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'Magical Thinking' About Islands an Illusion? Biologist Refutes Conventional Thinking on Evolution
Science Daily ^ | 07/08/2010

Posted on 07/08/2010 8:14:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Long before TV's campy Fantasy Island, the isolation of island communities has touched an exotic and magical core in us. Darwin's fascination with the Galapagos island chain and the evolution of its plant and animal life is just one example.

Think of the extensive lore surrounding island-bred creatures like Komodo dragons, dwarf elephants, and Hobbit-sized humans. Conventional wisdom has it that they -- and a horde of monster-sized insects -- are all products of island evolution.

But are they?

Dr. Shai Meiri of Tel Aviv University's Department of Zoology says "yes," they are a product of evolution, but nothing more than one would expect to see by "chance," citing research that shows there's nothing extraordinary about evolutionary processes on islands. He and his colleagues have conducted a number of scientific studies comparing evolutionary patterns of island and mainland ecosystems, and the results refute the idea that islands operate under different, "magical" rules.

Man bites evolutionary dog

"My findings are a bit controversial for some evolutionary biologists," says Dr. Meiri, the author of several papers and essays on island evolution. His research is based on statistical models he developed.

"There is a tendency to believe that big animals become very small on islands, and small animals become very big, due to limited resources or lack of competition. I've shown that this is just not true, at least not as a general rule. Evolution operates on islands no differently than anywhere else."

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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: biology; creationism; evolution; galapagos; godsgravesglyphs; originofspecies; upchuckdarwin

1 posted on 07/08/2010 8:14:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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In a recent study reported in Global Ecology and Biogeography, Dr. Meiri and his colleagues looked at a theoretical optimum body size towards which mammals are expected to grow, on both island communities and on the mainland.

“Contemporary evolutionary thinking maintains that smaller island mammals will rapidly grow larger towards the optimal size, while bigger animals will rapidly shrink due to the constraints of competition on the islands. The researchers found that island isolation per se does not really affect the evolutionary rate, the rates of diversification of species, or the rate at which body size shifts in populations of island and mainland animals.

Employing their own statistical tools incorporating large data sets that compared body sizes on various islands and on mainland communities, Dr. Meiri and his colleagues found no such tendency for bizarrely-sized animals to develop on islands. “We concluded that the evolution of body sizes is as random with respect to ‘isolation’ as on the rest of the planet. This means that you can expect to find the same sort of patterns on islands and on the mainland.”

Dr. Meiri attributes our widely held misperceptions about “dragons and dwarfs” to the fact that people tend to notice the extremes more if they are found on islands.


2 posted on 07/08/2010 8:15:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

to read later


3 posted on 07/08/2010 8:16:18 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: ElayneJ

Me too. The title seems to have caused a jam in my cranium.


4 posted on 07/08/2010 8:20:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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... his colleagues have conducted a number of scientific studies comparing evolutionary patterns of island and mainland ecosystems ...

And of what exactly what do “evolutionary patterns” consist. Fossil records, earth cores, ????

5 posted on 07/08/2010 8:22:20 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: SeekAndFind
our widely held misperceptions about “dragons and dwarfs” to the fact that people tend to notice the extremes more if they are found on islands.

Or to the fact that we kill them when we find them on the mainland.

6 posted on 07/08/2010 8:25:48 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: SeekAndFind
But, you gotta watch those islands...put too much weight on either end and it's liable to tip over.../sarc


islandtippers

7 posted on 07/08/2010 8:27:08 PM PDT by FrankR ( If we don't stand up to tyranny, the tyrants win, and we're enslaved.)
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And of what exactly what do “evolutionary patterns” consist.

The entire set of NATIONAL GEOGRAPHICS MAGAZINES from 1960-2000.

8 posted on 07/08/2010 8:28:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: UCANSEE2

The entire set of NATIONAL GEOGRAPHICS MAGAZINES from 1960-2000.


I knew I made a mistake when I gave them to the Boy Scout paper drive.


9 posted on 07/08/2010 8:38:19 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: SeekAndFind

So King Kong IS possible! Woo-hoo!!


10 posted on 07/08/2010 8:52:04 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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All this is welcome news for those vacationing on islands as now they know they won't get any bigger than they normally would eating rich foods and knocking back vast quantities of cheap booze, their rapid evolution following the normal path from guest to pest.
11 posted on 07/09/2010 5:25:18 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Thanks SeekAndFind.
Dr. Shai Meiri of Tel Aviv University's Department of Zoology says "yes," they are a product of evolution, but nothing more than one would expect to see by "chance," citing research that shows there's nothing extraordinary about evolutionary processes on islands. He and his colleagues have conducted a number of scientific studies comparing evolutionary patterns of island and mainland ecosystems, and the results refute the idea that islands operate under different, "magical" rules... "There is a tendency to believe that big animals become very small on islands, and small animals become very big, due to limited resources or lack of competition. I've shown that this is just not true, at least not as a general rule. Evolution operates on islands no differently than anywhere else."
"When will you humans learn that 'size doesn't matter'?" -- the talking dog in MiB
  • When Animals Evolve On Islands, Size Doesn't Matter | Science Daily | 11-8-2007 | Imperial College London | Posted on 11/08/2007 2:05:43 PM PST by blam -- ...Dr Shai Meiri..., who carried out the work with Professor Andy Purvis and Natalie Cooper from the College's Department of Life Sciences... concluded that although there does appear to be a weak correlation between the size of a mammal and how its size then evolves in an island habitat, this reflects some groups' specific tendencies towards gigantism or dwarfism, and not the general course of evolution.
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12 posted on 07/09/2010 8:59:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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Fantasies about island habitats and the animals that live there are best left for movies, TV shows, and fantasy novels, he adds

Ah, but sometimes fantasy can become reality . . . .

13 posted on 07/09/2010 1:07:38 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Evolution operates on islands no differently than anywhere else

Well my my my. Isn't this just a grand surprise? Whoda thunk?

14 posted on 07/09/2010 3:41:49 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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I think he’s wrong about leaving it for the movies, TV, and fantasy novels...


15 posted on 07/09/2010 9:10:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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