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William Shakespeare and Fulke Greville
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Posted on 12/27/2009 3:00:15 AM PST by crypt

The mystery surrounding Lord Brooke Fulke Greville and William Shakespeare is creating huge interest around the World,with many people questioning if William Shakespeare really was the poet Fulke Greville or at the very least Shakespeares Master.


TOPICS: Poetry
KEYWORDS: fake; fraud; fulkegreville; godsgravesglyphs; phony; shakespeare; uktouristtrap; williamshakespeare
It would be rather ignorant of us if we just pretended this scenario was incorrect. If Fulke Greville was discovered to be of more importance then his works should be recognised more on the worldwide stage and taught throuout the system not just at Oxford and Cambridge.
1 posted on 12/27/2009 3:00:18 AM PST by crypt
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To: crypt

Link?


2 posted on 12/27/2009 3:12:34 AM PST by Edgar3 (America is suffering from "Sorosis" of the Presidency)
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To: crypt
William Shakespeare or Fulke Greville? That is the question

Who was Fulke Greville

3 posted on 12/27/2009 3:37:21 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was born 1554 at Beauchamp Court,Warwickshire,owner of Warwick Castle in the early 1600s.
He was a Poet,Statesman,Courtier under three rulers Elizabeth 1st,James 1st and Charles 1st.He was also a Diplomat,member of Parliament four times,Treasurer of the Navy and Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Fulke Greville was a friend and confidante to Elizabeth 1st and his close friend was Sir Philip Sydney and Francis Drake.
Fulke Greville wrote many written works including Caelica and Mustapha.
It is believed by many that Fulke Greville and William Shakespeare are the same person and at the very least Fulke Greville was the Master of Shakespeare.His 8th Great Grandson Christopher Brooke Fulke Greville is working with other historians to uncover the truth and put it into the public domain.
Many experts in the field such as Mr AWL Saunders agree that there is a mystery to be solved and they are to this day working to unearth secret documents at St Marys Church,Warwick that may prove the direct link between William Shakespeare and Fulke Greville.
www.masterofshakespeare.com


4 posted on 12/27/2009 4:05:11 AM PST by crypt
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To: crypt
Oh pleeeazzee.... everyone knows the conspiricy theorist's favorite choice for William Shakespeare was Sir Francis Bacon. Do we really need to add any more candidates to the list.

Frankly, I find it amusing that so many people think you can take a historical figure who had a well documented life and career and say that his life's work was another man's.

This is incredibly silly. There is ample evidence of William Shakespeare's life, travels, writing, production of plays, acting and death. This conspiricy nonsense is no different than a future generation coming up with a theory that Bob Dylan's songs were actually written by J Paul Getty.

5 posted on 12/27/2009 4:15:02 AM PST by DCBurgess58 (In a Capitalist society, men exploit other men. In a Communist society it's exactly the opposite.)
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To: crypt

Crypto, I notice you post some interesting threads but you put in a sentence or two of data without links. Best to put up a good story with links and then comment about it in your post. But good information, and thanks.


6 posted on 12/27/2009 5:52:59 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: DCBurgess58

I thought it was Bob Dylan who wrote Woody Gutrie’s songs? J. Paul Getty wrote Elvis Presley’s hits, that’s common knowledge among music historians and culture buffs.


7 posted on 12/27/2009 5:55:34 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: crypt

You put up a good thread about this subject in September, and I’ve bookmarked that one too. An interesting subject, and thanks for bringing it to our notice. The Shakespearen argument is one of the endearing alternate-theory topics, and is always good for a read.


8 posted on 12/27/2009 6:01:15 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: SunkenCiv

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9 posted on 12/27/2009 6:05:52 AM PST by kalee (On the second day of Christmas my true love gave to me...)
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To: onedoug
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10 posted on 12/27/2009 6:51:24 AM PST by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: stylecouncilor

You’ve got that right.


11 posted on 12/27/2009 7:11:47 AM PST by onedoug
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To: crypt

for some strange reason i find this subject fascinating.
I have read 30 shakesepere biographies. fiften pro stratford and 15 anti.
I am a total agnostic on this issue.
either the guy from stratford wrote the plays or he didn’t. It is a scientific question. One day there will be no controversy.
I am looking forward to that day.


12 posted on 12/27/2009 7:34:59 AM PST by genghis
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To: BlueStateBlues
Mea culpa, you are correct, I was miss-remembering there. Woody Guthrie was actually a shoe salesman who's name Bob Dylan had found in an old Kinny shoes catalog. Bob chose to write a series of songs and credit them as Woody Guthrie. According to the legend, Bob and Phil Ochs were taking a steam bath and Phil had suggested that Bob should publish his music. Phil finished by telling Bob "You should really go out there and shake your woody"

As far as the attribution of Elvis' songs to J. Paul Getty goes, there are actually quite a few scholars who feel that Ted Turner is a much closer match to Elvis' style.

