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Was Alexander the Great Gay? What the Historians Say
Greek Reporter ^ | February 2, 2024 | Alexander Gale

Posted on 02/02/2024 6:40:53 PM PST by nickcarraway

Yet another Netflix documentary on the ancient world has proven controversial, this time with the depiction of Alexander the Great as gay.

In the opening episode of “Alexander: The Making of a God,” which started airing on Netflix on January 31, Alexander, played by Buck Braithwaite, kisses his friend Hephaestion on the mouth and body, as they engage in an intimate embrace.

The portrayal of the ancient Macedonian king as a homosexual has generated angry responses from some viewers who feel that the documentary is distorting history. Meanwhile, The new Netflix series promises to reveal the “extraordinary life of Alexander the Great,” per the official synopsis, but how accurate are the claims surrounding the sexuality of history’s greatest conquerer?

Ongoing Controversy: Alexander the Great’s Gay Representations This is not the first time that Alexander the Great’s sexuality has caused controversy. Director Oliver Stone’s 2004 depiction of the Macedonian king as homosexual in the movie “Alexander” was similarly divisive.

Grecian Delight supports Greece On one end of the spectrum, various gay rights activists and LGBTQ websites praise Alexander the Great as an iconic “gay hero”. On the opposite end of that spectrum, a riot erupted in Thessaloniki in 2002, during a historical symposium on Alexander’s sexuality, requiring a police force of forty to protect the delegates.

The fact that a historical figure’s sexuality is a point of such intense controversy some 2,347 years after their death certainly complicates objective efforts to get to the bottom of the matter. Before we can even begin to answer whether Alexander the Great was gay, we need to consider the social and historical context. This is because contemporary conceptions of sexuality would be an anathema to the ancient Greeks.

Whereas today, sexual identities such as “gay”, “lesbian”, or “straight” are assigned to people based on the genders of those they are attracted to, the ancient Greeks (and Romans) believed that sexuality was defined by the role one played during an intimate act.

As Ruth Mazo Karras writes in an academic paper for the American Historical Review, the Greeks and Romans “categorized sexual behaviors or identities not by the gender of the participants but by the sexual role each played.”

“Key to the distinction of gender roles was the concept that men are active and women passive, or that men are penetrators and women penetrated,” Karras continues. “Thus anyone who is penetrated (or is in other ways passive) is gendered feminine, and anyone who penetrates is masculine.”

Therein lies the first difficulty we encounter in trying to answer this question. The way Alexander and his contemporaries would have viewed sexual orientation would have been vastly different from how we view it today. The question itself is therefore anachronistic.

With that being said, we can examine the evidence as to whether Alexander had male lovers. This is again, a matter of intense debate between historians, who are certainly not immune to their own biases.

The most famous of Alexander’s alleged male lovers is Hephaestion, his boyhood friend who would accompany him on his campaigns until the latter died in 324 BC.

Another is Bagoas, a eunuch in the court of the Persian Empire with whom Alexander is said to have had amorous encounters.

The main difficulty with establishing the historicity of these alleged lovers is the range of sources available. As Maggie Jonsson explains in the Wittenberg History Journal, “no primary sources remain. Therefore, all the information obtained by modern scholars has to come from secondary and tertiary sources that may have had access to these initial sources.”

Arrian, Plutarch, Diodorus Siculus, Quintus Curtius Rufus, Justin, and Aelius wrote the main ancient texts on Alexander’s life. However, these writers were not contemporaries of Alexander.

The evidence for a romance between Alexander and Hephaestion is inferential. According to the ancient sources, Alexander was overwhelmed with grief when Hephaestion died. For instance, Arrian wrote that Alexander “flung himself on the body of his friend and lay there nearly all day long in tears, and refused to be parted from him until he was dragged away by force by his Companions.”

Some modern historians infer that Alexander’s grief over the death of Hephaestion is evidence that they were in a romantic relationship. Although this is possible, this inference is not strong enough to act as conclusive evidence and is essentially a matter of conjecture.

Bagoas is mentioned by Dicaearchus, Curtius Rufus, Plutarch, and Athenaeus. The implied homosexuality is less ambiguous in these sources. According to Rufus, Bagoas had previously been “intimate” with the Persian king Darius and was then “intimate with Alexander after his conquest.

In The Parallel Lives, Plutarch claims that “[Alexander’s] favorite, Bagoas, won the prize for song and dance, and then, all in his festal array, passed through the theatre and took his seat by Alexander’s side; at sight of which the Macedonians clapped their hands and loudly bade the king kiss the victor, until at last he threw his arms about him and kissed him tenderly.”

There is some debate concerning the historicity of Bagoas, given his mention by some of the sources and not others. For example, W. W. Tarn’s work dismisses Bagoas as an invention of Dicaearchus, whereas E. Badian argues that he was a real historical figure.

Some historians have argued very ardently one way or another over Alexander’s sexuality. For example, English author W. W. Tarn outright dismisses the notion that Alexander was gay, writing that “There is then not one scrap of evidence for calling Alexander homosexual.” However, Tarn’s argument is sometimes dismissed by other historians who argue that his Victorian outlook was biased.

Mary Renault offers the opposite argument in her biography of Alexander, paying particular attention to his relationship with Bagoas, claiming that Alexander held a lifelong attachment to him. However, Renault has also been accused of bias, owing to her views on sexuality and status as an openly lesbian writer of historical fiction.

Of course, a multitude of other historians have offered their views. Robin Lane Fox argues that Alexander may have been gay, whereas historians Peter Green and Daniel Ogden take a more neutral stance.

