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Message for Chuck DeVore (Do what is right for your country)

Posted on 05/07/2010 10:51:05 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

I am from Ohio so I don't really have a dog in this fight.

But over the last couple of days. The situation in California has divided the Republican Party nationally. There is a lot of in-fighting. A lot of people who are fighting. Sarah Palin is being attacked for no good reason.

I think the solution is simple. You are not going to win the nomination. Put out the fire, fold up the tent and support the best of the last remaining two candidates.

With you on the ballot, the only possible roll you have is spoiler. So please, for the sake of your country and conservatives...lets mend fences. We need to look forward to November.

With all of this in-fighting. We do not look like a team that is marching toward victory. that needs to change real fast. Our country is in trouble.


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1 posted on 05/07/2010 10:51:05 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

You’re telling DeVore to fold up his tent and go home?

I’m attending one of his speeches/Q&A’s tomorrow, I’ll pass your note on. Do you have any idea what his answer will be?


2 posted on 05/07/2010 10:58:04 PM PDT by Loud Mime (The Constitutional Initial Point - - Initialpoints.net)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Good lord...put yer big boy britches on

Sarah shoulda just let this one settle itself out in my view


3 posted on 05/07/2010 10:59:33 PM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

So you want the only conservative in the race to bail? Maybe you should change your handle to se_ohio_young_liberal...


4 posted on 05/07/2010 11:00:17 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Country won’t improve one bit with Charlie Crist in a skirt


5 posted on 05/07/2010 11:00:58 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
let me put it this way:

Fiorina is hemorrhoids

Boxer is anal fissures

it's a pisspoor choice

6 posted on 05/07/2010 11:01:09 PM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

BTW, did you vote for Obams?


7 posted on 05/07/2010 11:01:20 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Well I do have a dog in the fight, and the Barking is getting real Loud.


8 posted on 05/07/2010 11:01:45 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Loud Mime

Lets see. Let me guess..

I am a loser running a campaign (under investigation) that I can’t possibly win in a million years ?


9 posted on 05/07/2010 11:02:02 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Go to sleep young man.


10 posted on 05/07/2010 11:02:58 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I disagree. The primaries are where these battles are to be and should be fought.


11 posted on 05/07/2010 11:03:26 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Loud Mime
You’re telling DeVore to fold up his tent and go home?

Yes, he/she is. He/she said the same thing in another thread and apparently thought it such great advice he/she created this ridiculous vanity so all could read it.

A little humor for the evening never hurt.

12 posted on 05/07/2010 11:04:05 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: babygene

I voted for Sarah Palin.. and who was that other guy on the ticket with her ?

HECK NO.

are you serious ?

I just think that conservatives shouldn’t turn on Sarah.


13 posted on 05/07/2010 11:04:58 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

The primaries are created so the candidates battle it out and then there is one winner. What is your problem with that?


14 posted on 05/07/2010 11:05:08 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I’m in california and i don’t like any of the candidates for senate or governor. I would prefer that Gov Palin didn’t endorse anyone but i’m glad she highlighted Campbell liberal tendencies. However, what Devore has done since the endorsement is dishonorable for a conservative. Some freepers here like Devore and seem to hate Palin for the endorsement but apparently, she was right as he seems to not have any class. There is enough classlessness in the country and with the leftists. Do we want to become them as well when it comes to this issue?

As i look at the absentee ballot, i think i’m going for the least liberal of three candidates and trust me, i don’t particularly like Carly due to HP.


15 posted on 05/07/2010 11:07:18 PM PDT by solar Republic
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To: South40

I have been to Palin rallies in 08 and Tea Parties in 09-10. I have been praying for our country and I have high hopes for November.

The in-fighting in the Republican party gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.


16 posted on 05/07/2010 11:08:01 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: jveritas

my problem with that is that this turned into a 24/7 Palin Bash marathon

She supported a friend. She is loyal.

If I see one more person call her a RINO im going to pull the hair out of my head.


17 posted on 05/07/2010 11:10:13 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

She’s a RINO baldy.


18 posted on 05/07/2010 11:12:35 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

You’re apparently new to politics. The “infighting” as you call it happens each election cycle and will continue to happen in the future. DeVore has supporters who do not want hom to drop out nor should he. Even if he had no chance of winning it is a primary and his presence in the race forces his opponent to turn further right to get the nomination. This is some pretty basic stuff and something you should have known before you created your ridiculous vanity.


19 posted on 05/07/2010 11:13:00 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Thats the Problem your looking at the Republican Party, stay with the Conservative Party and get your eyes off of Man.


20 posted on 05/07/2010 11:13:30 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Your whole political world seems to revolve around Palin. Grow up or you are going to be greatly disappointed.
21 posted on 05/07/2010 11:13:31 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: South40

This is Palin’s party,

Our enemies within the party are elites in Washington D.C.

We have to gain access to leadership before we change the party.

this other stuff is backround noice at best and hurting our cause at worse.


