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Feds tell Web firms to turn over user account passwords
CNET ^ | July 25 2013 | by Declan McCullagh

Posted on 07/25/2013 9:23:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey

The U.S. government has demanded that major Internet companies divulge users' stored passwords, according to two industry sources familiar with these orders, which represent an escalation in surveillance techniques that has not previously been disclosed.

If the government is able to determine a person's password, which is typically stored in encrypted form, the credential could be used to log in to an account to peruse confidential correspondence or even impersonate the user. Obtaining it also would aid in deciphering encrypted devices in situations where passwords are reused.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: fedpasswords; nsa; passwords; prying; spying
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HEY FREDDIE FED...BUTT OUT ALREADY!
1 posted on 07/25/2013 9:23:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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To: MeshugeMikey

if they can do this there’s no way to prove what’s in your account was created by you.

they can set you up for any crime they want and then storm your house gestapo swat style.


2 posted on 07/25/2013 9:25:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Twould appear to be the case YES!

whos running THAT SHOW anyway?


3 posted on 07/25/2013 9:25:58 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Macabre Crumpet of Caucasian Ethnicity)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Bloggers tell Web firms to turn over WH & Feds` user account passwords


4 posted on 07/25/2013 9:26:57 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: Secret Agent Man

Just the fact that this is now public means defense attorneys will use this to raise reasonable doubt.

Technically complex cases are already hard to prosecute and this makes it harder.

Already there have been cases where prosecutors failed to convict because there was a trojan contained in the image of the hard disks entered as evidence. The operator of the trojan could easily have been responsible for data on the disk.


5 posted on 07/25/2013 9:30:18 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: MeshugeMikey; All

Well, I guess that pretty much does it for the Fourth Amendment.


6 posted on 07/25/2013 9:30:52 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: MeshugeMikey

What’s next? The Blue dress? Underwear for DNA evidence?
Yap, privacy rights are now history.


7 posted on 07/25/2013 9:35:49 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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To: MeshugeMikey
The Fourth Amendment states (not that King Zero and his merry band of Constitution shredders care):

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated....

"Effects" must be read, in conjunction with "papers",as to include electronic devices. Without a warrant, it is illegal to demand passwords. None but a bought and paid for judge would sign such a warrant, but I reckon there are quite a few just in DC that would do so without as much as a second thought. Anything to advance King Zero's destruction of America.

The Constitution is now interpreted by Leftists as a document that only allows the people what is specifically written (subject to interpretation by Leftist judges) and the government is only restricted by what they can't reinterpret from the document.

8 posted on 07/25/2013 9:35:57 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Bobalu

remember that trayvon’s texts couldn’t be entered as evidence because the judge could not be sure he was the one that typed and sent them, on his own phone.


9 posted on 07/25/2013 9:41:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: davisfh
Well, I guess that pretty much does it for the Fourth Amendment.

Apparently so.

10 posted on 07/25/2013 9:43:10 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: entropy12

If they want a blood, urine and stool sample I’ll send them my shorts!


11 posted on 07/25/2013 9:43:32 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2013! Geaux, Pack, Geaux!)
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To: jeffc
None but a bought and paid for judge would sign such a warrant, but I reckon there are quite a few just in DC that would do so without as much as a second thought.

In a better world this would be the only Judge that could be bought.
12 posted on 07/25/2013 9:45:12 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

I’ll be shutting down everything except FR.


13 posted on 07/25/2013 9:55:14 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

And the justification for this is...

Not that it makes any difference.

Pay phones and postal mail are starting to look good again.


14 posted on 07/25/2013 9:55:26 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Bobalu

Another good reason to scrub-and-reinstall...

I should look into virtual machines more.


15 posted on 07/25/2013 9:56:04 PM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Do you think the Republicans would put a stop to this invasion of our freedoms? Boehner, get off the cocktail circuit and get our freedom back!


16 posted on 07/25/2013 10:13:12 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

I expect the republicans to assist the white house as they always do.

Those who value their freedom are going to have to get it back on their own, we have no friends in this.


17 posted on 07/25/2013 10:22:20 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Pay phones and postal mail are starting to look good again.

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18 posted on 07/25/2013 10:32:56 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: MeshugeMikey
...or even impersonate the user...

Pretty much blows the concept of nonrepudiation.

Wouldn't this allow someone accused by the government of a computer crime to plausibly claim "It wasn't me"?

19 posted on 07/25/2013 10:42:06 PM PDT by Washi
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To: MichaelCorleone
Pay phones and postal mail are starting to look good again.

I've been thinking the same thing since this (non-phony) scandal first broke.

If the USPS were smart, they could build an awesome advertising campaign around this.

20 posted on 07/25/2013 10:44:56 PM PDT by Washi
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