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Vanity - Phillip K. Dick's "The Man in the High Castle"

Posted on 11/22/2012 3:43:01 PM PST by Perdogg

I started reading my kindle edition of "The Man in the High Castle" yesterday and I am already about half-way through and I was wondering who else has read this and I am interested in other Freeper's feedback (without giving anything away).


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: pages; phillipkdick; vanity

1 posted on 11/22/2012 3:43:19 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: pjd; Spiff; ClearCase_guy; irishjuggler; Duke Nukum; Mycroft Holmes

ping


2 posted on 11/22/2012 3:45:35 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Last time I read it was about 20 years ago. Really should make the time to reread it. It’s probably his best book. Hard to discuss until you finish it though, he backloaded all his usual reality challenging stuff, so the last 50 pages makes it very different.


3 posted on 11/22/2012 3:46:29 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: discostu

thanks!


4 posted on 11/22/2012 3:54:26 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Loong time ago. I should re-read it. One of the more approachable of Dick’s works.


5 posted on 11/22/2012 3:59:48 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("Eschatology preceeds soteriology" --G. Vos, Pauline Eschatology, 1930)
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To: Perdogg

I like Dick’s work... he achieved a level of paranoia in the 60’s that most of us are only able to appreciate now.


6 posted on 11/22/2012 4:01:26 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Perdogg

7 posted on 11/22/2012 4:02:22 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

And then there’s Food Channel version, “The Man in the High White Castle”


8 posted on 11/22/2012 4:12:42 PM PST by Corey Ohlis (Visualize Swirled Peas)
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9 posted on 11/22/2012 4:29:25 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Mmmmm...sliders.


10 posted on 11/22/2012 4:35:58 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Perdogg
Major fan of P.K.Dick here. I think his best work is the last three novels, VALIS,The Divine Invasion and The Transmigration of Timothy Archer. He seems to have overcome the problem of 2 dimensional characters in n-dimensional plots that plague his early work.

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11 posted on 11/22/2012 4:50:12 PM PST by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: Perdogg
... I was wondering who else has read this ...

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! ( to quote Richard Feynman. ) It was some time ago, though. I've read SCANNER DARKLY more recently ( and have seen the movie. ) I would agree I should read tMitHC again, as others note. I also agree the big mind trip is at the end. I thought that the title itself actually referred to ... to ... OK no spoilers.

12 posted on 11/22/2012 5:21:40 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Mycroft Holmes

Great comment. I agree.


13 posted on 11/22/2012 6:11:37 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Perdogg

Dick was a visionary. I read this as a teenager 45 years ago, must revisit.


14 posted on 11/22/2012 7:36:36 PM PST by Argus
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To: Perdogg
good book, but the problem with many of these "What if the Nazis won" books are that they completely disregard the actions on the Eastern front

Hitler was not "against all Slavs" - he collaborated with Slovaks, Croats and Bulgarians and to some extent Ukrainians

Assuming that the US did not enter the war and that hitler still went ahead and invaded the USSR, the fact is that the Japanese were not willing to attack the USSR from the east and the Poles and Russians were ready to kill Germans in 43 onwards and did -- German manpower would have been decimated by 45 in the East

Also, this assumes that Asia would just lie down and take the japanese coming in -- not quite true for South-Asia. Very few indians joined the Japanese, most were POWs who took it as a way to escape the Japanese war camps and the Japanese would have been hit by northern Indian warriors and Gurkhas who would have slaughtered the Japanese and the Indian climate with its heat and monsoons would have sapped them. remember that the British "colonization" of india was more getting local kings to collaborate and to slowly, trade and win.

15 posted on 11/23/2012 3:52:48 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Perdogg

I don’t read fiction now, haven’t for years. I’ve never read that one, but AFAIC he’s the only sci-fi writer who was a writer.


16 posted on 11/23/2012 7:04:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

H.G. Wells?


17 posted on 11/25/2012 8:31:43 AM PST by Borges
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He was an overrated undertalented socialist.


18 posted on 11/25/2012 2:47:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

His politics are not relevant. He was a the model of what Science Fiction strives for and was a much better prose stylist than PKD.


19 posted on 11/25/2012 8:16:25 PM PST by Borges
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To: Perdogg

I read it several times in high school and in my 20s. It is a very well written book and I enjoyed it very much but like others here I need to revisit it.

I have been revisiting other PKD books and just reread The Divine Invasion for the first time since it was published. Under-rated masterpiece, IMO. Nothing in the story makes any sense but it is so well written.


20 posted on 11/26/2012 3:34:25 PM PST by Duke Nukum (I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards.)
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To: Perdogg
Great concept. Execution -- not so much.

How does Canada escape conquest?

21 posted on 11/26/2012 3:41:46 PM PST by x
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To: x

for the same reason Canada has no navy today.


22 posted on 11/26/2012 3:45:12 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Borges; Perdogg; SunkenCiv; All
Here are but a few other science fiction and fantasy writers who have been praised in some quarters for their writing styles:

Comments? :)

23 posted on 11/28/2012 12:21:43 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Stephen King is not a good writer by any definition.


24 posted on 11/28/2012 12:42:57 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

LOL!

Seriously, I haven’t read a book by him in years. I remember him as being an entertaining stylist but not a great plotter.

What are your misgivings with him?


25 posted on 11/28/2012 12:55:32 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

His bad prose, one dimensional characters and lack of any original ideas whatsoever.


26 posted on 11/28/2012 1:11:13 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

I’m having problems with my memory. Didn’t he have a problem with foreshadowing?


27 posted on 11/28/2012 1:45:00 PM PST by EveningStar
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