Skip to comments.A collision 4.5 billion years ago nearly destroyed our planet but instead helped start path to life
Posted on 06/15/2014 2:13:49 PM PDT by rickmichaels
Creation stories tend to be outlandish, in keeping with the near impossibility of explaining why the world is the way it is from the week-long labours of the Old Testament God, to the eternal cycles of the Hindu creator Brahma, to Ravens metaphysical trickery in Pacific Northwest First Nations tradition.
Fanciful as they are, however, these myths have nothing on modern science, whose creation story which already involves a mysterious Big Bang, perhaps one of many creations ex nihilo in infinite succession this week got even weirder.
At a geophysics conference in California, a series of discoveries was announced that show not for the first time, but in unprecedented detail the Earth as we know it today was born of a violent collision between two ancient planets, so forceful it reduced both to molten rock and silicate vapour, and nearly blasted both into cosmic smithereens.
It would have been a very, very bad day for the Earth, said Sujoy Mukhopadhyay, associate professor in the Earth and Planetary sciences Department at Harvard University. One potential outcome could have been complete destruction.
It came close. The cataclysmic meeting of the proto-Earth and the smaller, Mars-sized planet Theia known as the Big Splash set the Earth spinning faster than ever, tilted its axis by 23 degrees, and created the moon from the debris that was blasted into orbit.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalpost.com ...
They have footage of that collision. In color.
Hope they included the 7.1 surround audio for full effect ;^)
>Theia known as the Big Splash set the Earth spinning faster than ever, tilted its axis by 23 degrees, and created the moon from the debris that was blasted into orbit.
Thanks for the tides and the seasons Theia. She must have been hauling tail to not get caught in a solar orbit.
Ahhhh ... but the universe that was non-existent at one time created itself into existence by _____________ (fill in the blank) .... THAT makes more and/or better sense ... right ?
And all of this happened when a very large boy was playing marbles with a turtle while waiting to get their lizard mom’s car washed.
You see, I can make up stories too.
I often wonder why there is so much concern and dispute about “where” we came from. We are here.
Let’s focus on that.
>>a series of discoveries was announced that show not for the first time, but in unprecedented detail
Science!-tists sez: “Come on guys. Stop believing in God and believe in us! We need grant money more than he does. We made a YouTube video showing how the world was created. Where’s your God’s YouTube videos?”
G. K. Chesterton: He who does not believe in God will believe in anything. This is a glaring example. With no way to prove this, do these silly “scientists” really believe it?
"... but in unprecedented detail ..."
Show me. And I'm not interested in artistic conceptual drawings.
“...these myths have nothing on modern science...”
Well .. I think I’ll stick with the Bible’s version .. after all, GOD is smarter than all of them.
GOD created the human after his own image (GOD is not an amoeba or plant) .. meaning we have a brain and a free will to take on the world’s problems and solve them.
It is up to each individual to educate himself; and to seek out GOD’s wisdom.
I have yet to hear a logically coherent explanation for the creation of the universe, other than what I read in Genesis.
Isn’t that a song where the girl died, the dude plants a tree and watches it grow, etc?
A terrible F5 tornado blew through here recently. When I got to the disaster scene I found a table impeccably set with silver, crystal, porcelain China, and starched linens, a five course French dinner on the sideboard, and a 1982 Chateau Margaux waiting alongside. With a pitcher of Manhattans.
What’s the matter, don’t you believe in SCIENCE?
Science denier /S
The author of this appears to have picked up a dusty copy of Worlds in Collision by Velikovsky. He thinks it’s a new idea. Nothing new under the sun.
Wow.. Molten lava and silicon vapours.
Talk about glowball varming !!
Well, it’s always good to know we can all be wiped out
by a planetary collision, as if we didn’t have enough to
So where did Microsoft come up with..
Abort, Retry or Fail?
Our cosmic destiny?
Or just another attempt to explain
Since there is no official antonym of anything, it is reasonable to think of 'nothing.'
It certainly isn't 'everything,' since both anything and everything(in this case) both mean all things. As in He who does not believe in God will believe in all things.
He who does not believe in God will believe in anything.
He who does not believe in God will believe in everything.
or in logical reverse, one is left with something rather compromising:
He who does believe in God will believe in nothing.
What do you think? (of the grammar....)
The quote is attributed to him but he said in a number of ways. Check out this link: http://www.chesterton.org/ceases-to-worship/
Da floor iz lava!
Da red wunz go faster...
Since as they say, the Moon is mostly made of Theia, the obvious thing would be that unlike the picture, the two bodies did not hit “head on”, but that Theia hit Earth with an off-center blow, with much of it glancing off to form the Moon. Call it a contest between gravity and momentum.
. . . only NOW to have Man-induced Global Climate Change certain to doom our world
“Earth and Planetary sciences Department at Harvard University”
A university about as credible as the Onion is for news.
We have the ability to observe and find out. A far better question is why is there something, rather than nothing?
If there was nothing, who would be around to observe it, and what would they observe?
We can see light going back close to the beginning, and that tells about the state and composition of matter and energy in the Universe at that time. We can observe and know the laws of physics, which takes us back to an instant after the beginning. There’s no reason for us to be ignorant.
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Thank you Firesign Theater ... circa ... in the days of my youth.
Did Liberals back then blame Bush?
“They have footage of that collision. In color.”
Some of the light emitted from the collision still exists and is still traveling through space about 4.6 billion light years distant from us. If it were possible to collect that light in an observation instrument and resolve it into an image, you could still quite literally make a video recording of the event, and then bring it home to Earth using a transport method that does not require FTL (faster than light) travel such as an Einstein-Rosen Bridge.
