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Giant Ocean Arthropod Rivals Largest in History
Real Clear Science ^ | March 11, 2015 | Ross Pomeroy

Posted on 03/11/2015 12:36:46 PM PDT by C19fan

A trio of paleontologists has announced the discovery of a fossil belonging to a new species of ancient arthropod that rivals the largest ever found. They detail their finding in Wednesday's publication of the journal Nature.

Hundreds of millions of years ago, arthropods, which include modern-day spiders, insects, and crustaceans, were much larger, and we're not talking the size of a small dog. An extinct millipede called Arthropleura reached up to 8.5 feet in length, making it the largest land invertebrate ever known to exist. Jaekelopterus rhenaniae, which extended 8.2 feet, dwelled in the water (pictured right).

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science
KEYWORDS: arthropleura; arthropod; crustaceans; godsgravesglyphs; insects; marinebiology; millipede; ordovician; ordovicianperiod; palentology; paleontology; spiders
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To: central_va

The first apex predator.


21 posted on 03/11/2015 1:09:28 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: central_va

I posted this a few months ago about palentologists identified a cousin of Anomalocaris that was bigger but a filter feeder.


22 posted on 03/11/2015 1:10:39 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

That Lobster is a stone crab


23 posted on 03/11/2015 1:12:50 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert
That Lobster is a stone crab

Which is why I said I prefer...

...wait for it...

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...crab.

24 posted on 03/11/2015 1:26:47 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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To: C19fan
he largest land invertebrate ever known to exist

I don't know about that ... There are some pretty hefty invertebrates on the GOP side of the aisle in Congress.

25 posted on 03/11/2015 1:41:48 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: GraceG

It wasn’t just extra oxygen. The key that is hardly ever mentioned is that the atmospheric pressure must have been much higher as well. High enough, in fact, that the atmosphere’s pressure allowed extremely large creatures to live on land, due to buoyancy, like they still do below the oceans.

If you just had more oxygen in the atmosphere, but the same pressure, then creatures would not have grown much larger than they do today. They would have reached their full size faster, but they couldn’t grow much larger.


26 posted on 03/11/2015 1:50:26 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
It wasn’t just extra oxygen. The key that is hardly ever mentioned is that the atmospheric pressure must have been much higher as well. High enough, in fact, that the atmosphere’s pressure allowed extremely large creatures to live on land, due to buoyancy, like they still do below the oceans.

Sorry, but if you even DOUBLED the air density - i.e., the number of molecules of N2 and O2 per ccm - that would only increase it from about 1.4 gm/liter to 2.8 gm/liter. An animal weighing 100 kg and having a density of about 1 gm/ccm (like a human) would experience a reduction in perceived weight (due to the added buoyancy) of only 140 grams. That is negligible.

If you increased the air density by 10X, that STILL only reduces the apparent weight of a 100-kg human by 1.4 kg - or by 1.4%.

Regards,

27 posted on 03/11/2015 2:01:04 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

“Sorry, but if you even DOUBLED the air density...”

Notice I said much higher? Even doubling the pressure is not enough to allow the size of terrestrial animals (and extremely large fliers) we see in the fossil record, so it must have been much higher than even that. I’d guess we are talking on the order of several hundred atmospheres, at least.


28 posted on 03/11/2015 2:18:44 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: alexander_busek

OTOH, the partial pressure of oxygen would double.

There would be roughly half again as much available oxygen due to the 21 to 30% increase, TIMES TWO due to the pressure increase.

These critters were 3X turbocharged!


29 posted on 03/11/2015 2:18:44 PM PDT by null and void (Obama has received so many Pinocchios Valerie JarretÂ’s secret service code name is Geppetto.)
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To: C19fan
The Blue Whale of the Ordovician:


30 posted on 03/11/2015 2:20:06 PM PDT by null and void (Obama has received so many Pinocchios Valerie JarretÂ’s secret service code name is Geppetto.)
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To: Slyfox

To #16. You’ve got Hillary’s head on the wrong end of the cow.


31 posted on 03/11/2015 2:55:23 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: C19fan
The author gets his whales wrong. The giant anthropod was a filter feeder therefore the Blue Whale of the Ordovician.

That's one whale of a mistake.

32 posted on 03/11/2015 3:00:43 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Slyfox

To #16. You’ve got Hillary’s head on the wrong end of the cow.

Reposting> Don’t know if the original attempt succeeded.

Never had a problem with a typewriter!


33 posted on 03/11/2015 3:05:07 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
But, this is on the other side:


34 posted on 03/11/2015 4:37:13 PM PDT by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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To: EternalVigilance

The infamous Wyoming jackalope!


35 posted on 03/11/2015 5:24:17 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Slyfox

Ah yes, the Keith Olbermann tattoo for horses. I remember them well. Put Ed Schulz on the other side, a sort of “turn the other cheek” effect.


36 posted on 03/11/2015 6:16:19 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: null and void

#30. The whale ate a chair. That’s all.


37 posted on 03/11/2015 6:16:58 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: Slyfox

Looks like that poor cow has its legs on backwards.


38 posted on 03/11/2015 6:57:14 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Boogieman

Try mixing high pressure oxygenated atmosphere with combustibles!


39 posted on 03/11/2015 11:06:30 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

Neurotoxic also for scuba at 160 kPa oxygen partial pressure.


40 posted on 03/11/2015 11:18:27 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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