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Nazis Attempted to Train Dogs to Talk, Read and Spell to Win WW2
IO9 ^ | January 7, 2014 | Esther Inglis-Arkell

Posted on 01/07/2014 7:42:21 PM PST by DogByte6RER

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Did the nazis really have a school for talking dogs?

Just when you think you've gotten to the end of the bizarre by-products of World War II, you learn about talking Nazi dogs. The question is: How official were they? We'll look into the school — or possibly the con game — of talking dogs.

Here's what we know. In 1930, Margarethe Schmidt lived with her mother in a relatively large house, and kept Asra, a Great Dane. Asra gave birth to five puppies, and the Schmidts took in a terrier. Somewhere along the line, all the dogs began learning to talk. And at some later point along the line, reports went out that these talking, spelling, and "reasoning," dogs, would go out into the battlefields and the villages and start working for the Nazis.

The idea that dogs could talk was not unprecedented in Germany. In the 1920s, a dog named Don, that would bark his name, tell people he was hungry, and ask for "kuche," became a celebrity and brought his owner a great deal of wealth. The Nazis harbored a sentimentality for animals, and a belief in the deep connection between humans and nature. Great Danes speaking German and helping their human comrades didn't seem that crazy. This might be why German newspapers published plans for educated dogs taking over low-level command posts and helping out on the battlefields. One dog, Rolf, reportedly learned to spell with his paw. He spelled out his thoughts on religion - in between hitting on women and asking them if he could wag their tails. Margarethe Schmidt was referred to as an "animal psychologist," in these pieces. Possible uses for the new educated dogs that she churned out were bandied about in the German power structure.

On the other hand, people who actually saw the educated wonder dogs generally agreed that they saw little more than the Clever Hans effect. Clever Hans was a horse who was said to talk and to do math problems by tapping his hoof, but was shown to be responding to clues in the body language of his trainer and the people around him. When the crowd relaxed back (after the proper number of taps that had been achieved), Hans stopped tapping. Animal behaviorists have, ever since, had to take pains not to let their expressions or body language show when they are gauging animal reaction.

The "speaking" dogs didn't speak. One guest was told they all had colds. They seemed to respond to trainers and to rehearsed commands. After the war - and after posing for a lot of pictures with her educated dogs - Margarethe Schmidt agreed with this assessment, saying that she received no money from the Nazi government and had no real plans with them. She was only running a sort of circus.

So the question remains a mystery. Did Germany actually try to train an army of talking Nazi dogs?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: canine; dog; doggieping; dogs; fascism; k9; nazi; nazis; weirdscience; wooffanss; worldwar2
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1 posted on 01/07/2014 7:42:22 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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2 posted on 01/07/2014 7:43:12 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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More background ...

Nazis tried to train dogs to talk, read and spell to win WW2

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8532573/Nazis-tried-to-train-dogs-to-talk-read-and-spell-to-win-WW2.html


3 posted on 01/07/2014 7:43:52 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

"Whoever heard of a talking dog?"

4 posted on 01/07/2014 7:48:18 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: DogByte6RER; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
It must be noted that the Germans did succeed in teaching dogs how to play cards.
(Post WWII photograph of imprisoned German war criminals.)


5 posted on 01/07/2014 7:48:31 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: DogByte6RER

While I have heard cats who can speak a few simple words, I’ve never heard a dog talk.


6 posted on 01/07/2014 7:50:08 PM PST by PAR35
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To: DogByte6RER

The Master Race.

7 posted on 01/07/2014 7:54:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: PAR35

Mishka is gonna holler at you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WhVNHh0wMs


8 posted on 01/07/2014 7:59:06 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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Das hundpingen!


9 posted on 01/07/2014 8:07:32 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Heh. Well, the Soviets had apeman warriors for the collective.

We had Hellboy and Superman. No wonder we won WWII.

10 posted on 01/07/2014 8:12:42 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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11 posted on 01/07/2014 8:39:00 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: DogByte6RER

Sorta reminds me of a joke I heard, “Ummm, sheep lie.”


12 posted on 01/07/2014 8:41:15 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

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13 posted on 01/07/2014 8:48:45 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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14 posted on 01/07/2014 8:54:36 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority! 11.06.12 - Day of Infamy!)
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15 posted on 01/07/2014 8:59:22 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Theoria

Heh. Well, the Soviets had apeman warriors for the collective.

We had Hellboy and Superman. No wonder we won WWII.

Godless Commies and Socialists love to tinker with nature to pervert it into their mold of weird crazy dreamed up utopian crap.


16 posted on 01/07/2014 9:11:27 PM PST by GraceG
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To: DogByte6RER

“Nazis Attempted to Train Dogs to Talk, Read and Spell to Win WW2”

Well, we see how well that worked out. But maybe the dogs were really “double” agents.