22 posted on 05/07/2010 11:15:02 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: wardaddy

I admit to being in the process of getting informed on this race, but this interview impressed me. Is there a reason to distrust Fiorina?

http://www.redcounty.com/us-senate-watch-interview-with-carly-fiorina


23 posted on 05/07/2010 11:15:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jveritas

How am I going to be disappointed ?


24 posted on 05/07/2010 11:15:38 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Two candidates battling it out in the California primary does not hurt the country or the conservative cause. You need to get a clue.


25 posted on 05/07/2010 11:16:45 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

“I just think that conservatives shouldn’t turn on Sarah.”

IMHO, Sarah Palin doesn’t owe John McCain a damn thing... He owes her for the votes he got that he wouldn’t have otherwise. As for that lesbian whore Carly, sarha needs to pick her friends a little better... A little research on Palin’s part could have prevented this.

We don’t advance the cause at all by getting rid of one liberal and installing another in their place. It’s actually a step backwards.


26 posted on 05/07/2010 11:16:49 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: South40

No but the attacks on Sarah Palin for her own supporters do...


27 posted on 05/07/2010 11:17:19 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
You will know when the time comes and Palin would not even run for President.
28 posted on 05/07/2010 11:17:40 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: solar Republic

Not that I like Carly either, but she isn’t the one who ruined HP, it was done before she got there.


29 posted on 05/07/2010 11:18:16 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (Girlfriend sugested I use pelosi in place of swear words, A good idea, I think)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
This is Palin’s party,

You better go to sleep and stop embarassing yourself with idiotic statements.

30 posted on 05/07/2010 11:19:38 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
I just think that conservatives shouldn’t turn on Sarah.

I think conservatives shouldn't "turn on" each other....aside from healthy debates. However, we must have a process where these battles are fought. Sarah Palin should be subject to the same scrutiny and criticism as all other "representatives" whether they occupy an office, speak for us or vie for our votes. Sarah Palin has her "warts" like any other fallible human being. Just because I like her, doesn't mean I think she is irreproachable.

31 posted on 05/07/2010 11:20:38 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
No but the attacks on Sarah Palin for her own supporters do...

Again, youu need to buy a clue. Palin has popularity which translates into political power within the party. There's nothing wrong with conservatives expecting her to represent their views and letting her know when she doesn't.

32 posted on 05/07/2010 11:21:37 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: Lancey Howard

I don’t get the big deal on her.

She was a gender pick at HP and failed.

She is a PC NeoCon at best.

Now she is gender pick for Kali senate...

let them fight it out....I don’t see why Palin figured to jump the primary on this hunch

how much better are RINO senators?


33 posted on 05/07/2010 11:21:52 PM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
This is Palin’s party

Nonsense, but even if it were, so what?

She doesn't control who I vote for, and I think all this endorsement nonsense has gotten real stale.

34 posted on 05/07/2010 11:59:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Lancey Howard
No. There is no reason to distrust her. I have spoken with her several times. I will speak with her again next week. She is the real deal.

The reasons for opposing her that have been posted in this forum are specious and frequently taken out of context.

As an example, one person cited me to a speech she gave more than two years ago in support of McCain. In particular this poster was concerned about her favorable reference to McCain's support of cap and trade. For gosh sakes folks, since she was speaking in support of the man, she had to say something nice and, apart from his honorable war record, there's not much there. I know for a fact that she would vote against either Waxman-Markey or Kerry-Boxer.

Another poster cited me to the website for her foundation, claiming that it shows she is a "progressive." Not being familiar with the foundation, I followed his advice and investigated it. I urge you all to do the same. My conclusion was that the person who referred me to it does not know the definition of the term "progressive." The foundation supports, with its own money, not taxpayer money, microfinance in the developing world, women in the Muslim world, leadership training in Africa, and female entreprenuers. These are worthy causes for private charity. Her support of them with her own money does not mean she would vote in favor of the use of public dollars for those purposes.

At one of my meetings with her, I pointed out that we have a real problem with the Endangered Species Act. She promptly ordered up a position paper on it. Most Freepers would heartily agree with it.

There are reasons she has been endorsed by Sarah and by major pro-life organizations: she is a conservative and the conservative with the best chance to beat Campbell. DeVore has little money and very little chance of beating Campbell. However, if he wins, i will vote for him. A more likely result is that his false charges that Fiorina is not a conservative will divide the conservative base and lead to a primary win for Campbell.

35 posted on 05/08/2010 12:16:35 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: p. henry

Just an observation....
First Sarah was the shiny object that invited attack from the left... rabid vicious attack.
Now it seems that Sarah is being proffered as the “shiny object” for conservatives to attack.
Interesting.....
The left always wins by making us fight amongst ourselves. Reagan understood that.


36 posted on 05/08/2010 12:21:59 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I just think that conservatives shouldn’t turn on Sarah.
- - — - - —
In your world I guess you have to agree with everything your candidate does. I can support Sarah and also support Chuck DeVore. We fight for our conservatives in CA. They are an endangered species.


