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Actor Richard Roxburgh condemns ancestors as he discovers his family 'owned' 109 slaves
UK Daily Mail ^ | July 26, 2014 | Lucy Chesterson

Posted on 07/28/2014 7:41:23 AM PDT by C19fan

Exploring his family's past for the first time, Richard Roxburgh uncovered a darker history than he anticipated- finding out his forefathers were enthusiastic supporters of the slave trade. The 52 year-old actor says he'd originally hoped the search would find his relatives 'lived good and rich lives, and contributed something.' But participating in the SBS series Who Do You Think You Are turned up a very different history.

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'Thomas was the ultimate capitalist,' the actor says. 'To my mind, it’s about the choices that you make in this life, and he made his choice. And they wouldn’t be my choices. He was a cog in the corporate machinery that presided over one of the ugliest periods in human history'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ancestor; anticapitalist; hollywoodreds; slavery; usefulidiot
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What a sanctimonious wanker.
1 posted on 07/28/2014 7:41:23 AM PDT by C19fan
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And they wouldn’t be my choices

Real easy to say today. Like people who say if the lived in Germany in the 30s, they would have opposed Hitler. Guess what? 90% of them would have been right there in the crowd shouting "Sieg Heil."

2 posted on 07/28/2014 7:42:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: C19fan
This guy is blonde, right?
3 posted on 07/28/2014 7:43:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: C19fan
one of the ugliest periods in human history

Actors don't have much time to read history books.

4 posted on 07/28/2014 7:44:25 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: C19fan

Greed and slavery are not definitions of Capitalism.

These idiots don’t even know what capitalism is. It is the rule of law (thus ensuring contracts); it is the movement of capital from those with an excess to those with ambition and ideas; it is distribution by merit.


5 posted on 07/28/2014 7:45:20 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: C19fan

My response to the finding out such news would be an indifferent shrug. That was just how things were done in that time and I’m not going to judge my ancestors by today’s standards. I imagine all of us, if we went far enough back, could find things our ancestors did that wouldn’t be kosher by the standards of today....


6 posted on 07/28/2014 7:45:56 AM PDT by apillar
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To: C19fan
Actor Richard Roxburgh condemns ancestors as he discovers his family 'owned' 109 slaves

Put his name on the list of people we send a bill to when Jesse, Al, Holder and Hussein decide that we owe reparations for slavery.

7 posted on 07/28/2014 7:46:20 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want 0bama to make history - First to be IMPEACHED and REMOVED!)
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To: C19fan

Put him on the list to take all his assets in order to pay “reparations”


8 posted on 07/28/2014 7:47:54 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: C19fan

He must need work. U$ performers attack 1. Bush 2. Palin 3. the GOP, if the rent is owed.


9 posted on 07/28/2014 7:48:44 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: C19fan

who??

let him know they also condemned homos ... and the self loathing will be complete


10 posted on 07/28/2014 7:51:06 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: C19fan

They were all greedy Democrats.


11 posted on 07/28/2014 7:51:14 AM PDT by Politicalkiddo (You cannot protect a child from child abuse by aborting it. Abortion *is* child abuse.)
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To: C19fan

Hey Dick, might I suggest a warm bathtub of water and a razor blade to ease your pain?


12 posted on 07/28/2014 7:51:34 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Maybe he could just write a big check to Jesse Jackson to assuage that White Guilt of his.


13 posted on 07/28/2014 7:52:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: C19fan

Since his gg-grandfather had sugar plantations in the Caribbean, it’s a good bet that many of his slaves were Irish as well as black.


14 posted on 07/28/2014 7:52:08 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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To: C19fan

As an act of solemn contrition then, he should commit suicide and be absolved of the sins of the father.


15 posted on 07/28/2014 7:52:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: C19fan
Not defending slavery (the Bible condemns menstealers (slavers) - 1 Tim 1:10), but the alternative was that the African tribesmen who conquered their fellow tribesmen would have just killed them - rather than sold them; or have sold them to muslims who would have castrated the men captives.

