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Signature of antimatter detected in lightning
ScienceNews ^ | 11/6/09 | Ron Cowen

Posted on 11/07/2009 3:35:23 PM PST by LibWhacker

Fermi telescope finds evidence that positrons, not just electrons, are in storms on Earth

Washington — Designed to scan the heavens thousands to billions of light-years beyond the solar system for gamma rays, the Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope has also picked up a shocking vibe from Earth. During its first 14 months of operation, the flying observatory has detected 17 gamma-ray flashes associated with terrestrial storms — and some of those flashes have contained a surprising signature of antimatter.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: antimatter; catastrophism; earth; fermi; lightning; stringtheory
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1 posted on 11/07/2009 3:35:24 PM PST by LibWhacker
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2 posted on 11/07/2009 3:40:38 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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That’s awesome. Wonder if that will explain part of the sound generated by a lightning strike, or even a spark.


3 posted on 11/07/2009 3:41:52 PM PST by TheZMan (Just secede and get it over with. No love lost on either side. Cya.)
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So let me get this straight. Scientists are still learning things that change “facts” in science? But they are so certain that they know all the “facts” on global warming - so much that they are willing to bankrupt all of the nations in the industrialized world - specifically US - to stop it.

Global warming = control. If CO2 is bad then they have the “right” to control all those who use/make it - every human being. (sorry to hijack thread...it just reminded me again how little we truly know about this planet, the universe, and interactivity between all entities. The Global Warmests are the most arrogant people on the planet.


4 posted on 11/07/2009 3:47:01 PM PST by dannyboy72a (The President of the United States should not be selling me insurance or lightbulbs)
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And some of the most gullible and stupid people on Earth! Al Gore is a prime example of the “Elmer Gantry” type...just more greedy and grasping.


5 posted on 11/07/2009 4:36:39 PM PST by junkman_106 (USN, Ret.and Mad as Hell. I've got the skills, come get my weapons!)
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And some of the most gullible and stupid people on Earth! Al Gore is a prime example of the “Elmer Gantry” type...just more greedy and grasping.


6 posted on 11/07/2009 4:36:47 PM PST by junkman_106 (USN, Ret.and Mad as Hell. I've got the skills, come get my weapons!)
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I believe the sound production can be explained by the heating effects, although the thermodynamics are complex; rather like modeling an H-bomb explosion via computer simulation.

There may be some level of precision where quantum effects have to be accounted for.

BTW—

Since a garden variety gamma ray has a energy of 100+ KeV, it is plausible that a lightning strike, which often begins with potential differences of megavolts, could produce them.


7 posted on 11/07/2009 5:13:52 PM PST by Erasmus (Sid's oxymorons: Journal of Non-Verbal Communications.)
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To: LibWhacker

It produces power to drive this.

8 posted on 11/07/2009 5:19:25 PM PST by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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9 posted on 11/08/2009 5:13:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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10 posted on 11/08/2009 5:14:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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The ZOT lives!


11 posted on 11/08/2009 5:28:09 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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Antimatter. And now we know the real reason behind--

ǝuıɥɔɐɯ ɹǝɥʇɐǝʍ s,ʎǝuǝɥɔ ʞɔıp

(what color is a whissper?)

12 posted on 11/08/2009 5:34:01 PM PST by bigheadfred (Be who you are and say what you feel: Those who mind don't matter.Those who matter don't mind.)
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Antimatter matters not.


13 posted on 11/08/2009 6:00:57 PM PST by decimon
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There are two kinds of stuff... Matter, and Doesn’t Matter..


14 posted on 11/08/2009 8:15:48 PM PST by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hmm. Interesting, though not really so suprising. There’s a hell of alot of power in these things.

Thanks always for the pings.


15 posted on 11/09/2009 7:29:12 AM PST by onedoug
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The article is not correct, a positron is not really antimatter, it is just an antiparticle. You need an antiproton as well, and then, with luck, you would have an antihydrogen atom.

This seems to have been http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron-positron_annihilation

16 posted on 11/09/2009 9:00:55 AM PST by AdmSmith
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"There are two kinds of stuff... Matter, and Doesn't Matter.. "

Yep! As science, this probably doesn't matter, IMHO (currently)...

However, what does "matter" (based on a quick reading of this article) is that some a_hole might have had the dang telescope pointed in the wrong direction.

" Modelers are now working to figure out how the field reversal could have occurred. "

How about finding out how the "real" reversal could have occurred?

17 posted on 11/09/2009 2:11:54 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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Thanks!


18 posted on 11/09/2009 5:38:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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BTTT!


19 posted on 11/12/2009 12:41:16 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: AdmSmith
The article is not correct, a positron is not really antimatter, it is just an antiparticle.

It IS antimattter. Not an anti-atom, but electrons and positrons (anti-electrons) are matter. So are quarks and anti-quarks, although at that level the difference between matter and energy is somewhat fuzzy.

20 posted on 11/12/2009 1:25:33 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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