Posted on 04/02/2010 5:05:17 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
Are you truly independent? Do you have the skills? Can you hunt, grow a garden, can food, sew-knit, live off the land? Are you ready? Do you possess the "lost" skills? Our family is ready. In obama's words, "bring it on". Once the economy collapses, I'll be here longer than the liberals and their pampered lives.
A few things on my wish list:
Suture kit
Skin Stapler
HemCon
No kidding. I found the nutrition information. Serving sizes are 1 cup. Calories range from 80 to 220 depending on the dish.
What about tampons-
I remember using them on occasion when someone came into ER with serious nose bleed. Ready made for the situation.
make sure they are unscented. Allergies and irritations.
Make sure they are maxi or maximum overnights. Soaks the most.
If you can afford Quicklot then you can put that in a large wound, cover with maxipad and then a compression style bandage.
Here is the set up I have
1 large Quickclot
1 small quicklot
4 overnight maxipad
2 x 4” gauze bandage roll
2 pair nalprene glove powderless
burn kit
2 x 4” Nexcare wound dressing
2 x 4” J&J UltraHeal Multi-Day Pads, ultra absorbent, pressure bandage
2 x N95 mask
3 feet med tape
3 feet med duct tape for chest wound
Placed into one pint bag, Pressed all flat, place that into food saver bag and sucked all the air out,
The inner bag is a double zip bag and when compressed the whole thing is about 6 x 6 inches.
Once opened the outer bag can be used for gaping chest wound with 3 sides taped down using the duct tape.
I have 5 of these packages and they fit almost anywhere and I have a regular First aid kit in the car, in my office, in my home, in my friends home and an extra one laying around.
I grew up “independent”. Oh sure we used the grid etc., but could have unplugged at a moment’s notice and done just fine for a long time. Grew half our food, heated on wood in NY, even made maple syrup. And that being the culmination of a prolonged NY blizzard, when I was a mere babe in arms and my folks, faced with the prospects of the natural gas lines being shut down and no means to “survive”, looked at each other and said “never again”; thirty-some years later they’re still loving independence.
Favorite story: as “Y2K” loomed, I told Dad about the great SHTF/TEOTWAWKI scenario regarding the date bug. He listened, understood, shrugged, and replied “so I’ll throw another log on the fire and go back to my book” - and indeed he would have, being in survival mode for decades. Not just “survival mode” as we usually think it, but as the bulk of a modern and fulfilling lifestyle.
Years later with my own family, am I there? not so much. Married a city girl who dislikes a full pantry. Nonetheless, we’d manage for some time: live in the almost-temperate South, own a small (real small, 1/3rd acre) forest, not far from a lake, enough arms for the neighbors, and enough stockpiled food & water to at least eat for the better part of a year. Which reminds me: gotta ask if I can borrow their unused grain mill.
Yes, we’d survive for some time, though not as well as I’d like. Better dry storage, more stored, an efficient fireplace insert, some solar power, and an ongoing garden would help.
BTTT
I’m not worried about plans being known by survival-minded people scattered half across the globe.
I’m worried about the local thugs with cars who know about this hidden oasis of a subdivision.
Somehow I don’t think the latter will be planning strategy around my posts.
And as an NFA owner, I’m already on “that list”.
That is cool.
through radios, cranks, batteries and some other stuff in an old microwave. Instant Faraday cage and free.
JDW explained faraday cage and quick way to bet one is an old microwave machine.
Microwave machine acts as a faraday cage/
Sorry, but just gotta chime in...
I agree with the cans of heirloom seed commercials - buyers don’t have a clue - sellers don’t care that they overstate the situation and how much ‘balanced’ food nutrition you will get... Plus as you say, they never mention the 3-4 months during the growing season part of the year only...
Now,
Regarding >>>1). why non-hybrid????? Shouldn’t you try to get the most hardy hybrid seeds for post apocolypse?<<<
Yep, good idea - BUT you have to store the parent stock that went into the cross of the hybrid to get the vigor.
