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A Simple Formula That Predicts The Success Of Marriages
Business Insider ^ | 12/28/2012 | Gus Lubin

Posted on 12/28/2012 8:05:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Many have spent long hours wondering if a marriage is going to last, considering things like love, children, taxes, and the opinion of friends and professionals.

But the best and easiest answer may be this formula:

frequency of lovemaking minus frequency of quarrels

A positive difference predicts marital happiness, a negative one unhappiness.

The formula was derived from a series of studies in the 1970s.

One study of married students at University of Missouri-Kansas City found that 28 out of 30 self-described happy couples had sex more than they argued, while all 12 self-described unhappy couples argued more. These results were corroborated by a 1974 study by John Howard and Robyn Dawes, in which all 23 happy couples had a positive score and all 3 unhappy couples had a negative score.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: argue; divorce; happiness; marriage; psychology
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To: supremedoctrine

This is not a “formula that predicts success,” but a snapshot statistic that correlates with self-described happiness. I expect they’d find unmarried students would also characterize their relationships as “happy” if they featured sex more often than quarrels.

If they talked to non-students ... like, those people with jobs and bills? ... even in the same age range, I wonder what they would find.


21 posted on 12/28/2012 8:56:25 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not crazy ... I'm just not you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In a related study on personal happiness they found that they could accurately predict happiness by measuring the frequency of smiling minus frequency of frowning.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 9:02:29 AM PST by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The story does not say that the sex had to be with your spouse. Maybe that is a reason for increased arguments!


23 posted on 12/28/2012 9:06:29 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: cuban leaf; SeekAndFind; NativeSon
"...Our respect for each other is so high (and we both know it)..."

THAT is the key. Not lovemaking, and not arguments.

It is respect.

Without mutual respect, I don't believe you can have a happy marriage, no matter how many times you have intercourse or how many times you argue.

24 posted on 12/28/2012 9:06:50 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some temperaments are naturally antagonistic to each other and some are naturally compatible. Two cholerics paired together will result in a situation where both are both going to try to boss the other around.


25 posted on 12/28/2012 9:27:46 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: rlmorel

My wife and I are getting close to our fiftieth. I’ve got all bases covered. We respect each other, still get it on regularly, and rarely argue.


26 posted on 12/28/2012 9:31:05 AM PST by Oldhunk
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To: supremedoctrine

Exactly! Was wondering what the overall age of these “married students” were.


27 posted on 12/28/2012 9:53:54 AM PST by ASouthernGrl (BHO sucks)
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To: Boogieman

I have a co-worker who says when he and his wife fight they have “hall sex”.

As they pass each other in the hall he looks at her and says “F-— You!” She looks back at him and says “F-— You, Too!”


28 posted on 12/28/2012 10:32:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cuban leaf

Thanks for the comment and link. :o)


29 posted on 12/28/2012 11:11:22 AM PST by Herbster
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Hahaha...great setting for an old joke!


30 posted on 12/28/2012 11:17:10 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Oldhunk

A marriage can handle a lot of things, but disrespect is not one of them. I could not live with someone I disrespected.

Glad to hear you guys are hitting on all cylinders, no pun intended!


31 posted on 12/28/2012 11:25:30 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: TurboZamboni

I think in the article, ‘having sex’ is a mutual, reciprocal thing. In former, less crude times it would have been described as ‘making love’.

Between Barkey and Boner, it is more of a pitcher-catcher thing. Like jail.


32 posted on 12/28/2012 11:33:38 AM PST by SargeK
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To: SeekAndFind

Celibate here and quarrel all the time. Still married and will be until death.


33 posted on 12/28/2012 11:39:13 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Oldhunk
My wife and I are getting close to our fiftieth. I’ve got all bases covered. We respect each other, still get it on regularly, and rarely argue.

Beautiful! Congratulations to you both!

I once saw a tiny little article in a newspaper about a couple married 75 years. They were asked their secret of success.

The man said, "Always listen to your wife."
The woman said, "Neither of us tried to be the boss."

So sweet. And apparently, it worked.

34 posted on 12/28/2012 12:24:22 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("If you're going through hell, keep on going."--Winston Churchill)
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To: steve86
Celibate here and quarrel all the time. Still married and will be until death.

That being the case, you might truly benefit by some classes in how to communicate more effectively. They helped me enormously to communicate with my spouse, my customers and my offspring. I learned ways to solve problems instead of laying blame, listen without commenting hurtfully, avoid unnecessary nitpicking, stay limited and focused on the current problem instead of throwing in the kitchen sink, and so much more.

Some of the courses I took were titled "Assertiveness Training", "Developing Emotional Intelligence, "How to Get Along with Difficult People", and "Parent Effectiveness Training."

Cannot stress enough how much they helped.

35 posted on 12/28/2012 12:50:02 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("If you're going through hell, keep on going."--Winston Churchill)
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To: cuban leaf

I read the link at the end of the your post and it may be true in a lot of cases, not all.


36 posted on 12/28/2012 1:07:53 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: steve86

RE: Celibate here and quarrel all the time.

Why bother marrying in the first place?


37 posted on 12/28/2012 1:16:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: cuban leaf
My first marriage lasted 20 years. Although in the beginning I wanted sex every day, she was fine with twice a week. And it trailed off from there. It produced three beautiful daughters, but back to the subject... The last year we were married we went 14 months with nothing. And to be clear, she was a BIG arguer and I’m a Mr. Spock when it comes to arguing. Being a Christian couple, I figured divorce was not an option and I continued to work on it. That is, until, completely out of the blue, she exercises her “no fault divorce” rights.

My only marriage is like your second marriage. We started about 10-14 times a week, and now after 30 years and three kids, it's currently down to 5-7, I'm close to your age.

I've had friends whose marriages were like your first marriage, will similar final outcomes.

Guys, here's a clue: A woman who is deeply in love with you will also desire you. Second clue: if she's not willing to have a high enough frequency to keep you satisfied, if she's not willing to make an effort to make you happy, then she doesn't love you. If she's lost interest in sex with you, then divorce will follow, so you might as well talk to your lawyer now and make your plans.

38 posted on 12/28/2012 1:16:25 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: muir_redwoods
There’s still an open cause/effect question. Does lovemaking make for more happiness or does happiness make for more lovemaking?

Both. Oxytocin is a brain hormone which promotes feelings of bonding. Physical acts of affection increase oxytocin levels. Besides actual lovemaking, hugs, kisses, eye contact, and other affectionate acts help increase the hormone level.

39 posted on 12/28/2012 1:27:29 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Albion Wilde; SeekAndFind

No, we’re fine.

Maybe your comment will benefit someone else (quite possible).

I have Schizoid Personality Disorder and it is not considered amenable to change, even in intense psychotherapy, nor in the employ of psychopharmacology, nor do we (schizoids) desire change or feel discontent with the situation. This is called “schizoid unconcern”.

Have a Happy New Year!

P.S. Wife is not unhappy and we love each other. Neither of us would choose anyone else or split up. We have six grandkids (hers) over here now.


40 posted on 12/28/2012 2:41:16 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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