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MILLION HIT BY 'PLAGUE WORSE THAN SWINE FLU' A DEADLY plague could sweep across Europe, doctors fear
Daily Express ^ | November 15,2009 | Greg Miskiw

Posted on 11/17/2009 2:45:30 PM PST by JrsyJack

A DEADLY plague could sweep across Europe, doctors fear, after an outbreak of a virus in Ukraine plunged the country and its neighbours into a state of panic.

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: europe; hit; million; plague; swineflu; ukraine; worse
The story is worrisome enough without this: Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has been touring hospitals where victims are being treated and presidential elections in January could be cancelled .

Obama have a similar plan for us?

1 posted on 11/17/2009 2:45:32 PM PST by JrsyJack
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To: JrsyJack
Oh, I'm sure he has tons of plans. Interrupt them with prayer. It works.
2 posted on 11/17/2009 2:47:37 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: JrsyJack
Oh, I'm sure he has tons of plans. Interrupt them with prayer. It works.
3 posted on 11/17/2009 2:48:14 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: JrsyJack

Swine flu being no more deadly than the regular flu. Let’s all freak out.


4 posted on 11/17/2009 2:49:12 PM PST by allmost
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To: JrsyJack

This smells of tin-foil.


5 posted on 11/17/2009 2:50:23 PM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Steamburg

It’s true. I have friends that adopted from Ukraine. They’ve pretty much been in shut down mode over there for the past three weeks.


6 posted on 11/17/2009 2:54:37 PM PST by txmissy
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To: JrsyJack

See:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2387647/posts


7 posted on 11/17/2009 2:55:17 PM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: JrsyJack
"The story is worrisome enough without this: Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has been touring hospitals where victims are being treated and presidential elections in January could be cancelled . Obama have a similar plan for us?"

Let's not start this again.

I have very distinct memories of FReeper theories in 2000 that Bill Clinton was going to use an Executive Order canceling or postponing the 2000 Presidential elections. I also remember overhearing some liberals in a convenience store in 2008 claiming that George W Bush was going to use an Executive Order to postpone or cancel the 2008 elections.

It's not going to happen.
Period.
End of Story.

8 posted on 11/17/2009 2:55:36 PM PST by Artemis Webb
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To: Steamburg
Every year or two the media predicts a mega-plague to wipe out a third of the human race. When it predictably fizzles with nothing happening, they reach down into their muckraker bag and come up with a new a wilder idiotic prediction like this. It is a deterministic process - prediction fails, make a bigger prediction of the same kind. They hope the repetition and the volume of their screaming will obscure the underlying stupidity and the endless track record of hopeless error.
9 posted on 11/17/2009 2:56:17 PM PST by JasonC
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To: txmissy
It’s true.

Except the mortality rate is less than seasonal flu. Maybe sheer numbers of cases is what is panicking them.

10 posted on 11/17/2009 2:56:59 PM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Artemis Webb
It's not going to happen. Period. End of Story.

You're right. The 'Rats have perfected the art of election theft. No need to cancel anything.

11 posted on 11/17/2009 2:59:48 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: JrsyJack
cocktail of three flu viruses are reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague, which it is believed may be far more dangerous than swine flu. The death toll has reached 189 and more than 1 million people have been infected, most of them in the nine regions of Western Ukraine.

189/1,000,000 = 0.0189%. Or, expressed in the common rate: 18.9 deaths per 100,000.

If every person in the world was infected with this disease, and the death rate remained at 18.9 per 100,000, it would put this disease between "road traffic accidents" (19.1) and "childhood diseases" (18.1).

It would be ranked #20 in this list of death rates, by cause:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate

12 posted on 11/17/2009 3:01:39 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Artemis Webb

All our times have come
Here but now they’re gone
Seasons don’t fear the reaper
Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain..we can be like they are
Come on baby...don’t fear the reaper
Baby take my hand...don’t fear the reaper
We’ll be able to fly...don’t fear the reaper
Baby I’m your man...


13 posted on 11/17/2009 3:01:54 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: JasonC
Every year or two the media predicts a mega-plague to wipe out a third of the human race.

It ain't just the media. Check out Revelations chapter 9. There is some really scary stuff there. And it's all true.

14 posted on 11/17/2009 3:04:09 PM PST by BipolarBob (Thailand?)
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To: BipolarBob
Nope, it is just another instance of doom mongers being a perennial species of idiot.
15 posted on 11/17/2009 3:08:27 PM PST by JasonC
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To: buccaneer81
"You're right. The 'Rats have perfected the art of election theft. No need to cancel anything."

STOP BEING RIGHT! :)

16 posted on 11/17/2009 3:09:21 PM PST by Artemis Webb
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To: JrsyJack
Obama's crisis syndrome will backfire

Snips:

The Obama administration, however, has a new tactic, one that has raised the level of concern and the need for action. It describes every issue as a crisis.

Chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has said a crisis is too important to be wasted.

Biden's crisis remarks reverberate

.....Remember, I said it standing here, if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

17 posted on 11/17/2009 3:09:54 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: JrsyJack

Ken Alibek, of Soviet Bio weapons lab fame, probably knows exactly what this disease is...


