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ACLU Has Concerns Over Military Weapons Used By Local Police
KMOX ^ | 07Mar13 | CBS St Louis

Posted on 03/08/2013 3:53:38 PM PST by qaz123

ST. LOUIS (KMOX) - The American Civil Liberties Union wants to know what kind of military weaponry and tactics are being turned over to local police by the Department of Defense and Homeland Security.

The ACLU feels the surplus equipment, things like flash-bang grenades, shock cuffs, and tracking devices that are being handed down, are leading to more aggressive policing, especially in poor neighborhoods and neighborhoods of color.

(Excerpt) Read more at stlouis.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: aclu; dhs; military; police; weapons
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Their just now figuring this out. I guess all they've been too busy sticking their heads up obama's ass to finally realize this. All that Ivy League education don't mean much after all.
1 posted on 03/08/2013 3:53:38 PM PST by qaz123
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Wonder why law abiding citizens are arming themselves to the teeth?There will be blood!


2 posted on 03/08/2013 3:56:54 PM PST by Renegade
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My money is on the citizenry.

On a side note, I’m in law enforcement. I know that my sample doesn’t cover the entire law enforcement spectrum, but there are more than a few people in uniform that will side with the citizens. However, most are cops from Conservative leaning/ Red states.


3 posted on 03/08/2013 3:59:10 PM PST by qaz123
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To: Renegade

I posted this earlier and, well, forgive me for trying to get some exposure.

Police State USA, Life During Wartime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYn9JF0TSgw

If you like it, let me know and bump it up.

Thanks


4 posted on 03/08/2013 4:01:11 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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I guess if they use that stuff in neighborhoods of non color it’s alright then.


5 posted on 03/08/2013 4:02:05 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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I guess if they use that stuff in neighborhoods of non color it’s alright then.

Odd, I must have missed the ACLU's protestations when the Branch Davidians were incinerated by feds using military equipment.

6 posted on 03/08/2013 4:04:02 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: qaz123
Barry says,"It's all goooood."

7 posted on 03/08/2013 4:06:42 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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http://www.chillicothegazette.com/article/20130224/NEWS01/302240025/Waverly-standoff-ends-with-man-shooting-search-robot?gcheck=1

Man charged with vandalism for shooting police robot in his house (OH)


8 posted on 03/08/2013 4:11:15 PM PST by opentalk
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ACLU, shut up! It's too late. Your own policies are now biting you in the butt.
9 posted on 03/08/2013 4:11:29 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Obama is going to have to yank these yahoos back into line. Those are his police now.


10 posted on 03/08/2013 4:12:15 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Zeneta

Music is toooooo loud


11 posted on 03/08/2013 4:14:13 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

What ?


12 posted on 03/08/2013 4:15:14 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: qaz123

This is nothing.

What does the ACLU have to say about almost 2 Billion Bullets ,Tanks, and Drones for Homeland Security the IRS and Social Security.


13 posted on 03/08/2013 4:16:30 PM PST by Venturer
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Don’t forget the Education Department - they apparently had a need too.


14 posted on 03/08/2013 4:19:34 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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OTOH - that’s why they have them because they were outgunned for years. All they had were those .38cal revolvers going up against those AK’s.


15 posted on 03/08/2013 4:26:25 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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St. Louis and EVERY major city has the infestation of inner-city tribal parasites, and they take what they want, and have been told they have a Right to, as long as it's not theirs and costs nothing.

The ACLU probably was complained-to by Obamaphone users.....

16 posted on 03/08/2013 4:26:49 PM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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The ACLU feels the surplus equipment, things like flash-bang grenades, shock cuffs, and tracking devices that are being handed down, are leading to more aggressive policing, especially in poor neighborhoods and neighborhoods of color.

Never mind just weapons, let the ACLU ask about "Stingray", an NSA-designed, CIA-built universal cellphone short-range intercept device loaned out to federal alphabet agencies, police, and anybody on the "friendly" side of government.

It overpowers the weaker cell-tower signals long enough to record both sides of a conversation on a hard drive, then retransmits the signal to the legitimate tower. Adds a fraction of a second to usually crummy cell service, and sucks up everything the cell tower would have gotten, but with one small side trip, first.

And nobody needs a warrant, because it officially does not exist. Try that with a Predator, which is considerably bigger, and is known to exist, but just not right over your head at that moment.

17 posted on 03/08/2013 4:36:27 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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Did the ACLU show interest when Bill Clinton gave the LAPD 2000 full auto M-16s? And later gave them bayonets!


18 posted on 03/08/2013 4:38:25 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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Thank you...Rand Paul needs to stage another filibuster because the real threat from domestic drones isn’t a Hellfire down your chimney, but their ability to collect/transmit vast amounts of information.

I had some experience with military drones, both as a military intelligence officer and later, as a civilian contractor. At the peak of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Air Force was responsible for up to 36 UAV orbits a day. Collectively, the intel “haul” from those missions was measured in terabytes, uplinked to satellites and downlinked to DCGS nodes around the world.

Within a few years, there will be dozens of daily drone missions across the U.S., run by local, state and federal law enforcement. As sensor technology advances, you’ll be able to hang an even wider variety of sensors on those platforms, and they will be gathering vast amounts of information and transmitting it God-knows-where. And don’t think for a moment that police at all levels will share this data, and with even more sophisticated data mining, video tagging and facial recognition software, your every move will be tracked and cross-referenced to media habits, financial transactions and personal relationships.

The perfect tools for a police state. Yet no one, not even Rand Paul, is talking about the real threat from drones.

BTW, I can almost predict one tactic that will be used. Law enforcement will stage some sort of event to stimuate cell phone and internet activity in a selected area. Meanwhile, an advanced version of Stingray, mounted on a drone will be sucking up all the cell traffic in that neighborhood. It will be instantly downlinked to a police fusion center, and available across law enforcement and intelligence networks.

Just like when the Air Force used to run an SR-71 along the edge of Russian or Chinese airspace to stir up air defense traffic, while an RC-135 orbited off the coast, recording all types of ELINT and voice traffic.


19 posted on 03/08/2013 6:16:35 PM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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>> ... there are more than a few people in uniform that will side with the citizens ...

Agreed, but many will not - for perspective on this, read -
Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland
by Christopher R. Browning

Or Google up “Christopher Browning”


20 posted on 03/08/2013 6:21:22 PM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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