If you plant that hybrid the second year, you only get 50% like the hybrid and 25% like each of the parents. Research will show you that a Priest many years ago discovered this while working with peas. Think of it this way you have plant AA and plant BB when you cross them to make a hybrid, you have AB and BA which are identical and have hybrid vigor. If you planted the AB/BA plants you would get equal quantities of AA, AB,BB and BA - so with each years planting, you get further and further away from the hybrid. Hope that is about as clear as mud for ya...
With the adapted heirlooms, you can plant repeatedly and select your plants for seed each year based on performance. Plus, seeds can also be stored for years (except onions). Please don’t do like some though - ‘I heard of canned seeds, so I canned some in my pressure canner, so I am all set’. NOPE they are sterile now.........
Regarding >>>2). Why not just buy a bunch of already grown stuff like wheat or MREs and canned food? When bad times happen, are you going to have time to grow stuff before dying of starvation???<<<
Initial storage can be bought and stored and if packaged right, can still be good after 25 years (shoot, they found grain in some of the pyramids still viable after more than two millennia. Since few have combines, they need to have the resourcefulness to devise their own way to harvest it. I have a frame that is covered with 1/4” hardware cloth that just fits on my garden wagon. put it on and after cutting and shocking the grain for drying, you place a bundle of it on the screen and aggressively rub it against the screen - then you have the grain and some chaff in the wagon. Then winnow it (toss it up in the air with a nice breeze and the chaff gets blown out, till you get it good and clean. Works pretty well to freeze it for a couple of weeks before sealing it up in a mylar bag in a sealed bucket. Potatoes, sweet potatoes, turnips, carrots and winter squash like butternut will easily store all winter. Home canned meat is basically good ‘ indefinitely’ and veggies are good for many years - and I mean MANY...
Put your growing plan into action NOW and can/freeze/dehydrate more than you will use in a year - I do about 80+ cases (soon to be over 100) plus two freezers and dehydrate quite a bit. Right now, as I plant this years crops, I still have enough for a whole year on hand. That way I can even survive a total crop loss for a year and still be able to carry on. USE YOUR FOOD! No cooking/eating break-in period and an excellent rotation without having to throw out the old for the new.
Yes, I have generators and inverters along with batteries, but I have gasoline, kerosene and water stockpiled too. I can cook on LP gas, electric, wood, coal, kerosene interchangeably from stocks I have of each of them. (could probably do solar oven too if needed.) I have raised hogs, calves, goats and sheep, have butchered all of them and have canned, frozen and dried all of it. Butchered 3 deer last year and two this year - have about half of it backed up in glass jars.
It is time consuming, particularly when you have 5 gallon stainless pots simmering tomato sauce and pressure canner processing green beans/corn/etc. and hot water bath processing pickles all at the same time. 2 acres of intensive garden is providing for 4 families quite nicely - fortunately am retired and can input the time required.
You don’t have to buy the most expensive equipment, but a Victria mill will suffice along with a meat grinder and sausage stuffer - Oh, and a sauce master is well worth the price. I buy jar lids by the case and keep more than a year ahead in stock on them.
When you do it that way, you hardly notice the prices going up in the grocery store (other than gloating when you see what others are paying for a tomato or such). You also have a piece of mind, knowing that you don’t NEED no stinkin gov’t. handout - and I have a family Dr. within 500’, a nurse and two surgeons within half mile for medical needs. (cultivate their friendship! I regularly give them surplus veggies that I won’t have time to preserve - or that two daughters living very nearby don’t need.
/soapbox
Hmpf, no kidding? How well does it work? very inexpensive.
Reminder to all, as this thread roundabout reminds me:
MEDICATIONS!!!
All my preps won’t do me much good when I’m stroking out for want of XXXXXXXX. Can’t make the stuff, but I can know how to minimize the need, store a year’s worth, and know what substitutes might help me along in a pinch.
Know what you need to survive. A lot of us forget we’re really dependent on (in irony) the health care system. Know also how you’ll check out in the worst case, and prepare your dependents accordingly.
What is the advance warning time frame to even get your electronics into a Faraday cage or microwave and protected?
LOL! Me too!
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