18 posted on 11/17/2009 3:13:48 PM PST by Wildbill22
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To: txmissy

So? We’ve been in a shut down mode longer than that.


19 posted on 11/17/2009 3:16:50 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: JrsyJack

Like Wilson said.

YOU LIE.


20 posted on 11/17/2009 3:22:20 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Kartographer

Walking Dude-Randall Flagg is that you?


21 posted on 11/17/2009 3:30:18 PM PST by Duaine (Peace is our profession....)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
...doctors fear, after an outbreak of a virus in Ukraine plunged the country and its neighbours into a state of panic.
This is what happens when ya piss off Vlad Putin.
22 posted on 11/17/2009 4:51:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Duaine; RandallFlagg
We should all be getting a 'postcard' postmark Ukraine from Randall any day now.

"The wind had picked up again, it made strange hooting sound in some empty doorway, and farther away he thought he could hear bootheels pacing off the night, rundown bootheels somewhere in the foothills coming to him on the chilly draft of this early morning breeze. Dirty bootheels clocking their way into the grave of the West."
23 posted on 11/17/2009 5:53:31 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

What we need now is a real “Gunslinger” to lead our merry band and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM


24 posted on 11/17/2009 6:13:26 PM PST by Duaine (Peace is our profession....)
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To: Duaine
I settle for a Jed Eckert to lead us on a much needed revolution. WOLVERINES!


25 posted on 11/17/2009 7:08:17 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: justlurking; SunkenCiv
Ukraine Dead Increase to 328 - Still No Sequences
Recombinomics Commentary 19:17
November 17, 2009

The above numbers are in the latest update from the Ukraine Health Department and include 13 more deaths. Although the number of deaths has decline slightly from the prior two days, the increase in cases and hospitalizations suggest the decline in deaths may be temporary. The largest increase in cases was again in Kiev (5522 to 109,676) and two other eastern oblast (see map) had daily increases of more than 4000 cases (Dnipropetrovsk and Denetsk). The steady rise in deaths continues to increase concerns over an H1N1 genetic change leading to an increase in lung disease such as those described earlier.

Recently released swine H1N1 from other locations have included receptor binding domain changes at position 225 (D225E, D225N, D225G) as well as 226 (Q226R) raising concerns that similar changes in Ukraine cold lead to the high frequency of fatal lung infections (Q226R has been seen previously in human H5N1 as well as H3 isolates from swine, ducks, and seals). The new update did not address receptor binding domain changes or other SNPs that could have significant effects on the pathogenicity of the virus.

Therefore, the release of sequences and comments on receptor binding domain changes would be useful
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11170902/Ukraine_328.html

26 posted on 11/18/2009 5:24:11 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: DvdMom; SunkenCiv; nuconvert

The mutation at the receptor binding domain to position 225 from Aspartic acid (D) to Glycine (G), D225G resembles the 1918 outbreak in the second phase, I hope that all of you are vaccinated. I had muscle aches for two days where the shot was given, but that is better than the real thing.


27 posted on 11/18/2009 2:22:36 PM PST by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

I had flu and shingle shots last month. I’m 62. How do you know which flu you’re vaccinated against vs what flu is coming down the road?


28 posted on 11/18/2009 2:27:49 PM PST by votemout
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To: votemout

If you are in the Northern hemisphere, and not have been traveling it is most likely that you had the new 2009 A/H1N1, and not the seasonal flu. But not 100 % certain http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/ The only thing you know is what type of vaccine you got. You should take both.


29 posted on 11/18/2009 2:41:07 PM PST by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

” I hope that all of you are vaccinated.”

If they don’t think it’s H1N1, which vaccine are you referring to?


30 posted on 11/18/2009 3:51:20 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: AdmSmith

thanks , for the ping :)


31 posted on 11/18/2009 3:52:58 PM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the avian / H1N1 ping list)
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To: JrsyJack
DOOOOOM!!
32 posted on 11/18/2009 3:53:17 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Steamburg; Artemis Webb
This smells of tin-foil.

It most certainly does.

There are quite a few drama queens on FR. Yes, Obama sucks and is a Marxist scum-puppet, but these wild-eyed, hyperbolic predictions make FR look like a bunch of loons.

BTW, I was greeted home from the Middle East last month with a case of H1N1. It's the flu. If you're a healthy adult, you will likely just feel like crap for a few days and have a lingering cough for a couple of weeks.

Pretty much like any other flu.

People need to chill.

33 posted on 11/18/2009 4:00:43 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: AdmSmith

My Dr. is at Scripps in Encinitas CA. Didn’t have the swine vaccine, so probably the seasonal. He said “regular “ flu shot.


34 posted on 11/18/2009 5:13:26 PM PST by votemout
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To: sonofagun; txmissy; All
If anyone is interested there is a large long ongoing messagethread about this epidemic in Ukraine. Below is a link to the first report of the Ukraine H1N1 flu outbreak on Free Republic; that messagethread is currently 4 pages long, and may be of interest to some posters, as it contains direct links to many dozens of articles about this outbreak, from ever since articles began to start to appear in the Western press.

SHOCK! Epidemic of pneumonic plague in Ukraine? (updated at 05:39 pm)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2374394/posts

35 posted on 11/19/2009 8:57:31 AM PST by hennie pennie
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