If Actor Richard Roxburgh is so appalled, he should go to the Sudan and fight the present day islamic slavers.

16 posted on 07/28/2014 7:58:03 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: C19fan

It was the in thing ,like a few years`ago people owned Pet Rocks


17 posted on 07/28/2014 7:58:38 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: C19fan

Richard Roxburgh: Owning slaves is bad. Forcing a man to provide according to his ability for another man according to his needs is good.

Richard, I suspect you have more in common with your ancestor than you think.


18 posted on 07/28/2014 7:58:39 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: C19fan

“presided over one of the ugliest periods in human history”

That time wasn’t even close to being one of the ugliest periods in history.


19 posted on 07/28/2014 8:02:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: El Cid

Good point. Liberals talking about slavery and our past sins, are not addressing that slavery still happens in some places today.

Ditto, these issues with liberal females and “war on women”. Given the treatment of women in some parts of the world, these liberals attention is best focused there, rather than bitching about birth control pills in a country in which they have full equal rights.


20 posted on 07/28/2014 8:03:11 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: C19fan

I’m sure his ancestors would be proud of him, too. /s


21 posted on 07/28/2014 8:03:14 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: C19fan

He should liquidate his assets and give them all to the reparations fund for penance, and quit his posturing.


22 posted on 07/28/2014 8:03:34 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: C19fan

In my genealogical research I found a Klan member in the 20s and I found 2 who were captured and enslaved by northeast indians in the 1500s.

((shrug))


23 posted on 07/28/2014 8:05:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: C19fan

Oh, big deal! I used Ancestry.com only to find out my great, great grandfather was a NYC copperhead who wrote cringing letters to the government to try to get out of fighting for the Union. Yes, I was hoping my great, great grandfather was an upstanding soldier who received the first medal of honor but life has a way of throwing curve balls. Get over it, Ricky!


24 posted on 07/28/2014 8:07:18 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: cripplecreek

Wouldn’t that be in the 1700s?


25 posted on 07/28/2014 8:07:32 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: cripplecreek

I have one that came over in 1640, probably as an indentured servant.


26 posted on 07/28/2014 8:10:40 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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What a sanctimonious wanker.


The (sometimes moronic) UK Daily Mail,
is also taking a swipe @ Free Enterprise

I refuse to use the word, Capitalist..a term, Karl Marx used.

27 posted on 07/28/2014 8:11:05 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Mullah / "Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: dfwgator

“Guess what? 90% of them would have been right there in the crowd shouting ‘Sieg Heil.’”
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Just like we’re doing today with this jug eared, Marxist, punk we call President.


28 posted on 07/28/2014 8:12:06 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: ladyjane

Late 1560s to early 1600s.


29 posted on 07/28/2014 8:14:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: C19fan

I had an ancestor who was, literally, a carpet bagger. Went down south and made his fortune and then went back to VT where he lived out his days as a gentleman farmer. In fact, I am the last family member to still own a piece of that property. I think I will give it away to make up for my shame.

Not.


30 posted on 07/28/2014 8:15:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: C19fan

He could always become informed about modern slavery in Africa and the Middle East. Then he could use his celebrity status to oppose it.


31 posted on 07/28/2014 8:19:01 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: driftdiver

Mine were among the earliest settlers in New Hampshire.


32 posted on 07/28/2014 8:20:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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who??

Here's his photo, the BBC Series; RAKE must be in trouble
and he is trying to gain additional publicity in the USA


33 posted on 07/28/2014 8:23:10 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Mullah / "Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: El Cid; All
If Actor Richard Roxburgh is so appalled, he should go to
the Sudan and fight the present day Islamic slavers.
that works, then he can come to the
USA and free US from 0'Mullah

b/c the Marxists in Congress won't...

34 posted on 07/28/2014 8:27:31 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Mullah / "Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: C19fan

What a sanctimonious wanker.

Bing Bing Bing........... Very first post and we have a winner!


35 posted on 07/28/2014 8:27:57 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: C19fan

You know, at the most basic level slavery is where one person is forced to labor for the benefit of somone else.

