_american

****


60 posted on 07/26/2009 6:27:53 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (o)...Ayatollah of GlennBeckistan... keep it going brother...(o)
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