Oh -- and you might want to get a little background from THIS page as well.
Posted on 12/17/2010 7:18:44 PM PST by B_Simons
Sorry if I'm not allowed to post this sort of thread, but I'd rather ask direct questions than interpret answers to other questions an apply them to my own.
I'm from the UK and for school work over the holidays I've got to find and explain/counter arguments for and against a political issue from another country, and I know that healthcare reform is a big one in America at the moment so I picked the easy one.
I've had good experiences with our NHS, and without it I would either be dead or my family would be deeply in debt due to my medical history (liver failure, mainly, which required a transplant). I also have asthma and as I'm 18 and still in full time education my prescribed inhalers are free. My family isn't very wealthy, my dad died when I was young from cancer (luckily his insurance paid off the remainder of the mortgage and a small amount of other debts) and my mum doesn't have a well paying job (below the national mean wage). We live modestly but don't have very financial problems.
So my questions are:
What, exactly is the problem with nationalized/socialized healthcare?
If the problem is due to it being paid for by tax increases, do you expect the increases to be larger or smaller than your current insurance cost?
Do you think it's 'fair' that people who cannot afford health insurance and have expensive medical issues should have to choose between suffering and large amounts of debt?
Do you think the quality of healthcare will improve/worsen with NHC?
Sorry if this thread isn't allowed or isn't in the right place (never used a forum like this before)
Many thanks, Brendan
My standard IB4TZ post
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Sung to the tune of “Oh! Susanna, don’t you cry for me.” “
.... “Oh, no Bama, please don’t lie to me... for I’m off to Free Republic with a laptop on my knee.”
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2073903/posts?page=30#30
>>43% of doctors polled in the US have stated that they WILL leave the practice if Obamacare is implemented.<<
43% is way to low in your reply.
Yup, that will make health care esier to get here.
Video: ObamaCare Causing 74% Of Doctors To Retire, Quit, Or Work Part-Time
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2642428/posts
“Homosexuality is a mental, pychological, and spiritual disease.”
I’m not going to argue about this but it’s none of my business if they have a ‘disease’ or not. If it were cerebral palsy I’d still be friends with them
Thanks for the links guys. Doesn’t seem like I’m gonna get my questions answered but I’ll make sure to read them tonight or tomorrow.
And what the hell is a zot, lol
ok freedom and liberty are brought up a lot, what freedom would you be losing? the freedom to choose your treatment?
what do you think of our tax rates at the moment? http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/it.htm (second table)
Looks like my posts are taking a while to go through again. It’s just gone 6am here so I’m off to bed. If the thread’s here in the morning I’ll respond and answer any questions I can.
Thanks again for the links and information.
Trolls always do.
I agree 100%... even if this is a troll, there may be some who come in here to stir us up... but some of those that actually read the legitimate replies might actually let some of it sink in and open their mind up to reality (fat chance, but there is still a chance)... not saying this individual is a troll, I am still curious about that ..
Bikk
lol! ;)
If you’re not a troll... you have come to the right place for answers... BTW, a ZOT is being banned from FreeRepublic.
I hope that some of the information posted is sinking in, there is a lot of information posted, some of it I didnh’t even know, and I’m American (but been out of country for 13 years :p)... I am learning how the whole shenanigans is working out now myself.
Bikk
It do.
Oh -- and you might want to get a little background from THIS page as well.
IBTZ. I haven’t been for a while.
B_Simons,
You, sir, are a liar.
N00bie pro-homo pro-national-health-care troll zot
“What, exactly is the problem with nationalized/socialized healthcare?”
LOL, you are such a liar about being British.
IF you were truly from the UK, you’d know the answer to this question cupcake.
Let’s see: Waiting list to see primary care physician, doctor tells you to take meds rather than actually do work on say a wrenched back that requires chiropractic work and then shuffles you out the door as quickly as possible, rushed work that does not diagnose or fix what is wrong, shoddy rushed surgeries, impossibly long waiting lists for those same rush job surgeries, RATIONED HEALTH CARE “Are you in the last 5 years of your life?” questions before doing anything.
“The group has decided that the decisions best for YOUR LIFE and health..” your health decisions are no longer your own, but in the hands of some drooling moronic know nothing who doesn’t give a flying leap about your health, only his bottom line.
And treating you hurts his bottom line.
Thank you. I don’t care who or what the OP is. I post what I think. No response or a lame response doesn’t help him or his position.
He's dead, Jim.
ZWOT -- in a British accent
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