Nowadays we call that “taxation”.


36 posted on 07/28/2014 8:32:47 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: C19fan

Wait until his decendents, assuming he can have any, learn about him. Causing people to watch him on an electronic source that was largely supplied by “non-renewable energy sources”, sold little plastic discs (DVDs) also made from evil hydrocarbons, or that people watched his image preserved on celluloid, another hydrocarbon product, flew around the world in a pollution spewing plane to make and promote these evil products for his own self aggrandizement and profit.

Pure evil.


37 posted on 07/28/2014 8:33:25 AM PDT by rey
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Several decades back I visited the site of the Battle of Culloden in Scotland. A depressing place. After the defeat of the Highlanders the British government sold a lot of them into slavery in the colonies.


38 posted on 07/28/2014 8:36:38 AM PDT by Rockpile
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Yeah the majority would have been right there in the crowd OR,/i> they would have been treated just like the Jews. Amazing that some people still believe as you.
39 posted on 07/28/2014 8:49:08 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: C19fan

When I did ancestry research back in the 70s and 80s pre-internet, I discovered that my g-g-g-grandfather on my father’s side was a plantation slaveowner, but that two g-g-grandfathers on my mother’s side fought for the Union, one of whom was one of four brothers, with two each fighting on each side of the war. Over 200 years earlier, the slaveowner’s g-g-g-g-grandfather came over as an indentured servant, worked his seven years, and got his 100 acres. I am proud of my indentured servant ancestor, not proud of my slaveowning ancestor, but I am not defined by either, but by my own actions, and by my own opposition to all forms of worldly slavery.


40 posted on 07/28/2014 8:50:29 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Hey,Richie, kill yourself! Then,we’ll be square.


41 posted on 07/28/2014 8:56:27 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: miss marmelstein
Yes, I was hoping my great, great grandfather was an upstanding soldier who received the first medal of honor but life has a way of throwing curve balls.

Perhaps your great-great-grandfather (note lack of commas) had other, better character traits.

Regards,

42 posted on 07/28/2014 9:00:44 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: C19fan

Thats about a low as it gets throwing your family under the bus.


43 posted on 07/28/2014 9:03:05 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: C19fan

My guess is that just about everyone alive today probably had an ancestor who was a slave or owned a slave at some time during human being’s existence on the planet.


44 posted on 07/28/2014 9:43:13 AM PDT by golf lover (goingf)
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To: C19fan

Just a point but I can barely impact my children’s behavior. My ancestors are somehow even less responsive.


45 posted on 07/28/2014 9:45:51 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s so interesting. I didn’t realize there were many Europeans here around 1560.


46 posted on 07/28/2014 10:02:28 AM PDT by ladyjane
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There weren’t a lot and few settlements survived but there were lots of attempts. In fact none of the settlements at that point made it.

St Augustine Florida is the oldest continuously populated settlement from around that time. Sault Ste. Marie Michigan wasn’t long after.


47 posted on 07/28/2014 10:14:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: C19fan

I still think the funniest one was when black comedienne Wanda Hicks (is that right name I ask myself?) - her ancestors owned slaves. lol She imagined her ancestors were slaves but found out some gr, gr whatever was a free black man who owned slaves. I thought she was going to cry right there on tv.

Of course she postured that it was just to save those slaves from being owned by someone who was mean to them so he bought them from the goodness of his heart (or some such similar bull).


48 posted on 07/28/2014 10:22:10 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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You know in researching my family history, I found several that owed slaves as well. I even have a copy of a will that states the two slaves he owned, a married man and woman were to be given a place to live and taken care of.

I thought it was very interesting. You cannot run away from your ancestry good or bad.


49 posted on 07/28/2014 1:41:48 PM PDT by waxer1 (A Republic if you can keep it--Benjamin Franklin. Well we lost it.)
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To: ozarkgirl

I love it! God truly does have a sense of humor.


50 posted on 07/28/2014 2:07:53 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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