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Astronomy Picture of the Day -- Saturn's Hexagon Comes to Light
NASA ^ | January 22, 2012 | (see photo credit)

Posted on 01/21/2012 11:50:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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[Credit: Cassini Imaging Team, SSI, JPL, ESA, NASA]

1 posted on 01/21/2012 11:51:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 01/21/2012 11:53:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Verrrrrry interesting.

Nature forms a lot of hexagons. That has to be a clue to Saturn’s structure or composition.


3 posted on 01/22/2012 1:04:11 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

It’s been demonstrated in laboratories that it’s a result of fluid dynamics due to the difference in wind speeds at different latituds (Coriolis effect). The hexagon itself is a jet stream. The greater the difference in wind speeds in these experiments, the more sides seem to form.


4 posted on 01/22/2012 2:31:41 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: SunkenCiv

Click:YouTube:The Mystery Hexagon on Saturn

Certainly the most awesomely mysterious phenomena in the observable universe.

What is really mind-boggling is that the first glimpse of the hexagon was one that was only partial view taken by the Voyager space craft in a flyby of Saturn and its north pole on November 12, 1980.

The partial view of the hexagon must have driven them crazy with curiosity. These same scientists believed Saturn's north pole hexagon to be meteorlogically temporary in nature never expecting it to still be there twenty five years later.

5 posted on 01/22/2012 2:32:30 AM PST by lbryce (BHO:The bastard offspring of Satan and Medusa.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Fair enough. Is the number of sides always an even number? Anybody have a theory as to why the polygons form?


6 posted on 01/22/2012 2:39:11 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I’ve heard they’re like standing waves, anchored by pressure zones. Can’t really say, however. I’ve just done a little internet research myself.


7 posted on 01/22/2012 2:43:37 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Gotcha. It’s a really fascinating phenomenon, in any case. I wonder if it has any engineering applications?


8 posted on 01/22/2012 2:46:19 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: SunkenCiv
17 Second Version of Astronomy Picture of the Day Image
Click:YouTube:SATURN.Hexagon of winds on North Pole.avi
9 posted on 01/22/2012 2:56:10 AM PST by lbryce (BHO:The bastard offspring of Satan and Medusa.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder; Slings and Arrows; SunkenCiv; lbryce

I know some of you guys will greet this with a “facepalm” but try to look at it as a “blind squirrel finding a nut” (or in this case, a nut finding a nut.)

Richard Hoagland, for all his far out speculation, has documented this type of phenomenon not just 15 years ago on Saturn, but right here on Good Old Mother Earth.

Check out these links -

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane1.htm

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane2.htm

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane3.htm

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane4.htm

In this study, Hoagland does not stop at just documenting that the phenomenon exists, he explores the meteorology and underlying physics.


10 posted on 01/22/2012 3:06:09 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder; Slings and Arrows; SunkenCiv; lbryce

Corollary research on hyperD physics and the Sun -

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hyper_confirm.htm


11 posted on 01/22/2012 3:17:37 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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I’ve no doubt someone like Dr. Hoagland, a former NASA advisor, can find similar phenomenon such as this in nature. However, when he claimed comet Elenin generated a tetrahedral force field when it was simply an image compression artifact instead, I lost whatever remaining respect I had for him. Especially when at the time, so many easily-decieved people thought it represented a doomsday event. Comet Elenin disintigrated due to a CME, by the way. Hardly something that could threaten aliens so seemingly advanced that they can generate tetrahedral force fields. Have I said enough? I think so.


12 posted on 01/22/2012 3:31:36 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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I haven’t been listening to C2C for the last few years. I missed RCH’s comments on Elenin.

I point out the Earth meteorology for its similar patterns to those on Saturn, not because I have great faith in the author.


13 posted on 01/22/2012 3:41:57 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

I guess I was just venting, then.


14 posted on 01/22/2012 3:44:56 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I understand completely.

It bothers me to no end when significant facts are touted and then tainted when presented by people of questionable integrity and motive.

Some of Hoagland’s stuff in insightful, bordering on brilliant. Then, just as you’re about to give him kudos, he cuts an intellectual fart.


15 posted on 01/22/2012 3:52:36 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I see interesting geometrical patterns in nature all the time. Just take a walk to the beach and look around. Pennies stack perfectly when you throw them in a jar. It’s nature. Patterns happen. Could you imagine how confusing the universe would be if everything looked different and there were no patterns?


16 posted on 01/22/2012 3:57:09 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Pretty cool.


17 posted on 01/22/2012 5:05:04 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow.


18 posted on 01/22/2012 6:10:30 AM PST by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Hexagons are the stackable polygons with the largest area-to-surface ratio. So, whenever a maximum of compartment space with a minimum of material forms, it forms a hexagon. Many crystals are hexagonal as a result of this. Also, bee hives, seed compartments in many types of flowers, etc.

(*stackable polygons: two-dimensional shapes with linear edges which can fit together without forming gaps between them. Regular polygons with more sides have higher area-to-surface ratios, but do not fit together.)

Of course, stackable polygons make no sense when there’s only one.

The other place one finds hexagons in “nature” are rings of atoms forming cyclical molecules, such as hexose sugars. They don’t really exist as hexagons in nature, but only in schematics, but they can form hexagon images.

My guess is that there’s some form of periodicity happening in the weather where the wavelength is close enough to the 1/6 (or 1/3) of the diameter of the longitude at which it lies that the cloud formations maintain a resonance to it as they rotate around the planet. But what on Saturn that is, I would have no idea.


19 posted on 01/22/2012 6:46:53 AM PST by dangus
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To: CalvaryJohn

I’ve never seen a geometrical pattern on the beach. Pennies aren’t part of nature, and they don’t stack perfectly in a pickle jar. The patterns we see stand out precisely because they are different than the general chaos around them.


20 posted on 01/22/2012 7:47:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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