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The mysterious coywolf, a mixture of western coyote and eastern wolf
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Posted on 03/09/2014 2:01:08 PM PDT by DBCJR

The coywolf, a mixture of western coyote and eastern wolf, is a remarkable new hybrid carnivore that is taking over territories once roamed by wolves and slipping unnoticed into our cities. Its appearance is very recent — within the last 90 years — in evolutionary terms, a blip in time. Beginning in Canada but by no means ending there, the story of how it came to be is an extraordinary tale of how quickly adaptation and evolution can occur, especially when humans interfere. Tag along as scientists study this new top predator, tracking it from the wilderness of Ontario’s Algonquin Park, through parking lots, alleys and backyards in Toronto all the way to the streets of New York City. (Video streaming restricted to U.S. and Territories.)


TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: animalhusbandry; canada; coyotoes; coywolf; cryptobiology; cryptozoology; godsgravesglyphs; newyorkcity; ontario; wolf; wolves
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To: Valpal1

*But*:

“The widespread distribution of this haplotype from Florida to West Virginia suggests that the hybridization event occurred long ago before the southeastern USA was colonized by coyotes.

However, it could have occurred in the southeastern USA before the main front of coyotes arrived in the area _between male coyotes released for sport_ and _a local domestic dog_.”

There *are* morons intentionally breeding ‘coydogs’ for pets.

The article also says “closely related to” domestic dogs.

That’s a pretty big genetic spread in a very old study.

They’re just now admitting the wolf ancestry, after denying it for decades,


41 posted on 03/09/2014 3:27:04 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: ottbmare

Yes I do.

Something about domestication cause dogs to revert to a perpetual state of puppyhood, displaying “puppy traits”.

Domestic dogs are eternally infantilized wolves.


42 posted on 03/09/2014 3:29:22 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: trisham

You might want to don your asbestos undies.

:)


43 posted on 03/09/2014 3:29:59 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: blam

Maybe there’s more than one mystery here.

http://www.carolinadogs.com/


44 posted on 03/09/2014 3:31:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ottbmare

Carry anyway.

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

For decades, I’ve gotten around it by carrying a long rifle into the woods.

I know people who carry lighter all the time.

You gotta do what you gotta do.


45 posted on 03/09/2014 3:32:03 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

The US Wildlands Project! The predecessor of UN agenda 21, look them up.


46 posted on 03/09/2014 3:32:24 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Grampa Dave

Great video.

Thanks!

Had to turn the sound down when they were howling as that set the Dobes off into a blood-eyed rage.

:)


47 posted on 03/09/2014 3:33:31 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: nomad

It seems questionable at this time:

http://northernwoodlands.org/outside_story/article/canis-soupus-the-eastern-coy-wolf/


48 posted on 03/09/2014 3:34:53 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Dogs, left to breed amongst themselves will eventually revert to “primitive type”.

Some breeds still retain that type, such as Dingos, Ibizan Hounds, Pharoah Hounds, *all* of the Podengo/Podenco types and Spitz types.

When you strip away all of man’s genetic “interference”, those dogs are what original dogs looked like.


49 posted on 03/09/2014 3:37:13 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: trisham; nomad

They are more likely just feral mutts.


50 posted on 03/09/2014 3:38:35 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Salamander

DNA testing is the only way to determine whether these animals are coy-wolves or coy-dogs. It’s my impression that most hybrids are actually wolf-dog mixes and bred intentionally by humans, often for the purpose of sale. There is a market for such animals.


51 posted on 03/09/2014 3:41:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ottbmare

Bear spray http://counterassault.com/


52 posted on 03/09/2014 3:42:31 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Valpal1

see also Valpal1’s post #30.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=coywolf&sm=3


53 posted on 03/09/2014 3:44:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: All

It seems to me that if its a true hybrid it won’t reproduce so each litter has to be a result of a new coupling between a domestic canine and a wild animal.
I’m surprised that this isnt a big problem in Detroit since there’s supposed to be a big feral dog and cat problem there plus probably abandoned exotic pets of various kinds. And not much money to operate Animal Control either.

I’ve never been a big fan of wolf hybrids. Nothing personal, if you have one. I just don’t get it.


54 posted on 03/09/2014 3:44:18 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: trisham

Correct.

Wolf hybrids are disgustingly common and coyote hybrids are a new fad.

What could possibly go wrong?

People have even attempted fox hybrids but mercifully, the chromosomes are mismatched.

I’ve known lots of people who have wolf hybrids locked up in outside runs, ignored except for feeding and watering because their “dog” was unmanageable and/or dangerous.

This is a sin.


55 posted on 03/09/2014 3:45:11 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Salamander; nomad

In ohio? Yes, it’s likely. Without DNA testing, we just can’t know for sure.


56 posted on 03/09/2014 3:45:52 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: W.Lee
I have them here on my farm in Loudoun County Virginia.

Maybe this is a dumb question. But, how would a half-wolf be in Virginia? I know we got coyotes. But where'd the wolf half come from?

57 posted on 03/09/2014 3:47:46 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (On the wrong side of history.)
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To: Salamander

Agreed. I understand that people are interested in wolves. They’re beautiful animals, but they are not dogs. It’s cruel to keep a wild animal, which is what a wolf-dog hybrid is, the way that some people do.


58 posted on 03/09/2014 3:48:51 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: crazycatlady

“Hybrid” is a misnomer.

They’re technically just crosses.

Hybrids are successful matings between not wholly genetically compatible animals such as horses and donkeys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_%28biology%29

The video linked in the beginning of the thread gave an excellent accounting of the genetic fact that only the eastern wolf is able to breed with both coyotes and gray wolves.

They’re considered a ‘genetic bridge’, which is fascinating.


59 posted on 03/09/2014 3:49:07 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: trisham

Then why do they look kinda like dogs? I know a coyote when I see one, these are NOT coyotes.


60 posted on 03/09/2014 3:50:57 PM PDT by nomad
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