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Agenda 21 - What Is It? Apparently is is a plan to reduce the population
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Posted on 06/22/2011 12:44:33 PM PDT by TEXOKIE

Several people have become interested in a quite controversial topic called "AGENDA 21." They have requested being on a ping list for this topic.

While I do not have time to do a thorough treatment of this subject, nor am I in any way an expert, I am willing at least for a time,to ping people as I run across articles which might pertain to this concern.

It might be good to start with an examination of just what it is or might be.

To kick this discussion and exploration off,I did a Google search (just for fun) on "Agenda 21." There were a number of YouTube clips and various blogger links which surfaced in answer to the query.

The bottom line of this Agenda appears to be the plot, plan, and preparation of some very evil people (ie the UN and others) to reduce the population so that the Power Elite can control the people more easily.

Here are some of the links:

Dr. Stan Monteith and Orlean Koehle May 31, 2011 "UN Agenda 21 depopulation" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVS15Yzx1BE

NWO Observer Agenda 21 - Depopulation Agenda (2009) http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/agenda-21-depopulation-agenda-2009/

Agenda 21...The "Planned" Depopulation Project...It's Happening at Stealth Speed...Right Before Your Eyes! SadInAmerica's Blog 4/11/2011

http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/6265

Other submissions of some better/more reliable sources and/or refutations are welcome.


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I am new to this topic, and am not real sure of what I think. I am willing to be educated about all sides of it.

Please note that I will not be seeking to reply to every post.

1 posted on 06/22/2011 12:44:39 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: NewHampshireDuo; driftdiver; Ratman83; Robert A. Cook, PE; truthguy; libertarian27; cripplecreek; ..

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2 posted on 06/22/2011 12:46:38 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: NewHampshireDuo; driftdiver; Ratman83; Robert A. Cook, PE; truthguy; libertarian27; cripplecreek; ..

Ping


3 posted on 06/22/2011 12:46:56 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: TEXOKIE

Sorry for the double ping.


4 posted on 06/22/2011 12:48:00 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: TEXOKIE

Bump!


5 posted on 06/22/2011 12:48:49 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: TEXOKIE
That's why they don't want viable energy source of any kind.

Cheap energy = prosperity for the masses

Expensive energy = poverty and death for the masses

"Green" energy takes more energy to produce than you get back out of it. Wind energy is hundreds of times more expensive than 'fossil' energy.

6 posted on 06/22/2011 12:49:58 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: TEXOKIE

If you did deeply enough you’ll find that Maurice Strong was one of the main originators of the Agenda 21 idea. He has been pretty open about his desire to eliminate something like two thirds of the population on the north American continent. He’s also a fan of forced abortion and forced sterilization.

Do some digging around on him.


7 posted on 06/22/2011 12:51:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: TEXOKIE

It’s a plan to only reduce Western culture.


8 posted on 06/22/2011 12:51:24 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama for among other things , violating the War Powers Act.)
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To: TEXOKIE
Here are more links/stories to a reputable source on this topic...
9 posted on 06/22/2011 12:52:15 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Jobs? Nope! Economy? Nope! Disarm the U.S? Yep! Impeach the treasonous Marxist Muslim usurper bast)
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To: TEXOKIE
Look, the ever expanding bloated government would probably like to see half the U.S. population dead...

They've looted the treasury, they've looted Social Security, they nearly destroyed the economy, millions out of work etc, etc...Government now sees the U.S. population as heavy luggage, a burden, and problem which needs to be dealt with.

No joke.

10 posted on 06/22/2011 12:52:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TEXOKIE

So, they kill off the masses, and those of us working to pay the bills and put food on the table, and who is gonna take care of them? God knows, they can’t take care of themselves....

Evil Bastards!!! I say depopulate government!!


11 posted on 06/22/2011 12:53:36 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Jobs? Nope! Economy? Nope! Disarm the U.S? Yep! Impeach the treasonous Marxist Muslim usurper bast)
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To: TEXOKIE
I googled it and the first link to come up was the UN website itself here.

http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/

12 posted on 06/22/2011 12:53:53 PM PDT by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: Lucky9teen

I sware I’ve had ringing in my ears ever since they installed the ‘smart’ meter on my house.....


13 posted on 06/22/2011 12:55:55 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( Ft. Lauderdale Florida (D-20))
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To: TEXOKIE

Well in the case of America, at least white America, we don’t need any help from the UN reducing our population, we are doing quite a fine job on our own. According to the most recent census, the Non-Hispanic Caucasian birth rate was barely enough to break even, and all the population growth was from Immigration, both legal and illegal, and minority birth rates.


