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Country Notes: Downtown In The Lost Cities of the Amazon
Peruvian Times ^ | Friday, March 16, 2012 | Nicholas Asheshov

Posted on 03/16/2012 3:11:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

...an article in The New York Times which reported on the discovery in Acre, only a few hours travel from the Madre de Dios Indians, of extensive, deep straight trenches, ridges and mounds dating back to pre-Columbian times, indicating a large, well-developed society.

This was just the latest evidence that the Amazon, or at least parts of it, was heavily populated by well-organized societies in much the same way as the high Andes were remodeled by the Tiahuanuco, the Chavin, the Chachapoyas, the Huari, and the Incas.

Over the past couple of decades the pre-history of the Americas has been revolutionized, setting off poison-tipped academic and ecological vendettas.

First of all, the Americas were populated much earlier, at least 33-35,000 years ago, double the time previously calculated. That is back to Neanderthal epochs.

Second, there were many more people here when Columbus arrived than was earlier thought. And, most important, the societies and nations of the Americas were much more sophisticated and structured than was previously understood. They were agriculturalists, not the war-whoopers of the movies. Their mode of life and agriculture had massive, long-term effects on the original pre-human forests. Fire was a basic control mechanism.

Today the evidence of genetics, linguistics and archaeology is clear that the Amazon was not just an impenetrable green hell populated by primitive hunters and fishermen eking out an unchanging, culturally marginal existence.

The same applies to North America. Here most of the descriptions of primitive Indians come from 18th and 19th century travelers who were seeing only the sorry leftovers of great nations that had been obliterated by smallpox, viral hepatitis, influenza and other European and African diseases.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: amazon; godsgravesglyphs
from FR topic "Strange Carvings Discovered In Amazon Jungle Using Google Earth".

Strange Carvings Discovered In Amazon Jungle Using Google Earth

1 posted on 03/16/2012 3:11:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Nice list here.

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2 posted on 03/16/2012 3:14:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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3 posted on 03/16/2012 3:24:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: SunkenCiv
First of all, the Americas were populated much earlier, at least 33-35,000 years ago, double the time previously calculated. That is back to Neanderthal epochs.

Anybody have any real evidence of that??

4 posted on 03/16/2012 3:46:57 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: SunkenCiv

“The same applies to North America. Here most of the descriptions of primitive Indians come from 18th and 19th century travelers who were seeing only the sorry leftovers of great nations that had been obliterated by smallpox, viral hepatitis, influenza and other European and African diseases.”

HALF-TRUTHS here...........

Yes, let’s look at North America.

Here is partial list of North American cities and civilizations that were ABANDONED about 300 years before Columbus:

Mesa Verde - Colorado

The Mound Cultures - Ohio

Cahokia - Mississippi River (near St. Louis)

Chaco Canyon - New Mexico

Bandelier - New Mexico


5 posted on 03/16/2012 3:56:08 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: varmintman

“Anybody have any real evidence of that??”

I have recently seen some articles about what might be evidence of it, but it is evidence of early European settlements, not settlements of immigrants from Asia. I will see if I can find the article, but it referred to stone tools that were identical to those made in Europe 30,000+ years ago.

And at least one of them was reported to have been made of a kind of flint that is only found in France. I would not say it is evidence, but it gives some good support to a theory of earlier settlements — by Europeans.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 5:09:29 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: varmintman

Here’s the article suggesting European settlement more than 20,000 years ago:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/new-evidence-suggests-stone-age-hunters-from-europe-discovered-america-7447152.html


7 posted on 03/16/2012 5:18:32 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: varmintman

50,000

http://www.archaeology.org/0605/abstracts/america.html


8 posted on 03/16/2012 7:48:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

%0K Years is well before any reasonable claim of modern humans on the planet.


9 posted on 03/17/2012 12:26:43 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

what is your evidence


10 posted on 03/17/2012 6:42:35 AM PDT by blam
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To: varmintman
"Anybody have any real evidence of that??"

They have found some trace evidence at Monte Verde in Chile that has been dated to over 33,000 years ago.

11 posted on 03/17/2012 7:08:44 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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