It exists. Either it always did, or it came into existence. There is no other option.
“She must have been hauling tail to not get caught in a solar orbit.”
Theia was in a Solar orbit as indicated by the 5km/s collision speed. The orbits of proto-Earth and Theia intersected in the aftermath of the earlier collisions which formed those earlier bodies.
“If there was nothing, who would be around to observe it, and what would they observe?”
We are around today to observe the part of the light, radio, X-ray, Gamma-ray, and Cosmic ray energy which is just now arriving after a 4.6 billion year journey through the intervening space. The farther away an object is in space the farther back into time we can observe the events that were taking place when the electromagnetic energy departed the scene of the event. When we observe the star nearest to us, Proxima Centauri, we are observing what the star looked like and was doing about 4.2 years ago; because it took the light from that star about 4.2 years to travel through space and reach us here on the Earth.
When you look up into the sky at night in the general vicinity of the star Betelgeuse and the Orion nebula, there is a fuzzy nebular patch nearby which is the Andromeda galaxy of stars. Like our Milky Way Galaxy, the Andromeda Galaxy is a large spiral galaxy composed of a vast number of stars, dust, and gas. It is located about 2 million light years distant from us. When you stand outside and look at the Andromeda Galaxy, the light coming into your eyes left the Andromeda Galaxy about two million years ago, and that light is only just now arriving here on the Earth where it enters your eyes. This means the events we are now witnessing in the Andormeda Galaxy occurred about 2 million years ago, and we have no way of observing what is occurring in the Andromeda Galaxy at this moment in time.
In fact, when you look at the more than 6,000 stars visible with the naked eye in the night sky, what you are seeing is a composite view of time. This view is not how the Universe exists now at this moment in time. Instead, the view is distorted by the lag in the time it takes for the light to travel to us. Some of the stars seen in the night sky no longer exist at this time. They exploded and are dissipated into clouds of dust and gas splattered across their local space, or they have been torn apart and consumed by a Black Hole singularity. The cataclysmic events that destroyed these stars have not yet been observed on the Earth because the light emitted during these events have not yet traveled across the intervening space to reach us here on the Earth.
It is for that same reason we are able to see events that were taking place in the first hundreds of millions of years of the existence of the Universe, because the light and other electromagentic energies emitted by those events are only just now arriving here on the Earth from those most distant locations.
Firesign Theater is probably much more enjoyable to most people than learning calculus or physics.
why doesn't themoon rotate on its axis????seems to me that a glancing hit would create a rotation...
almost as much fun as Nick readin’ his name on his office wingow .... Regnad K’cin.
“why doesn’t themoon rotate on its axis????seems to me that a glancing hit would create a rotation...”
The Moon does rotate on its axis: one rotation per orbit around the Earth-Luna barycenter. The rotation was formerly different, but the Earth’s gravitational pull on the Moon/Luna locked the rotation down to one rotation per orbit.
After the local school shooting (Seattle Pacific University) and seeing the kids faith-filled response; widely covered in the media across the world I thought of them while singing it.
And again think of those lyrics when reading this thread.
I have no problem thinking that for some reason it was beneficial for the earth to be the way it was before it was struck and the moon created. And obviously it is beneficial to have the moon. Life would probably not be here if the moon wasn't the proper size and distance from the earth. (Plus - we get really cool solar eclipses - which of course means the sun is the perfect size and distance too!)
“Science!-tists sez: Come on guys. Stop believing in God and believe in us! We need grant money more than he does. We made a YouTube video showing how the world was created. Wheres your Gods YouTube videos?
Insofar as the Universe is God’s Creation, denial of the physical nature of the Universe is also denial of God’s Creation and God.
Does the Moon rotate?
The answer is yes. The rotation of the Moon or a lunar day lasts around 27.3 days. This is the same amount of time the Moon takes to complete one orbit around the Earth. Because the rotation of the Moon and the length of its orbit are (almost) exactly the same, the Moon always presents the same face to the Earth. However, because of its odd orbital path, at time, Earth can see 8 degrees more East or West of the Moon than is typical.
Another twist: The Moon differs from most satellites of other planets in that its orbit is close to the plane of the ecliptic, and not to the Earth’s equatorial plane.
The Moon’s orbit around the Earth has many irregularities (perturbations). The non-circular form of the lunar orbit causes variations in the Moon’s angular speed and apparent size as it moves towards and away from an observer on Earth.
That without the curse of evil we cannot have the blessings of good, that both are born of moral law, and that moral law necessitates a moral law Giver are reminders to us all that Mind formed the moon, the earth and the entire universe and this brings great comfort in the face of un-Godly bloodshed like the slaying of students with the assurance that the same Mind who brings his enemies to absolute justice will also bring his children to absolute peace.
Thanks rickmichaels. There is evidence which shows that no such impact gave birth to our Moon, and since the birth of the Moon is the only reason such a model was theorized in the first place, poof.
“Creation stories tend to be outlandish, in keeping with the near impossibility of explaining why the world is the way it is from the week-long labours of the Old Testament God,....”
The National Compst speaks. The creation of the earth in Genesis is NOT contradicted by this theory nor evolution.
I get spo sick and tired of seeing Judaeo-Christian religious beliefs trashed by the mainstream media and select clique of atheist professors and educators.
Forgetting the God who made us great is a certain way to assure America’s collapse - and they know it.