14 posted on 06/22/2011 12:57:27 PM PDT by apillar
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To: NoLibZone
"If we don't change, our species will not survive... Frankly, we may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrial civilization to collapse."

-Maurice Strong quoted in the September 1, 1997 edition of National Review magazine.


15 posted on 06/22/2011 12:57:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek
“Isn’t it the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

-Maurice Strong
16 posted on 06/22/2011 12:58:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: TEXOKIE

Here is a lengthy video of a MAD DOG LIBERAL lady addressing a Tea Party group. Although she is of another stripe, her insights are valuable, since she works as a property appraiser, and has special knowledge of how diabolical this plan is. Give her a chance to enlighten you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CEHWsdimVO4

Another good link:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-the-soros-sponsored-agenda-21-a-hidden-plan-for-world-government-yes-only-it-is-not-hidden/


17 posted on 06/22/2011 12:59:33 PM PDT by weeder
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To: dragnet2
Government now sees the U.S. population as heavy luggage, a burden, and problem which needs to be dealt with.

Especially the baby boomers. There are too many of them to care for and pay SS to, and they expect too much. This is ironic, because the baby boomers are largely responsible for the growth of the many government programs that will result in their early deaths.

18 posted on 06/22/2011 12:59:38 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: dragnet2

They just have to be careful about who they kill. They can’t kill those who work and pay taxes. They also have to be careful and not kill customers. Oh, what to do!


19 posted on 06/22/2011 1:00:46 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: cripplecreek; TEXOKIE
If you did deeply enough you’ll find that Maurice Strong was one of the main originators of the Agenda 21 idea. He has been pretty open about his desire to eliminate something like two thirds of the population on the north American continent. He’s also a fan of forced abortion and forced sterilization.

Hey - two-thirds isn't so bad, when you consider than the "Guidestones Preservation Foundation" wants just 500 million "worthy and eligible human beings" to survive, and the rest of the 6 billion+ world population to be "harvested for their protein and their water".

20 posted on 06/22/2011 1:00:51 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: TEXOKIE

Agenda 21 is an all encompassing plan for world control. If you read through it’s mission or proclamation, you’ll see it’s tentacles have already reached into areas of American’s lives that you’d never expect. The control the “Agenda” weilds already includes control over U.S. government lands like parks, bodies of water and the ocean.

It’s probably too late to stop it’s encroachment on American sovereignty with the people that are in power here now.


21 posted on 06/22/2011 1:01:33 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

Ha, I was just listening to Glenn Beck’s radio show about Obama’s Rural Counci, which essentially put’s Obama’s federal regulators in charge of enacting the Agenda 21/ Wildlands project in rural areas of the country.

I had this in my file regarding sustainability, the buzz word of the Agenda 21:

This from a web site that is called the American Policy Center:

The best way to understand what Sustainable Development actually is can be found by discovering what is NOT sustainable.

According to the UN’s Biodiversity Assessment Report, items for our everyday lives that are NOT sustainable include: Ski runs, grazing of livestock, plowing of soil, building fences, industry, single family homes, paved and tarred roads, logging activities, dams and reservoirs, power line construction, and economic systems that fail to set proper value on the environment (capitalism, free markets).

Maurice Strong, Secretary General of the UN’s Rio Earth Summit in 1992 said, “. .. Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class — involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work air-conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.”


22 posted on 06/22/2011 1:02:20 PM PDT by Eva
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To: TEXOKIE

I didn’t delve too deep in this Agenda21 stuff either until a couple of weeks ago....everything “sustainable” seems to be connected to the UN policy Agenda21 and ICLEI. There’s subgroups all over the place with cute sounding names, it reminds me of SEIU.

ICLEI seems to be one of the big players in this scheme, check out their website:
http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=1387&region=NA
(this link is to communities that have signed up for ICLEI, they are all over the place, not just in California,etc.)

There are many groups and private citizens getting once ICLEI affiliated communities off the list.

It’s a good idea to check with your town/city to see if they are doing any of this UN generated “sustainability”. You probably won’t see it unless you are looking for it...they also will go under different names but still have Agenda21/ICLEI affiliation.


23 posted on 06/22/2011 1:02:27 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: TEXOKIE

Please add me to your list. Thanks in advance.


24 posted on 06/22/2011 1:02:49 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: cripplecreek

We’ll start with Maurice first.


25 posted on 06/22/2011 1:03:16 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly.

It’s why the left is willing to abandon women and gay rights in its support of the pre medieval religion, Islam.


