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Possible Theory on Flight 370 Location.
Vanity | 3 March 2014 | Trueblackman

Posted on 03/13/2014 8:59:02 PM PDT by Trueblackman

I have a possible theory on why no one has found flight 370. Several years ago before enlisting in the NAVY, I remember talking to a A-6 Navigator about one of the pilots in his squadron crashing into the Med after losing his awareness at night. Now come word that 4 hours after losing radar contact that the engines on Flight 370 were still transmitting data to satellites, so my theory is that the flight was in fact hijacked and the transmitters turned off as the terrorists flew the jet at very low attitude until the terrorists lost their awareness and crashed into the sea at low speed, which would mean the aircraft is mostly intact and sank slowly. I believe that the aircraft is not in the Gulf of Thailand, but in fact somewhere in the Indian Ocean. As a former Aviation Boatswain Mate Handler, I saw several nuggets over the years lost their awareness at the last minute on final approach to the deck and have to take a waveoff from paddles and go back around, just a possible theory on why the plane has not been found yet.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Free Republic Policy/Q&A; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: iran; malaysia; mh370; waronterror
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To: VRWC For Truth
Botched hijacking. It’s at the bottom the Indian Ocean.

That overlooks the cell phone issue.

41 posted on 03/13/2014 9:39:57 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: smokingfrog
Not sure how they could sneak gas masks onto the plane for themselves without raising some red flags though.

Ground crew could have made sure they were on board.

42 posted on 03/13/2014 9:41:15 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Red herring. There are no cell phone towers in the middle of the ocean.
43 posted on 03/13/2014 9:41:55 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: smokingfrog

Epi pens with atropine.


44 posted on 03/13/2014 9:42:37 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: Trueblackman

Flying around for four hours, tells me they had a pretty good idea where they wanted to go..if it did crash at sea perhaps a few of the passengers did what Flight 93 did and tried to take back the plane and it crashed


45 posted on 03/13/2014 9:45:50 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I cant explain it because I don’t completely understand the technical issues involved. What I tried to get across is that all the wireless tech guru talking heads that I’ve seen on TV and read on the internet and one guru type I’ve talked to in person have told me that the idea that the families heard working phones has been debunked. As I said, I do not fully understand the technical details that they explained, but the take away was that the phones were not active. Are their conclusions true? I don’t know.


46 posted on 03/13/2014 9:46:33 PM PDT by fatman6502002
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To: 43north

What Muzzie, especially Iranian, could pass up the opportunity to be part of an op to decapitate the Great Satan’s (America) financial system or the political leadership in DC?

Then its off to destroy the Little Satan (Israel) with no one to stop them. There are plenty of Muslim Brotherhood affiliates running the show in Muzzie countries all around Israel after the Arab Spring.

We have four blood red Moons coming up over the next two years with each one taking place on the holidays of Passover and Sukkot (Festival of Booths/Tabernacles). This doesn’t happen very often but when it does major things happen to Jews and Israel.

Will Lunar Eclipses Cause Four Blood Moons in 2014 and 2015?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2013/07/12/lunar-eclipses-cause-blood-moons

Four ‘blood-red’ total lunar eclipses will fall on Passover and Sukkot in 2014 and 2015, the same back-to-back occurrences at the time of 1492, 1948 and 1967
http://watch.org/showprint.php3?idx=104119&mcat=24&rtn=index.html

Messiah is supposed to go public sometime after Ariel Sharon dies.
The Rabbi, the Note and the Messiah
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23877/Default.aspx

Prophetic twist to Sharon’s imminent death
http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/prophetic-twist-to-sharons-imminent-death/
Israeli former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s health ‘worsens’
http://www.dw.de/israeli-former-prime-minister-ariel-sharons-health-worsens/a-17336998

12th-century rabbi predicted Israel’s future (Messiah in 2017)
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/12th-century-rabbi-predicted-israels-future/

Egyptian Astrologer: The Jews Will be Stronger in 2014
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175827#.UtBpPbR1ItI
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4088.htm

Saturn going into a fire sign.

The one letter in the Hebrew aleph-bet that looks like fire is the Shin and symbolically represents divine power.

It makes an ss sound and a sh sound.

It’s used in Hebrew words like ‘shaddai’ as in El Shaddai (God Almighty), Shalom (peace and tranquility), Shalem (wholeness, completeness, perfection), and my favorite , Shabbat (Sabbath - rest, the Seventh day of creation, oath, promise, vow, pledge).

‘Saturn’ in Hebrew starts with a Shin. The word fire(aish) and Israel(Yisrael) both have a Shin in them as well as the word Messiah (Maschiach).

This letter is also used on the case of the housing that holds a mezuzah (small parchment) with Hebrew writing on it. It is placed on the doorposts per Gods commandment.

The teffilin (phylacteries) that are used during prayer have a Shin on them. The SHIN appears on tefillin in two forms: on the left side of the one worn on the head, the letter is embossed with four splays, while on the right side of the one used for the arm, the standard three-headed version of the letter is used. These two forms represent the two kinds of Divine wisdom: the revealed and the concealed.

And what do goy astrologers say about Saturn being in Sagittarius?
Found this.