13 posted on 12/27/2009 8:38:35 AM PST by DCBurgess58 (In a Capitalist society, men exploit other men. In a Communist society it's exactly the opposite.)
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14 posted on 12/27/2009 6:09:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: crypt

My wife actually watched HenryV with me last night....to indulge me.

I wept at St Crispin.


15 posted on 12/27/2009 6:10:27 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: stylecouncilor; BlueStateBlues; onedoug; DCBurgess58

:’D


16 posted on 12/27/2009 6:11:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: wardaddy
I prefer extra-Crispin.
But, of course, that is a personal preference.
17 posted on 12/27/2009 8:30:48 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: genghis

All hell will break loose if they find out that it was Fulke Greville who really was the Master of Shakespeare,especially from the Shakespeare tunnel visionaries.
There are to many relative facts that go to prove Fulke Greville used the AKA William Shakespeare.
At the time of Fulke Grevilles Empire building with various Kings and Queen he served under as Courtier,Treasurer to the Navy,Chancellor.It may have been wise to have kept out of the public spotlight,especially as Queen Elizabeth 1st ordered him at the time not to go galavanting off to the Caribbean with his friend Sir Francis Drake as she needed him at home.
Fulke Greville was a very busy man.


18 posted on 12/29/2009 5:59:49 AM PST by crypt
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To: DCBurgess58

Agreed! I have always been curious about what the motivation behind the conspiracy theories behind Shakespeare. It is as if we can accept the musical genius of a man such as Mozart, but we cannot accept the literary genius of the Bard.


19 posted on 12/31/2009 8:58:39 AM PST by StarfireIV (Atlas Punted)
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Its interesting what the Mail ONLINE is saying within its editorial.
Many notable experts are coming to believe that Fulke Greville may just be the exception to the validity of this mystery and not trying to be some misenterpetration of our English history.
Experts and Historians such as Professor Rockwell,AWL Saunderss and family member Christopher Fulke Greville all hope to achieve uncovering verification as to the claim that Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was the Master of William Shakespeare.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250068/A-murdered-spy-coded-messages-grave-Will-opening-this-tomb-prove-Shakespeare-didnt-write-his-plays
Reading some replies I am dumbfounded as to the possible ignorance and tunnel vision of some people not to accept that William Shakespeares validity could be questioned.
You cant change the truth if its a fact,
One stupid reply indicated that the investigative team behind this mystery is trying to destroy English Heritage,absolute TOSH.Because if its found Fulke Greville is the Master of William Shakespeare or the man himself,lets not forget that Fulke Greville is English and is of the most high of English Noble families,especially around the Warwick area.

An interesting point to make is if Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was writing William Shakespeares works and he was the first Grand Master of the Rosicrucian Order then he would have automatically had to be anonymous as it would have been in breach of this secret Orders agenda.


20 posted on 02/25/2010 9:32:10 AM PST by crypt
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To: StarfireIV

Its interesting what the Mail ONLINE is saying within its editorial.
Many notable experts are coming to believe that Fulke Greville may just be the exception to the validity of this mystery and not trying to be some misenterpetration of our English history.
Experts and Historians such as Professor Rockwell,AWL Saunderss and family member Christopher Fulke Greville all hope to achieve uncovering verification as to the claim that Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was the Master of William Shakespeare.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250068/A-murdered-spy-coded-messages-grave-Will-opening-this-tomb-prove-Shakespeare-didnt-write-his-plays
Reading some replies I am dumbfounded as to the possible ignorance and tunnel vision of some people not to accept that William Shakespeares validity could be questioned.
You cant change the truth if its a fact,
One stupid reply indicated that the investigative team behind this mystery is trying to destroy English Heritage,absolute TOSH.Because if its found Fulke Greville is the Master of William Shakespeare or the man himself,lets not forget that Fulke Greville is English and is of the most high of English Noble families,especially around the Warwick area.

An interesting point to make is if Fulke Greville,Lord Brooke was writing William Shakespeares works and he was the first Grand Master of the Rosicrucian Order then he would have automatically had to be anonymous as it would have been in breach of this secret Orders agenda.


21 posted on 02/25/2010 9:34:03 AM PST by crypt
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To: crypt

Well done.Its about time someone understands just how important Fulke Greville was in many aspects of English life during the 16th and 17th century.
I and many others believe questions remain as to the validity of William Shakespeares works,are they William Shakespeares or Fulke Greville or are they the same person as we believe they may be.


22 posted on 09/26/2011 11:50:14 AM PDT by crypt
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Well done.Its about time someone understands just how important Fulke Greville was in many aspects of English life during the 16th and 17th century.
I and many others believe questions remain as to the validity of William Shakespeares works,are they William Shakespeares or Fulke Greville or are they the same person as we believe they may be.


23 posted on 09/26/2011 11:51:44 AM PDT by crypt
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