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Next from the EPA: Four-Gallon-Minimum Gas Purchases : For ATVs and Motorcycles-
pjmedia.com/tatler ^ | August 9th, 2012 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 08/12/2012 1:02:06 PM PDT by djone

The Environmental Protection Agency is going to require all consumers to buy at least four gallons of gasoline from certain gas pumps after the new E15 ethanol-gasoline blend is introduced into the market.(/)

The new regulation was revealed in an Aug. 1 letter to the American Motorcyclist Association, which expressed concern that the vast majority of Motorcycles and ATVs in use today aren’t designed to operate on E15 fuel and residual fuel from a pump that serves multiple blends might harm these tanks.

“The use of E15 will lower fuel efficiency and possibly cause premature engine failure,” Wayne Allard, AMA vice president for government relations, wrote in a June 20 letter to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson. “Use of E15 fuel voids many manufacturer warranties. In off-road engines, the effects can even be dangerous for users.”

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The EPA responded that it requires that retail stations with blender pumps either dispense E15 from a dedicated hose and nozzle if able or, in the case of E15 and E10 being dispensed from the same hose, require that at least four gallons of fuel be purchased to prevent vehicles and engines with smaller fuel tanks from being exposed to gasoline-ethanol blended fuels containing greater than 10 percent ethanol.
1 posted on 08/12/2012 1:02:12 PM PDT by djone
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I don’t know of any motorcycle that takes 4 gallons.


2 posted on 08/12/2012 1:09:45 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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The only country in the world that burns food for fuel....utter stupidity.....


3 posted on 08/12/2012 1:11:31 PM PDT by nikos1121
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In honor of the EPA I just dumped 4 gallons of gas on the ground. I am sure there will be those to say the world will now come to an end and we will all die.


4 posted on 08/12/2012 1:13:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

There is not a small scooter or moped that will take 4 gallons of fuel.


5 posted on 08/12/2012 1:14:38 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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Okay, so I pull up to a “certain gas pump” and pump one gallon of E15 and then stop. Now what? Will I be charged for four gallons?

What an incredibly ignorant regulation.


6 posted on 08/12/2012 1:15:32 PM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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So they will flock to local airports to get 100LL while it is still available before the EPA FUBAR's that too, of which they are on track to do.

The alternative is racing fuels or find a State that doesn't use Ethanol and get some exported from their ( Omaha ?), I hear there are some...

This maybe a hidden anti- 2 Stroke move, as those that still mix fuel and oil need to use it w/in 2 weeks in order for it to be "Fresh"... They usually make it in small batches, maybe less than 4 gallons...

7 posted on 08/12/2012 1:16:07 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: djone

This too shall pass. Once R/R get elected. In the mean time.

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=WI

Some

person posted this link the first time this story was posted.


8 posted on 08/12/2012 1:20:59 PM PDT by damncat
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Work-around...5 or 10 gallon gas cans.
Drive to the gas station in a car or truck, fill up gas can/cans and then drive back home and fill up the tank.

Furthermore, who drives an ATV to the gas station anyway?
Many are already filled in the manner I just described.

Idiots are in charge.

9 posted on 08/12/2012 1:26:25 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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We should have evicted all 535 the day they limited the amount of water I can flush. Can anyone tell me something that won’t be regulated 20 years from now (if we don’t have massive turnover in Congress and wind-down EPA, etc.)?


10 posted on 08/12/2012 1:26:34 PM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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Fuel for small engines goes bad after a couple of weeks. What are we supposed to do with the fuel that goes bad or the fuel left over after our chainsaw or lawnmower blows up?
11 posted on 08/12/2012 1:27:38 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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Arguing this with Obama’s EPA will be an exercise in futility. It’s time to get Obama out, and have some serious discussions about changing the EPA, starting with an end to ethanol in gasoline.


12 posted on 08/12/2012 1:35:07 PM PDT by pallis
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There it is... “Not only do we find it unacceptable for the EPA to mandate that everyone — including our members — buy minimum amounts of gas, but the EPA answer simply won’t work because of the sizes of many motorcycle and ATV gas tanks and the fact that off-highway riders take containers of gas with them on their trips, and most times those containers are much smaller than four gallons,” Allard said. And this... “The EPA has no business mandating how much gasoline Americans have to buy when filling up at the pump. What if a rider doesn’t have a motorcycle with a four gallon tank? Or if someone wants to fill a canister for their lawnmower or outboard boat engine, but it only holds 2 or 3 gallons?” Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) said today. Idiots are in charge at the EPA.
13 posted on 08/12/2012 1:35:20 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Like many Americans I own a weed eater. I have a two gallon gas can that I use only for that device due to the need to mix in two stroke motor oil.

Will the EPA mandate that two gallon cans can't be filled at a gas station?

14 posted on 08/12/2012 1:40:14 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Blitz, the nation’s largest manufacturer and distributor of 5-gallon gas cans for the consumer market, just declared bankruptcy.


15 posted on 08/12/2012 1:45:49 PM PDT by research99
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To: mountainlion
About 1 0z of xylene per gallon will significantly improve shelf life of gasoline.
16 posted on 08/12/2012 1:48:10 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Nachum; steelyourfaith

For your lists.


17 posted on 08/12/2012 1:52:43 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Furthermore, who drives an ATV to the gas station anyway?

I carry my 4 wheeler in the bed of the pickup and sometimes only it needs gas. If I fill the pickup, I can top off the 4 wheeler, but things don't always time out like that.

18 posted on 08/12/2012 1:53:15 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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About 1 0z of xylene per gallon will significantly improve shelf life of gasoline.

Got any mix for 60 octane fuel for my old tractor?

19 posted on 08/12/2012 1:54:41 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: djone

So what happens to the young person or the poor short of cash and close to home that needs a little gas to get home?


20 posted on 08/12/2012 1:55:41 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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