37 posted on 05/08/2010 12:38:04 AM PDT by excopconservative
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To: Lancey Howard

Is there a reason to distrust Fiorina?
- ———
To start when asked about the stimulus, she said that the stimulus didn’t work because it wasn’t big enough. That’s a progressives answer.

Her initial reaction to the AZ illegal immigration law was that there seemed to be a racial component to it.

When asked who her favorite senators were she praised Diane Feinstein and John McCain.

Probably the best insight can be obtained from the people she managed at HP. Many seem to detest her and blame her for many of HPs problems. The fall campaign if she gets the nomination will be a series of HP based attacks on her leadership skills, decision making, and her methods of dealing with subordinates. They will label her as “Fired-CEO” and expect Boxer to do ads like “HP fired her, why should we hire her?” She will not be able to defend herself against so many accusers. DeVore can only be attacked on his voting record which they will say is too conservative for CA. He is very comfortable defending his voting record.


38 posted on 05/08/2010 12:53:50 AM PDT by excopconservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
This is Palin’s party

Take some advice from some of the older and wiser members of this forum, friend, and believe me when I tell you that that this is not "Palin's Party."

Now, she has rightfully earned her status and respect up until this point, but she, like anyone else, can also squander it, and like any system of falsification, it can be squandered much faster than it can be earned.

Sarah would be well advised to dwell on some of the criticism, and make no mistake, even her approach to that will say something about her character.

39 posted on 05/08/2010 1:19:08 AM PDT by csense
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
The in-fighting in the Republican party gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

Well stated. And courageous post. Maybe you'll have time to support Palin in 2012, she needs people like you with those attributes. Some people here believe just supporting conservative candidates, whatever the situation, is the way to get conservatives elected in the long run. I largely agree, though sometimes we just have to make exceptions. But everyone can disagree on that, none of us will always agree with everyone else. But you are right that a big risk going forward for conservatives is our propensity to eat out own. Viscously. Palin is the high profile target at the moment, but this sort of stuff is habit forming, and will continue. Its ridiculous and self-defeating. Save the fire for RINOs, the Republican Establishment and the Dims. Otherwise it'll be Romney ... or some other RINO in 2012.

40 posted on 05/08/2010 1:28:35 AM PDT by militanttoby
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To: Loud Mime

Devore already knows it is something to consider at some point, he will probably want to see how the debate and this endorsement turn out, as far as creating movement in the polls, before he is willing to make any decision.


41 posted on 05/08/2010 2:05:36 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: jveritas
The primaries are created so the candidates battle it out and then there is one winner. What is your problem with that?

The problem is that the openly proabortion, openly, pro-homo, and gay marriage, and rabidly anti gun, Tom Campbell looks like the winner at this point if Fiorina cannot gain the few points needed to take him down.

This race is close to ending, Devore isn't going anywhere and is way in the back (he never left there), and the pro life/NRA member, Fiorina is about 4 to 7 points behind Campbell

42 posted on 05/08/2010 2:14:02 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: solar Republic

I’m in california and i don’t like any of the candidates for senate or governor.

On this point, I agree. Therefore, as a CA "decline to state" I am going to exercise my opportunity to vote against Boxer twice. First in the primary, where I will vote for Mickey Kaus, and second in the general where I will vote for whomever is the GOP nominee. I will thoroughly enjoy this exercise.

43 posted on 05/08/2010 3:22:27 AM PDT by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
my problem with that is that this turned into a 24/7 Palin Bash marathon She supported a friend. She is loyal. If I see one more person call her a RINO im going to pull the hair out of my head.

She supported a friend RINO. How many does that make?

44 posted on 05/08/2010 3:33:18 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
In other words...

"Leave Sarah alone...."

45 posted on 05/08/2010 3:33:40 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

primary is June 8

initial vanity didn’t give readers much solid information ... so i am adding that small pebble


46 posted on 05/08/2010 4:43:00 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

who did you campaign for in the recent OHIO primary? what’d ya do for him?


47 posted on 05/08/2010 4:44:14 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: excopconservative

Of course you have links to all these statements... don’t you?

- JP


48 posted on 05/08/2010 5:39:12 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("Every time a Democrat mocks Sarah Palin, an independent gets its wings." - JP)
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To: South40

Obviously, the republicans do not follow Sarah blindly - - can’t say as much about the Democrat Cult.


49 posted on 05/08/2010 5:55:13 AM PDT by Loud Mime (The Constitutional Initial Point - - Initialpoints.net)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I have an idea for you: Why don’t you tell the Rockefeller Republican (Campbell) and the McCain Republican (Fiorina) to BUZZ OFF? I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA. GET RID OF YOUR DEM GOVERNOR AND DO SOME GOOD WORK IN YOUR OWN STATE — BEFORE YOU TRY TO HELP ME IN CALIFORNIA.


50 posted on 05/08/2010 6:05:48 AM PDT by sruleoflaw
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