26 posted on 06/22/2011 1:03:43 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama for among other things , violating the War Powers Act.)
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To: TEXOKIE

If you are truly new to this topic, you have some work to do to catch up. Check out Agenda 21 Wildlands project, Max Strong, Gateway transportation corridors, bio-diversity, sustainable development.

You need to be familiar with all those things before you can hope to understand what this is all about. Oh, and read the UN documents on Agenda 21. It’s not just a conspiracy theory. The documents are available on the web.


27 posted on 06/22/2011 1:05:55 PM PDT by Eva
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To: expatpat
"the baby boomers are largely responsible for the growth of the many government programs that will result in their early deaths." geez
28 posted on 06/22/2011 1:07:08 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: TEXOKIE

One of these days—soon—folks are gonna start catching on to all the bs that’s been st up for years...and a mass panic will ensue...


29 posted on 06/22/2011 1:07:18 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Lucky9teen
I say depopulate government!!

Amen to that!

30 posted on 06/22/2011 1:07:49 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: NoLibZone

Islam is a socialistic “religion” anyway.


31 posted on 06/22/2011 1:08:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Eliminate Maurice Strong and dig for him.


32 posted on 06/22/2011 1:09:10 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: TEXOKIE

Here is a great website I discovered when I started waking up to the globalist crap: www.green-agenda.com.

It gives a great history, names names, where its all going, “sustainability”, etc.


33 posted on 06/22/2011 1:09:18 PM PDT by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: Lucky9teen; TEXOKIE

Some more info and counter-activism here:

http://www.freedom21.org


34 posted on 06/22/2011 1:10:44 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: TEXOKIE

The population controllers have always been with us. What’s new is that we have a President and an administration that agrees with them.

Here’s a good brief read:

http://www.radioliberty.com/pca.htm


35 posted on 06/22/2011 1:13:38 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: Yooper4Life

Attend your local schoolboard meetings (or run for office).

Look out for the “International Baccalaureate” program,
it is an indoctrination curricula for Agenda 21.


36 posted on 06/22/2011 1:15:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>>> That’s why they don’t want viable energy source of any kind.

You could substitute a lot of things with ‘viable energey source’ in this quote. For example,

That is why they don’t want a well armed and well educated populace for self governance,

That is why they don’t want a true capitalism of any kind, that has shown the best model to promote well being and liberty,

etc. you get the idea.


37 posted on 06/22/2011 1:15:59 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: expatpat
This is ironic, because the baby boomers are largely responsible for the growth of the many government programs that will result in their early deaths.

Check your facts.

The other Texas president, LBJ, and his socialist "Great Society" programs, Medicare, Medicaid, environmental protection, aid to education, and his "War on Poverty...

LBJ was born in 1908.

38 posted on 06/22/2011 1:16:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Eva

They want to take us back to the Stone Age.

Thanks for alerting me to some of the new buzzwords.

Prolifers have been fighting these vultures for decades.


39 posted on 06/22/2011 1:17:25 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: TEXOKIE

Agenda 21 is a UN program. All of the materials that are sent to cities originate from UN offices. Why do we have a UN? They are going to be in charge when the New World Order gets launched. So if you wish to bring it all to a halt, help GET THE US OUT OF THE UN and it will all die a quiet death. It is a waste of resources to fight Agenda 21 by itself.

If there is a tree that needs pruning every year, do you want to call out the tree trimmer every year to cut four branches or would you rather a lumberjack cut the tree down?

A clearer view of the United Nations and its intentions.

The creation of the League of Nations was the first international attempt to start a New World Order. Since President Wilson wouldn’t join, it failed. Then came along the United Nations which Alger Hiss, a charter member of the Council on Foreign Relations coaxed us to join in 1945.

World regionalism is spelled out clearly in the U.N. Charter, Chapters 8 through 11, using such terms as “regional arrangements, intergovernmental agreements, and metropolital areas.” Advocates of one-world socialism have already divided the world into 85 regions for policing purposes. In adopting the U.N. Charter, Congress has established the Charter as the Supreme Law of the land (Fugi v. State of California, 1950-52).

