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Whatever Happened to Hitler's Body?
mentalfloss ^ | Matt Soniak

Posted on 05/02/2014 8:19:23 AM PDT by virgil283

"With the remains in their possession, the team disguised themselves as fishermen and drove into the mountains, stopping at a cliff along a small stream. There, in a spot screened by trees, they lit two campfires. One was to make soup. The other, to further burn the remains.

Gumenyuk has called the second cremation a waste of a can of gasoline, but the remains were finally burned to ashes. They collected these in a rucksack, which Gumenyuk took onto the cliff and opened up into the wind. With that, one of history’s greatest monsters disappeared, a brown cloud of dust in the wind.

Today, Gumenyuk is 73-years-old and retired from the KGB. He is the only surviving member of the team that disposed of Hitler’s remains and the only living person who knows where the ashes were spread. Still afraid the peaceful woods would become a pilgrimage site, he has vowed to take his secret to his grave. Despite the large amounts of money he’s been offered to reveal the location and the attention he’s gotten for what he did, Gumenyuk doesn’t seem to think his task was all that special. “Twenty seconds—and job was done,” he told The Sun last year. “It was just the last flight of the Führer.” [H/T American Digest]

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Military/Veterans; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: gumenyuk; hitler; kgb; wwii
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To: virgil283

Burned supposedly


21 posted on 05/02/2014 9:23:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: rlmorel; dfwgator
Well played! But let's not bicker and argue over who killed who!


22 posted on 05/02/2014 9:25:15 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: virgil283

It takes a crematorium over 2 hours and a temperature approaching 2000 degrees to reduce a human body to ash. This guy did it with a campfire and a couple of gallons of gas?


23 posted on 05/02/2014 9:27:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DCBryan1

That brings a smile to my face every time I think of it...

After they slaughter the entire wedding party...just brilliant!


24 posted on 05/02/2014 9:28:14 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: virgil283

Ok, that solves Hitler. Now, where’s Hoffa?


25 posted on 05/02/2014 9:31:55 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: eastforker

Ditto. The version I’ve heard in documentaries (and probably from this same guy) is that the original incineration (which was in a pit just outside the bunker, using gasoline, while Goebbels in full uniform gave the heil-hitler salute; the next day he poisoned his wife, children, and himself, and the bodies were similarly partially incinerated) wasn’t too thorough. The first burial spot was the pit itself.

The Red Army took the city, and people who knew where the remains were spilled the beans (under compulsion). The Soviets wanted verification that Hitler was indeed dead. The remains of Hitler and Eva Braun were exhumed, autopsied to verify the identities, Eva Braun was found to have been pregnant at the time of her death, and the remains were reburied in a different spot. Then a short while later they were re-exhumed, incinerated, and the ashes were scattered.

A chunk of what the Soviets believed was Hitler’s cranium was sent to Stalin at some point (along with other trophies, such as some of Hitler’s paintings and other belongings), either after the first exhumation, or after the second one. The fragment was DNA tested, sez the wiki-wacky, and turned out to be a woman (Eva Braun?).

The problem with disposal by cremation is, a crematorium is needed to raise the temperature enough to destroy the bones and teeth. The alternative way to do it is to burn at a lower temperature for a much longer period of time.


26 posted on 05/02/2014 9:57:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Did Hitler flee bunker with Eva to Argentina, have two daughters and live to 73?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3084635/posts?page=53#53


27 posted on 05/02/2014 10:06:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: virgil283

He didn’t kill himself in the bunker. Too many nazi conflicting stories there. And you can’t trust the commie bastards either.


28 posted on 05/02/2014 10:14:24 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: virgil283

I don’t care much about what happened to his body.I’m far more interested in what I recently read for the first time...that Stalin had Patton murdered.That’s the first time such a possibility even occurred to me (naive little me) but it certainly seems very possible that that’s what happened.


29 posted on 05/02/2014 10:14:52 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: RitchieAprile; liege
reassuring that I’m not the only one who comments before reading the articles..

I've sort of made it a tradition.

30 posted on 05/02/2014 10:25:16 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Gay State Conservative

The Patton allegations:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1622901/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3143083/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3150755/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2152105/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2152563/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2644969/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2962192/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3135316/posts

It was just a stupid auto accident; as much as I love Patton, if Stalin had wanted Patton dead, Patton would have been dead.

sidebar, Stalin called off two attempts on Hitler:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2520898/posts

The Patton weather prayer:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2647671/posts


31 posted on 05/02/2014 10:59:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: virgil283

That photo shows the poor bastard who was kept around as a decoy, iow, to draw fire. He was executed I think.


32 posted on 05/02/2014 11:01:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
It was just a stupid auto accident; as much as I love Patton, if Stalin had wanted Patton dead, Patton would have been dead.

So,given the state of affairs at that time,Stalin would have sent a KGB agent to walk up to Patton...from in front of behind...and shoot him in the head? Do you recall that incident in London...I think it was in the 70's or 80's...where a Bulgarian dissident was murdered by KGB agents who used an umbrella designed to propel poison pellets into a person? The guy said that someone bumped into him at a Tube station,"accidentally" poked him the ribs with his umbrella and,viola...a few hours later he felt ill.And not long after that he was dead.

33 posted on 05/02/2014 11:11:29 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: SunkenCiv; Gay State Conservative

One more: http://nypost.com/2010/12/19/was-patton-killed/


34 posted on 05/02/2014 11:42:36 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: virgil283

Didn’t Jay Carney tell us that after Obama killed him with his bare hands , the body was washed and promptly dumped into the sea (as we are told is the Islamic tradition)?


35 posted on 05/02/2014 12:34:19 PM PDT by philled (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: pallis
I hope someone took a leak on the smoldering ashes, no matter which burning event was Hitler’s last.

Meanwhile our President HONORED Osama Bin Laden with a respectful muslim burial ceremony AND the foreign national Boston Marathon bomber was secretly (location undisclosed but the event was acknowledged) buried on US soil even though his parents wanted the body returned to his homeland.

36 posted on 05/02/2014 12:43:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: SunkenCiv

How are Saddam Hussein’s decoys doing these days?


37 posted on 05/02/2014 12:46:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: virgil283

Hitler was killed in a 1944 assassination plot. It’s just that no one wanted the war to be over, so Germany was forced on with a Hitler double as its nominal leader for the rest of the war.


38 posted on 05/02/2014 12:50:15 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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