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Maine: Do rings of Herbie the elm have age, climate data?
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/31/10 | David Sharp - ap

Posted on 01/31/2010 2:55:38 PM PST by NormsRevenge

YARMOUTH, Maine – Herbie, the giant American elm tree, is giving his trunk over to science.

Since the tree was felled two weeks ago, scientists from Columbia University, the University of Maine and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration have contacted the Maine Forest Service about examining Herbie's trunk to see what can be learned about the tree's age and about the climate over the years.

Peter Lammert of the Maine Forest Service said his computer has been clogged with e-mails from scientists interested in the stories that Herbie's growth rings might tell.

In particular, Herbie's demise is bringing out of the woodwork highly specialized scientists who study tree rings: Dendroclimatologists, who look to tree rings for answers about the climate, and dendrochronologists, who specialize in determining the age of trees based on rings.

The tallest American elm in New England, the 110-foot-tree survived 14 bouts of Dutch elm disease, thanks to the town's long-time tree warden, Frank Knight, who's now 101.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Outdoors; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatedata; globalwarming; godsgravesglyphs; herbie; maine; rings
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1 posted on 01/31/2010 2:55:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Tree rings say: Much cooler long ago, then get much warmer, then get much cooler, then get..... ad infinitum


2 posted on 01/31/2010 2:59:39 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: NormsRevenge

Tree Warden?

TREE WARDEN???

What the heck is a Tree Warden?


3 posted on 01/31/2010 3:12:24 PM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: NormsRevenge

True science. Nobody has an agenda. Nobody has a point in examining the tree. Nobody’s getting a grant (? — right?). People doing it because it’s interesting. Got the tree rings & a lot of written history to compare.


4 posted on 01/31/2010 3:12:30 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: Peter W. Kessler

The old fart that took care of the tree as long as he was able.


5 posted on 01/31/2010 3:15:26 PM PST by goseminoles
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 01/31/2010 3:20:29 PM PST by steelyourfaith (FReepers were opposed to Obama even before it was cool to be against Obama.)
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To: Peter W. Kessler

An elected or appointed official in charge of the public, as opposed private, trees. We also have bounders who check that the boarders of the town have not been infringed on.


7 posted on 01/31/2010 3:24:27 PM PST by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: Bhoy
"True science...."

Indeed. Send slices of the trunk to local high schools and colleges so they can learn first hand the science of tree ring climate studies from a local source.

8 posted on 01/31/2010 3:24:46 PM PST by LiberConservative
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To: NormsRevenge

Herbie the VW probably would provide as much, if not more, data.


9 posted on 01/31/2010 3:31:56 PM PST by hflynn (The One is really the Number Two)
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To: NormsRevenge

Most;y they tell about how much rain there is.


10 posted on 01/31/2010 3:41:23 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The tallest American elm in New England, the 110-foot-tree survived 14 bouts of Dutch elm disease, thanks to the town's long-time tree warden, Frank Knight, who's now 101.

Wow. Frank is old enough to remember when Herbie was just a seedling.

11 posted on 01/31/2010 3:51:00 PM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: NormsRevenge

Note to self.

Man wants to control his weather and experience no climatic changes and complete perfect weather conditions.

Man has not the means to control the solar conditions nor the infinite variation of cycles on earth.

He can not control the tilt of the earth, the wobble, nor any of the internal geophysical, chemical, atmospheric (yetta, yetta, yetta) cycles which regulate earth’s environment.

Man will no longer have to worry about even the slightest variations due to the lunar cycles. No full moons, no tides, no light at night except for the stars.

I will give man 2 weeks and he will come back screaming to be allowed to worship and respect me and the cosmos I have built - for he will be bored stiff with fighting things he thought he could control only to find that he hasn’t the vaguest idea (or ability) to control even the most basic of his immediate environment.

Those that do survive those two weeks will hopefully came to respect what I have given them and the complexity of life.

Then I will start from scratch with the few that do survive and whom genuinely seek forgiveness for their arrogance and then “I” might allow the next batch of humans to live in their once wildly diverse (and static) environment - again. But only if they have the proper and a greater respect and understanding of life and my place in that complex relationship.

Sincerely - “God”


12 posted on 01/31/2010 3:52:34 PM PST by jongaltsr (It)
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13 posted on 01/31/2010 5:37:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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14 posted on 01/31/2010 5:40:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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They should 2” thick sections for $1,000 bucks a threw. It should be a share the grant wealth project


15 posted on 01/31/2010 5:50:20 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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Say it ain't so,Herbie is dead and they want to experiment on his rings??
16 posted on 01/31/2010 5:59:00 PM PST by GSP.FAN (These are the times that try men's souls.)
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They tried to blow him up, but burned their lips on the tailpipe.


17 posted on 01/31/2010 6:16:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: goseminoles

Of course, being a tree warden isn’t all that strenuous. He never had to worry much about an escape.


18 posted on 01/31/2010 6:33:30 PM PST by Erasmus (<under construction>)
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“We also have bounders who check that the BOARDERS of the town have not been infringed on”.

So, these bounders check up on the people eating and or staying at a boarding house?

Or, do they check to make sure the BORDERS of the town are not infringed upon?

I suspect the latter. Hence the name “bounder” for boundary.


19 posted on 01/31/2010 7:02:49 PM PST by outhousepatrol
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To: SunkenCiv
At 235-40 years old, this three is just a youngster.

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"At night, lights illuminate the skeletal outlines of the 500-year-old oak in a ghostly shroud. The tree, dating to the voyage of Christopher Columbus, is without leaves or the cloak of Spanish moss it once had."

20 posted on 01/31/2010 9:42:06 PM PST by blam
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