“The old world order changed when this war-storm broke. The old international order passed away as suddenly, as unexpectedly, and as completely as if it had been wiped out by a gigantic flood, by a great tempest, or by a volcanic eruption. The old world order died with the setting of that day’s sun and a new world order is being born while I speak, with birth-pangs so terrible that it seems almost incredible that life could come out of such fearful suffering and such overwhelming sorrow.” — Nicholas Murray Butler, in an address delivered before the Union League of Philadelphia, Nov. 27, 1915

“The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world.” -M. C. Alexander, Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, in a subscription letter for the periodical International Conciliation (1919)

“If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment. If we are ever to approach that time, it will be after patient and persistent effort of long duration. The present international situation of mistrust and fear can only be corrected by a formula of equal status, continuously applied, to every phase of international contacts, until the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out of the minds of the people of all lands.” — Dr. Augustus O. Thomas, president of the World Federation of Education Associations (August 1927), quoted in the book “International Understanding: Agencies Educating for a New World”
(1931)

“... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people.” — H. G. Wells, in his book entitled “The New World Order” (1939)

“The term Internationalism has been popularized in recent years to cover an interlocking financial,
political, and economic world force for the purpose of establishing a World Government. Today
Internationalism is heralded from pulpit and platform as a ‘League of Nations’ or a ‘Federated Union’ to which the United States must surrender a definite part of its National Sovereignty. The World
Government plan is being advocated under such alluring names as the ‘New International Order,’ ‘The
New World Order,’ ‘World Union Now,’ ‘World Commonwealth of Nations,’ ‘World Community,’ etc. All the terms have the same objective; however, the line of approach may be religious or political according to the taste or training of the individual.” — excerpt from A Memorial to be Addressed to the House of Bishops and the House of Clerical and Lay Deputies of the Protestant Episcopal Church in General Convention (October 1940)

“In the first public declaration on the Jewish question since the outbreak of the war, Arthur Greenwood, member without portfolio in the British War Cabinet, assured the Jews of the United States that when victory was achieved an effort would be made to found a new world order based on the ideals of ‘justice and peace.’” -excerpt from article entitled “New World Order Pledged to Jews,” in the New York Times (October 1940)

All these are copied off of the Internet. Any doubts, dig them out for yourselves.


40 posted on 06/22/2011 1:19:00 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: TEXOKIE; Carry_Okie

Mark, you need to come on over here and give some insight.


41 posted on 06/22/2011 1:19:17 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Terry Mross
They can’t kill those who work and pay taxes. They also have to be careful and not kill customers.

Tax revenues have dramatically shrunk, millions with no jobs, had their hours cut, benefits slashed, lost homes, businesses, investments etc, etc...They have become a burden to government, a government who has already looted the American treasury, SS etc.

42 posted on 06/22/2011 1:21:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: B4Ranch
All these are copied off of the Internet. Any doubts, dig them out for yourselves.

And that my FRiend, is the wisest thing anyone can say these days. We've become far to reliant of what someone said and a lot of crap slides through that way.
43 posted on 06/22/2011 1:24:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: weeder

Okay explain to me why a Tea party group would be interested in supporting Agenda 21. I must not understand the Tea Party movement as well as I thought.


44 posted on 06/22/2011 1:24:09 PM PDT by redangus
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To: gunnyg

I’ve saw a story in the news recently. Some town was implementing the policies - it is all PC nonsense.
I think while we are busy fighting wars overseas we are losing the one here.
I think we have to be against Federal power on all levels, I think we are being used as fools for anti-constitutional agendas. They use wars on everything as an excuse to tighten down on us.
Recently I finally understood there is one difference in politicians. There are one’s for global governance and the ones against it. Unfortunately we have too many R’s that stand with the globalists. We have been used as suckers!


45 posted on 06/22/2011 1:25:37 PM PDT by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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To: TEXOKIE

thanks for posting this


46 posted on 06/22/2011 1:28:21 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: redangus

>>Okay explain to me why a Tea party group would be interested in supporting Agenda 21.<<

If you don’t fully examine environmental programs most of them look like they are a good idea too. Who is supporting Agenda 21? Specifically who?


47 posted on 06/22/2011 1:29:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: LibertyLA

You are right on about Federal power and its increase in controlling our lives.

Just wait until Obaminable Care is put into practice!

We must be vigilant. We must elect a person who is prolife and who will reduce Fedgov’s power over us!

(Her initials are S.P.)


48 posted on 06/22/2011 1:30:30 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: TEXOKIE
Agenda 21 In One Easy Lesson
49 posted on 06/22/2011 1:34:28 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Palladin
Just wait until Obaminable Care is put into practice!

Hmmm..I would say, either way...

The heath care, medical industry is in chaos, with prices going into the atmosphere...Millions having their health benefits slashed or completely eliminated...Tens of thousands having to declare bankruptcy, many if they still have equity, are losing their homes, to pay the bills... Medical bills they couldn't pay for if they lived to be 200 years old...

50 posted on 06/22/2011 1:36:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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