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Walmart fires employee for subduing burglary suspect
KDVR.com ^ | 11/21/2017 | Rob Low

Posted on 11/22/2017 8:23:55 AM PST by simpson96

COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A 31-year-old Colorado man says Walmart fired him for doing his job.

Ramon asked his last name and hometown not be used, not because he fears retaliation from Walmart, but because he's worried about the countless shoplifters he helped the Commerce City Police Department arrest as an asset protection associate for the nation's largest retailer.

Ramon was fired Nov. 10 after subduing a store burglary suspect four days earlier.

"All I was trying to do was do my job, the best I could," Ramon said.

Surveillance video shows Ramon getting sucker punched in the eye by the 21-year-old suspect, Juan Izalbe.

The video then shows Ramon tackling Izalbe and holding him on the ground until police arrived and handcuffed Izalbe.

"(Izalbe) flat out told me 'I'm schizophrenic, I don't know what I'm going to do,'" Ramon said, explaining why he bear hugged the suspect to the floor, "When someone says something likes that, you have to take those threats seriously."

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KEYWORDS: assault; burglary; walmart
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1 posted on 11/22/2017 8:23:55 AM PST by simpson96
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To: simpson96

Uhh..that would be “assault suspect”.

Walmart sucks.


2 posted on 11/22/2017 8:26:10 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: simpson96

There have been other such stories, where stores fire employees who subdue shoplifters. Why would they be fired?

Yes I know they violated the corp. policy, but if corp. policy is not to interfere with shoplifters, you and I pay the price, in the form of higher prices for everything we honest people pay for.

The question would be why is the corp. policy to let shoplifters do anything without interruption??


3 posted on 11/22/2017 8:26:54 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: simpson96

Walmart has a policy that employees are supposed to ignore shoplifters. If someone is carrying out a big 52” tv, he’s free to do so and no one is supposed to stop him.

Thank you for shopping Walmart. Come again, soon.


4 posted on 11/22/2017 8:29:48 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: simpson96

I knew a kid who worked at Dicks sporting goods.

He told me they were trained not to interfere with shoplifters in any way. Report it to the manager, and have them call police.

He witnessed twice a group of thugs simply picking up the latest sneakers, and walking out.

I think its a new form of welfare.


5 posted on 11/22/2017 8:30:22 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The bigger issue is that the employee is expected to follow the corporate policy without exception. I don't shop at Wal-Mart and I don't work there, so I really don't care one way or another.

I can understand exactly why the company has a policy like that, though. Having employees interact with customers -- even thieves among them -- in an adversarial way like that is probably one of the biggest exposures to physical harm and civil lawsuits that the company has.

6 posted on 11/22/2017 8:34:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: simpson96

He was assaulted by an armed suspect and had every right to defend himself.


7 posted on 11/22/2017 8:34:54 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: simpson96

true story:
I saw a woman shop lift from a Wal-Mart in south Florida. Middle aged black woman took some stuff from a checkout lane, walked through, and began to head for the door. She also had some cleaning supplies—like a broom and some other items.

I said, loudly to the people working—HEY! She is walking out! She didn’t pay! She looked back, scared, but continued to walk.

The employees didn’t do anything. I looked at them as she walked out the door...

Afterwards, an employee kind of shrugged and said, “We can’t do anything about it, sometimes they just get away.”

I couldn’t believe it if I had not see it with my own eyes.


8 posted on 11/22/2017 8:35:16 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: bgill
bgill :" Walmart has a policy that employees are supposed to ignore shoplifters "

The Wal-Mart employee was working as an asset protection associate for the nation's largest retailer.
Anyone who has worked for Wal-Mart knows that asset protection and security video is there for insurance purposes,
to prevent premeditated false injury claims, and employee theft.

9 posted on 11/22/2017 8:35:41 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: PGR88

Breaking into a cash register goes way beyond shoplifting.


10 posted on 11/22/2017 8:36:29 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Walmart years ago decided that anything under $25, at the time, wasn’t worth the effort and cost of prosecuting them. Simply banning them from their stores was all they would do.....................


11 posted on 11/22/2017 8:41:21 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: simpson96

It’s dangerous to shop at Walmart
They allow criminals to operate freely in their stores. Pass the word.


12 posted on 11/22/2017 8:41:21 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: bgill

And if that guy has a weapon, and kills that staff person, are you going to have anything to offer the family other than prayers and condolences?

You see it, report it. No one needs to be injured or die for stuff. These companies have that stuff budget Ed.


13 posted on 11/22/2017 8:43:09 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: simpson96

Walmart to burglars/shoplifters: Help yourself to whatever and have a nice day.


14 posted on 11/22/2017 8:45:29 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: simpson96

Loser the other day in my neck of the woods doused some bank teller with gasoline, walked out with a duffel bag full of cash.


15 posted on 11/22/2017 8:53:15 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (FUMSM)
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To: simpson96

Flat out told me ‘I’m schizophrenic, I don’t know what I’m going to do,bet Hillary wished she thought of that excuse.


16 posted on 11/22/2017 8:55:43 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: simpson96

This makes sense. I mean, we are prosecuting police officers for “exessive force” — what will happen to Walmart if their employee attacks a guest? Even if the guest is proven to be a shoplifter?

Walmart can watch a million dollars walk out the door, and come out ahead of the 1 10-million dollar wrongful injury suit they might lose.

If I was an employee and saw a guest actually physically threatening someone, I’d risk my job. Not for some TV set, when the company told me not to.

I work as a halloween haunt monster at a theme park (it’s a fun gig), and we are told not to touch guests even if they attack us (self-defense isn’t punished, but you don’t chase or go on the attack or retaliate). I just learned that even most of the security guards can’t touch guests, only the ones that have been through special police training.


17 posted on 11/22/2017 8:56:33 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Yeah... the company has juggled all the pro’s and con’s (they have one building at their headquarters solely dedicated to LAWYERS) and has chosen to do what it has chosen to do.

If we want to help here, we shouldn’t be beating on Walmart. We should be beating on our legislators and other government to not put people like Walmart into Catch-22’s.


18 posted on 11/22/2017 9:00:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: PGR88

Don’t you know, stopping a shoplifter is racist?


19 posted on 11/22/2017 9:01:40 AM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance, Ignorance masquerading as Intelligence)
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To: simpson96

China knows how to treat thieves.


20 posted on 11/22/2017 9:02:57 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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