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Joel Osteen finally comes out on 'gay' issue
World Net Daily ^ | 10/03/2013

Posted on 11/06/2013 8:34:36 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

'I'm not here to be preaching hate, pushing people down'

God “absolutely” approves of everyone — including homosexuals — declared one of America’s most well-known evangelical pastors

The Houston megapastor and best-selling author Joel Osteen, whose followers include the likes of Cher and Oprah Winfrey, is hitting the talk-show circuit to promote his new book, “Break Out!

HuffPo Live host Josh Zepps quoted from Osteen’s new book: “It doesn’t matter who likes you or who doesn’t like you, all that matters is God likes you. He accepts you, he approves of you.”

Zepps followed up by asking if that included homosexuals.

Pastor Joel Osteen

“Absolutely,” Osteen insisted, “I believe that God has breathed his life into every single person. We’re all on a journey. Nobody’s perfect.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: evangelicals; homosexualagenda; joelosteen; megachurch; osteen; pastor; sin
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To: Responsibility2nd

Can’t be in sin, and in the presence of God. Can’t


61 posted on 11/06/2013 9:20:34 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Osteen will say whatever itching ears want to hear — he has an expensive house and trophy wife to maintain.


62 posted on 11/06/2013 9:20:41 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: GeronL
Unless you accidently comment in the Catholic Caucus thread, then you will receive eternal damnation.

That makes sense. I think they receive an indulgence when they "accidentally" comment in a Protestant Caucus thread.

63 posted on 11/06/2013 9:22:17 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: TexasRepublic
Osteen will say whatever itching ears want to hear — he has an expensive house and trophy wife to maintain.

Not all trophies are awards for first place, you know.

Pastor's (Joel Osteen's)wife involved in flight disturbance
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Osteen family leaves plane after dispute (pastor's wife didn't follow a fa's instructions)
Wife of Joel Osteen Asked to Leave Plane
Motion filed in suit against Osteen's wife
Lawyer asks judge to reveal Osteens' wealth
Victoria Osteen: Mother First, Pastor Second
Osteen's Wife on Trial for Temper Tantrum
Trial to Begin in Suit Against Prominent Pastor's Wife
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Pastor's Wife Embroiled in Civil Trial Addresses Lakewood Church Members [Vicky Osteen Watch]

64 posted on 11/06/2013 9:24:24 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Joel Osteen’s theological credentials are what?

One semester of TV Production at Oral Roberts University?

I know I am biased by the Presbyterian Church’s insistence on over-educated pastors, but I would not go to him for interpretation or history of Bible teachings.


65 posted on 11/06/2013 9:26:22 AM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Olog-hai

Jude 1:20-23

But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.

Be merciful to those who doubt; save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.


66 posted on 11/06/2013 9:26:49 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: fwdude

And in Romans, Paul indicates that homosexuality is a sign of rejection of God. How could one who has rejected God, lest they be under conviction toward repentance, want to be part of the church? The obvious answer is that they are there to destroy the church, not to strengthen it or seek reconciliation with God.


67 posted on 11/06/2013 9:27:41 AM PST by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: montag813
Joel Osteen is SO gay

Sure has a gorgeous wife . . . love the way he closes his eyes every time he turns his head . . . kinda' gay, doncha' think?

68 posted on 11/06/2013 9:30:50 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Thane_Banquo

I don’t disagree with you, but your post has nothing to do with my post.


69 posted on 11/06/2013 9:31:29 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Having it both ways?


70 posted on 11/06/2013 9:37:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: winner3000

Kind of libertarian there, not taking a stand on anything.

Any pastor/priest that does not talk about the good and the bad in the Bible is doing nobody a service and not worth listening to.


71 posted on 11/06/2013 9:38:07 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: laweeks

Some photos, she looks like Kirstey Alley when young.

And no offense meant to anyone, but exposed gums in a smile turns me off.


72 posted on 11/06/2013 9:58:04 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Responsibility2nd

I have watched him a few times.

NEVER heard him preaching the Gospel.

Lost interest.


73 posted on 11/06/2013 10:14:45 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Gays are some of the nicest, kindest, most loving people in the world.

Megachurch pastor pandering again.

Aren't stereotypes to be avoided in this PC age?

74 posted on 11/06/2013 10:20:15 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Heck, we already knew that. I do not understand why anyone follows his teaching.


75 posted on 11/06/2013 10:39:49 AM PST by MamaB
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To: Responsibility2nd
Joel may be a popular preacher but he's a capitalist too, I see.

Has he ever mentioned what he's doing with the proceeds from his book sales?

76 posted on 11/06/2013 10:46:10 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Responsibility2nd

Who who knows Joel Osteen and what he says, is truly surprised by this?

I certainly am not. Osteen is a damn charlatan. A fraud. A wolf in sheeps clothing. He’s in the Preachertainment business.

When one recognizes he’s never had any serious study of the bible at all, you understand why he never wants to get very deep in his answers or discussions about ANYTHING.

Just chalk up another unbiblical thing out of his mouth. I hope people’s eyes are opening up about him.


77 posted on 11/06/2013 11:04:50 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: apillar

It is worse than others.

It is because it’s not only a perversion of sex outside of marriage, it’s worse because it rejects the natural order God instituted between men and women.

It is also worse because the people committing this sin believe they ARE NOT sinning to the point they are callign those who say it’s sin, EVIL and try to FORCE THEM to not only tolerate it, but be approving of it. To the point they try to get government to enforce thsi on those saying it’s sin.

What other sin out there is celebrated as much? Not adultery. There’s no Adultery Pride day, no Adultery Month, no flag for adulterers, there’s no Fornicator Pride week anywhere. There’s no Bring your Thief to work day. There’s no Abusive Spouse of the Year award. There’s no “I have the most babies from the most different dads” contest out there.

We don’t celebrate sin. Except homosexuality. THAT makes it different and worse. It’s worse because society tolerates and promotes it and persecutes people who are opposed to it if they speak the truth about it.

THAT’s why.


78 posted on 11/06/2013 11:12:42 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: apillar

Agreed. Everything I need to know about how Jesus would have treated a homosexual is in John 8. The problem with homosexuals is that they don’t accept that they are living a “life of sin.” In other words, they are not willing to serve God, they want a God that suits them.


79 posted on 11/06/2013 11:15:43 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: henkster
Agreed. Everything I need to know about how Jesus would have treated a homosexual is in John 8. The problem with homosexuals is that they don’t accept that they are living a “life of sin.” In other words, they are not willing to serve God, they want a God that suits them.

The problem is that many Christians today are really good at the "love the Sinner" part, but come up short on the the other side of the equation, the "hate the sin". In fact, many churches have become more about "love the sinner and accept the sin" on issues such as homosexuality. Which is a slippery slope indeed, and in the end harms both the Church and the Sinners.

80 posted on 11/06/2013 11:24:31 AM PST by apillar
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