Generally, we know much more about the romantic relationships Alexander had with various women, even if mentions of these are likewise relatively scant in the ancient sources.

Alexander had three wives: Roxana, Stateira (sometimes called Barsine), and Parysatis II. According to Aristobulus, Alexander married Stateira and Parysatis at the same time during the Susa Weddings in 324 BC, whilst already being married to Roxana.

Interestingly, Alexander is said to have presented Drypetis to Hephaestion, who happened to be the daughter of Darius and the sister of his own wife. The intention was for Hephaestion’s offspring to be regarded as his own nephews and nieces.

Alexander the Great had one legitimate child, a son named Alexander IV of Macedon who was born in 323 BC to his wife Roxana, shortly after Alexander’s death.

Alexander is also said to have had other women lovers. Thaïs, initially known as the lover of Ptolemy I Soter, one of Alexander’s close companions, may have had a romantic relationship with Alexander himself.

Athenaeus’s mention of Alexander enjoying Thaïs’s company may suggest more than friendship, given her reputed wit and entertainment. However, this is again the kind of inferential evidence that is thrown around to support a romantic relationship between Alexander and Hephaestion. Following Alexander’s death, Ptolemy married Thaïs, who later became the mother of three of his children and potentially ascended to the role of Queen of Egypt.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Military/Veterans
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1 posted on 02/02/2024 6:40:53 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

He was Greek.
Well, Greek educated.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

(Asbestos shields up.)


2 posted on 02/02/2024 6:44:34 PM PST by tsomer
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To: nickcarraway

Good grief.

Give it a rest already people. (not you, nick)

This business of rewriting history to promote homosexuality has just gone on far enough.

WHo9 the heck cares if he was or not?


3 posted on 02/02/2024 6:45:20 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

I guess Greeks discuss it over ouzo.


4 posted on 02/02/2024 6:48:15 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Feel free to post that EVERY Western hero was gay...it doesn’t mean we need to believe it, nor does it mean that it was true, at all.


5 posted on 02/02/2024 6:52:30 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: nickcarraway

I seriously doubt it.


6 posted on 02/02/2024 6:53:19 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (Pets are no substitute for children)
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To: metmom
This business of rewriting history to promote homosexuality has just gone on far enough.

Well, when everyone in their world is queer they just naturally assume the ENTIRE world is all queer.

The screeching begins when they are told no, they are the only ones.

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7 posted on 02/02/2024 6:58:39 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: nickcarraway
It turns out all the great men of history were either gay, trans, or black.

Go figure.

8 posted on 02/02/2024 6:59:14 PM PST by Drew68 (Never forget that every person responsible for the nation's COVID policies totally got away with it.)
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To: nickcarraway

Wrong uniforms wrong spears wrong shields.


9 posted on 02/02/2024 6:59:37 PM PST by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: Drew68

And syphillis. In the 70’s, we were told they all had syphillis.


10 posted on 02/02/2024 7:09:31 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
His was father was Macedonian, not Greek; his mother was from Greek tribe in Epirus (modern Albania), and her mother was supposedly from the Troad. Alexander cut a wide swath with women, although this gay BS pops up (ahem) every so often. It's a juicy **** sandwich. There's also been a book claiming he was an alcoholic, which probably wasn't true, but at least that one is plausible. :^)

Alexander had to figure out how to cope with an army in India which used elephants as tanks, and also sneak his entire army across a river in the night, without boats, in order to get in place to fight the battle. His method of dealing with elephants was taught in military schools for the rest of antiquity. The Romans used it so effectively that the last major use of elephants in the Med basin was the Battle of Thapsus, which ended most of the thugs fighting Julius Caesar.

11 posted on 02/02/2024 7:15:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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This is hilarious.

https://www.ancestry.com/search/categories/42/?name=_Alexander+the+Great


12 posted on 02/02/2024 7:18:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: nickcarraway
Dedovshchina (Russian: дедовщина, lit. 'reign of old-timers') is the informal practice of hazing and abuse of junior conscripts historically in the Soviet Armed Forces and today in the Russian Armed Forces, Internal Troops, and to a much lesser extent FSB, Border Guards, as well as in other armed forces and special services of former Soviet Republics.

Alexander the Great went through something like that. So I wouldn't call that "gay". As you see, they're still doing in in the Russian military. No one is calling them "gay".

13 posted on 02/02/2024 7:21:33 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: nickcarraway

Alexander the Fabulous.


14 posted on 02/02/2024 7:34:10 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: nickcarraway
They are just deconstructing everybody who can't defend themselves anymore.

15 posted on 02/02/2024 7:34:11 PM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty)
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To: nickcarraway

The phalanx??


16 posted on 02/02/2024 7:41:10 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids (You may not take an interest in politics, but politics takes an interest in you "Pericles" )
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To: nickcarraway

The gay mafia is slowly rewriting every historical figure as a pansy.


17 posted on 02/02/2024 7:41:53 PM PST by pfflier
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To: EvilCapitalist

I doubt he had time for it, what with conquering all the known world at the time.


18 posted on 02/02/2024 7:48:50 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: metmom

Don’t really care, but I read the fiction historical trilogy on Alexander the Great in the early 1970’s by Mary Renault. The third novel The Persian Boy suggested Alexander had a castrated male slave boy as a concubine…
https://www.enotes.com/topics/persian-boy


19 posted on 02/02/2024 7:53:29 PM PST by antceecee
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To: metmom
Even had a NETFLIX 'reminder' set to watch it.

Not more than 10 minutes in, Barack & Big Mike are shoving homosexual embraces in my face. Good grief...

20 posted on 02/02/2024 7:55:23 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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