17 posted on 01/07/2014 9:22:45 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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"This Dog is Amazing! Kriegsmarine? Learning how to use the ENIGMA machines and pad ciphers? Semafore? WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM AWAY?"



"Because zis dog is a liar. He barely did HAFF ze sings he boasts about..."
18 posted on 01/07/2014 9:32:49 PM PST by golux
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To: DogByte6RER

“My dog has no nose!’’ “How does he smell?’’ “Awful!’’.


19 posted on 01/07/2014 9:44:35 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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The author has it backwards! It was the Nazis that learned to bark commands!!


20 posted on 01/08/2014 1:18:58 AM PST by ArtDodger
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21 posted on 01/08/2014 1:39:04 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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...reports went out that these talking, spelling, and "reasoning," dogs, would go out into the battlefields and the villages and start working for the Nazis.

Ah, the infamous Woofwaffe.

22 posted on 01/08/2014 1:51:00 AM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: count-your-change
If you’re a fan of the Monty Python series you might remember “Secret Agent Teddy Salad” from the Mr Neutron episode...

Trapper: I ain’t Salad.

Carpenter: What?

Trapper: You want Teddy Salad?

Carpenter: Yeah ... (the man looks around rather furtively, to see if anyone is watching, then takes Carpenter’s arm and indicates the dog team) I don’t see anyone.

Trapper: The one on the end, on the right. That’s Salad.

Carpenter: That’s a dog!

Trapper: (confidentially) No, only bits of it.

Carpenter: What do you mean?

Trapper: Listen, Teddy Salad is the most brilliant agent the CIA ever had, right?

Carpenter: Right.

Trapper: That’s how he made his name (indicates the dog) - disguise!

(They look at the dog in silence for a moment.)

Carpenter: That’s incredible!

Trapper: He had to slim down to one and a half pounds to get into that costume. He cut eighteen inches off each arm and over three feet off each leg. The most brilliant surgeon in Europe stuck that tail on.

Carpenter: What about the head?

Trapper: All of the head was removed apart from the eyes and the brain in order to fit into the costume.

Carpenter: That’s incredible!

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Carpenter: Look, we haven’t got much time ... He hasn’t given me any information yet...

Trapper: OK. Tell you what, let’s eat. You give him one of your meatballs, he’ll tell you anything... OK?

Carpenter: OK.

(Suddenly the dog woofs, gets up on back legs and starts pawing the trapper.)

Trapper: Wait a minute - he’s trying to tell us something.

(A strangled, strained American voice comes from within the dog. Slightly muffled perhaps.)

Dog: Carpenter ... er ... ugh ... ah...Carpenter...

Carpenter: (kneeling down and peering into the dog’s face) Yes, Mr Salad? Can you hear me?

Dog: Yes... yes... it’s just it’s so goddam painful in here... what’s the problem?

Carpenter: It’s Mr Neutron, sir ... he’s gone missing. The Supreme Commander wants you to take charge.

Dog: I ... oh God ... I ... I ... I...

Carpenter: Yes, Mr Salad?

Dog: I gotta go walkies again.

23 posted on 01/08/2014 2:01:31 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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24 posted on 01/08/2014 2:08:29 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: DogByte6RER

Remember some of the female East German athletes...


25 posted on 01/08/2014 2:13:57 AM PST by maddog55
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26 posted on 01/08/2014 2:30:22 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: DogByte6RER

My wife and I once had a beagle who could howl out “I wuv you” after being taught that by her. No kidding. We were not the only ones who could understand him. Others listened and without our saying what he said, they said he did indeed say “I love you” (though with a slight impediment on the “l”).


27 posted on 01/08/2014 3:43:17 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Dogs had a hard time convicing Yanks that they “knew” the password. Always responded Rooth when asked “who’s the greatest baseball player of all time”. Everyone then knew it was DiMaggio.


28 posted on 01/08/2014 5:01:05 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Theoria
No matter how good a dog's nose was, he was no match for Kilroy:


29 posted on 01/08/2014 5:19:41 AM PST by left that other site
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To: DogByte6RER

But what does the fox say?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE


30 posted on 01/08/2014 5:30:04 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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I wish I could understand Dog-Speak anywhere near as well as my dogs understand spoken English. They must think I’m awfully dumb not to understand their vocalizations. My girl gets louder and louder as if to say, “I’ll say it again. You still don’t get it?”


31 posted on 01/08/2014 11:16:19 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: DogByte6RER

Hitler Cat is not amused.

32 posted on 01/08/2014 11:18:34 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: TexasRepublic

I think of the Far Side cartoon where it says what dogs really hear....

“Blah blah blah Ginger.....Blah blah blah Blah blah blah..Ginger......lah blah blah Blah blah blah......Ginger....”


33 posted on 01/08/2014 11:21:19 AM PST by dfwgator
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Iams? Decadent American food. Give me some GOOD German Bratwurst...
34 posted on 01/08/2014 1:05:24 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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