Saturn in Sagittarius is serious when it comes to philosophy, education and religion. They are highly principled, believing that people earn their achievements through hard work. Reputation is very important to them. They may not have been able to get the education they desired, so many are self-taught to a degree. Intellectual capability is important to them. They may be skeptical and need to prove their theories.

Sagittarius Saturn is conservative, and they change only with much resistance. They may be very narrow-minded when it comes to philosophy or religion. With Saturn in Sagittarius, it gains structure and goals. They love to learn and now they have the focus they need. Alternatively, they can also develop tunnel vision.

They may be attracted to games of chance. They enjoy the adventure and excitement associated with it. They are very logical. It is hard for them to appreciate the magic in a sunset or a rainbow. They may fear they will be punished if they don’t live on the straight and narrow. If they let fear rule their life, they may become cynical, critical and forlorn.

Alternatively, Saturn in Sagittarius can become disillusioned with authority and create their own through the use of strong intuition. By letting go of their fear, they can evolve into a better self. They still want their freedom, just with rules. They like to travel.

Sagittarius Saturn must learn to trust. They may be open and honest, or careless, rebellious and indecisive. Unless they learn to open up, they will continue to suffer. They may need to judge more carefully or learn what is appropriate and what is not. Once they work through their issues they can become a recognized authority in their chosen field or gain distinction in some other way.

Physically, Saturn in Sagittarius may suffer difficulties with the muscles, hips, sciatic nerve and liver. Exercise is important to keep flexibility in these areas.

Which way does the Sagittarius symbol point?

Up towards the heavens like fire, of course!


47 posted on 03/13/2014 9:46:44 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

“On qq, it shows when your phone is on.”

So what would cause QQ to show these smartphones as being on and online for three days after the crash? Can anyone explain that one to me?

Maybe Jonah’s whale popped up, ate them, and then spit them out on land near a cellphone tower?

Bueller?... Bueller?... Bueller?


48 posted on 03/13/2014 9:49:30 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The only problem in that is the 777-200 massive wing span, you need a massively open area land one and length of a runway is not a problem as she can land with as little as 5000 feet, if I remember correctly she has the same brakes and thrust reversers as the C-17.


49 posted on 03/13/2014 9:50:07 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: VRWC For Truth
Red herring. There are no cell phone towers in the middle of the ocean.

If in the plane was in the middle of the ocean, the of course. But by the time the families realized something was amiss an started checking the phones it could have been over land according to the most recent speculation.

If the plane never made it to land, certainly you are correct.

50 posted on 03/13/2014 9:50:34 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Trueblackman

If the engines’ satellite pings were being done once every hour, after the 4th ping (that followed the turning off of the plane’s transponders) there would be an addition hour of flight time before the 5th pinging engaged. So the possible flight radius can be increased by another hour’s flight distance. That brings the radius out to cover Afghanistan and a significant chunk of Iran.

There are a lot of “suitable” flat areas in the Iranian desert in which an experienced pilot could land. Just because the transponders were turned off doesn’t mean all the navigation instruments and equipment wasn’t functioning. The pilots could have entered some predetermined (and previously scouted) coordinates and flew the plane there to land and meet up with confederates awaiting them. This is definitely NOT beyond the realm of possibilities.


51 posted on 03/13/2014 9:51:02 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Trueblackman

If a hangar was constructed before this went down then that wouldn’t be a problem at ll.


52 posted on 03/13/2014 9:54:08 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Trueblackman

I think it was stolen and landed in Bangladesh.

Just a Theory and putting it out there.


53 posted on 03/13/2014 9:54:55 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

“On qq, it shows when your phone is on. “

The only way a cell phone system can tell if your phone is on is if it is still connecting with a tower somewhere. If your phone is on and you go out of range (or drown your phone in the ocean) the system has no idea that it has changed states. IF the phone is on and in range then the service provider would easily know where it was, or at least what tower it was connecting with.

Bottom line: The cell phones “ringing” or phone systems indicating that they are still on doesn’t mean a bloody thing.


54 posted on 03/13/2014 9:58:07 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You don’t even need a hanger as canmo does not show up well on downward looking satellite and remember during WW2, the Japanese hid a whole airfield from recon aircraft in the Pacific.


55 posted on 03/13/2014 9:59:50 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: Trueblackman

You’d be surprised what spy sats can do these days...


56 posted on 03/13/2014 10:00:27 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You left off shibboleth. A good word to separate sheep from goat humpers...


57 posted on 03/13/2014 10:04:55 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“So what would cause QQ to show these smartphones as being on and online for three days after the crash? Can anyone explain that one to me?”

Let me try this one more time: The only way the phone system can know the phone has been turned off is if the phone tells the system that it is being turned off. If the phone dies or is destroyed it never tells the system it is off. So the system believes the phone is still on. After some default period of never connecting with the phone, the swystem may decide to consider the phone “off”, likely after several days of no contact with the phone.


58 posted on 03/13/2014 10:10:00 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nik Naym

With the same phone you could just jerk the battery out without going through the proper shutdown and the phone system thinks it’s still on? How about the phone system detecting whether there any signal coming from the phone?


59 posted on 03/13/2014 10:12:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Nik Naym

I’d like to see an expert’s opinion on this before I make a decision.


60 posted on 03/13/2014 10:16:43 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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