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Ballot evidence suggests Ron Paul planning to run as third party candidate
Beatweek ^ | August 17, 2012

Posted on 08/17/2012 7:42:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt Romney will not be on the ballot in Washington State, if a lawsuit from the Libertarian party succeeds. Citing a legal technicality which disqualifies the republican party from being considered a “major party” due to its failure to get a senate candidate on the ballot in 2010, libertarians appear to have the law on their side which would disqualify the republican party from being able to place its candidate on state ballots in November. That would remove Romney from the ballot, which would still allow his supporters to write in his name but would likely suppress the number of votes he would receive. Such ballot shenanigans are nothing new, as the republican party is working to rig voting hours in Ohio so that only percents which traditionally vote republican can show up early. But this isn’t Obama or the democratic party trying to get Romney removed from Washington ballots. It’s the libertarian party, which is far more closely allied with the republican party. In fact, while Ron Paul routinely runs for president as a republican candidate, he’s a libertarian who simply prefers to try to change the republican party from within (or prefers the greater spotlight provided by a major party) rather than trying to run as a third party candidate. Except now the libertarian party is attempting to suppress the Romney vote, even though most libertarians would rather see a republican win than a democrat if it were a two-man race. The bizarre yet very real explanation, then, is that Ron Paul is indeed planning to run as a third party candidate…

In past presidential elections, after Ron Paul failed to win the republican nomination, he stepped aside entirely. But 2012 may be different in that Mitt Romney is behind in every national poll and continues to fall, even as his brewing tax scandal threatens to implode his entire campaign. The best evidence of Romney’s lack of momentum is that when he chose ultra-conservative hero Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate, it made no positive impact on the polls whatsoever – a historical rarity which suggests he’s out of gas. This may have given Ron Paul second thoughts about running as a third candidate after all, and the sudden libertarian attempt to get Romney removed from the ballot may be the strongest clue yet…

There’s little chance that Ron Paul would win, as he’s a radical whose policies include cutting all off nearly government services and in fact scrapping several core government agencies in an extremist plan which falls somewhere between Romney’s rich-only policies and pure anarchy. But he does have a pack of enthusiastic supporters (most of whom have confused him for being a harmless old uncle type are completely clueless as to what he stands for) who would vote for him for president in a heartbeat, and most of whom would be changing their vote from Romney to Ron Paul in the process. This would create a scenario which would increase Obama’s chances of winning, similar to when conservative Ross Perot ran as a third candidate in 1992 and took votes away from republican George Bush which helped democrat Bill Clinton to win. So the matter comes down to whether Ron Paul would be willing to cost Romney any chance of winning, for the sake of getting his own name out there and picking up ten or fifteen percent of the vote which he may believe could raise his profile enough to help him perhaps pick up the republican nomination in 2016. Then again, if Ron Paul and the libertarian party believe that Romney has already lost this election, then he may see no harm in running as a third party candidate. And getting Romney removed from the ballot in an entire state would be a great way to help Ron Paul’s chances of making a beachhead. As difficult to believe that Ron Paul would indeed run as a third candidate against the republican nominee, the only other explanation is that Ron Paul’s libertarian party is trying to get Romney removed from the ballot for no reason other than to ensure that Obama gets reelected.


TOPICS: Texas; Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: lping; obama; paulestinians; romney; ronpaul
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure Obama’s folks are yelling “Run, Ron, run!”


21 posted on 08/17/2012 8:20:24 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Proud2BeRight

I used to study late at night in a Liberary. There was this chick who wore glasses and (I guess) was a Liberarian. To this very day I still fantasize about her. Unlike you she could spell you fking moron.


22 posted on 08/17/2012 8:31:51 PM PDT by Blado (Democrats - the party of juvenile unresolved daddy issue rage.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go ahead you jerk. Hand the election to Obama.
Proof that a mental test should be needed to run for President...........


23 posted on 08/17/2012 8:32:52 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: conservative sympathizer

Everyone knows exactly who the Lil’ Martian is and what he’s up to. Save the BS. No one, especially here, is buying anything Paul.


24 posted on 08/17/2012 8:35:11 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Blado

Stick it!


25 posted on 08/17/2012 8:35:11 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who writes such stupid drivel? The Libertarian Party already has a candidate on the Washington ballot, and it’s not Paul.


26 posted on 08/17/2012 8:45:29 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul...90% brilliant...10% crackpot.

I know someone else like that.
IQ in the 200 range, one of the founders of American Mensa.
He’s the smartest crackpot in the world. I told him that and he really liked the compliment... He’s a really great guy :-)


27 posted on 08/17/2012 9:17:42 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Dems will try to get him in third party like CRAZY.

What they don’t realize is that Obama will lose more votes to Ron Paul than Romney will.


28 posted on 08/17/2012 9:20:25 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But 2012 may be different in that Mitt Romney is behind in every national poll and continues to fall, even as his brewing tax scandal threatens to implode his entire campaign. The best evidence of Romney’s lack of momentum is that when he chose ultra-conservative hero Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate, it made no positive impact on the polls whatsoever – a historical rarity which suggests he’s out of gas.”

What a load of crap! I don’t know what “Beatweek” is, but I would careful about using it as an excuse to bash Ron Paul. Now, I will sit back and watch some Freepers become huge proponents of “Beatweek” without actually reading the piece, for the sole reason of bashing Ron Paul.


29 posted on 08/17/2012 9:23:44 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Bobalu

You know Wayne Green, too?


30 posted on 08/17/2012 9:31:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Nervous Tick

So, a column in something called “Beatweek” says (amid an impressive collection of factual errors, typos, incorrect usage, and poor grammar) that Ron Paul MIGHT do this, and you think that was the money quote? One hint that you might have been had is that Gary Johnson, not Ron Paul, is the Libertarian Party candidate. Another is the obvious inability of the author to grasp that “libertarian” and “Libertarian Party” are not exactly the same thing. Also, the sentence that states that Romney is trailing in all national polls strongly suggests that “Beatweek” is staffed by morons.

Sorry to pick on you, but you may as well have relied on something from Democratic Underground or Kos to launch your rant.


31 posted on 08/17/2012 9:37:41 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t everyone ;-)

Many hams know him, he was often at the big hamfests.
He’s got a nice blog, will answer if you email him.
Very interesting guy...eats raw liver.


32 posted on 08/17/2012 9:47:33 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: cdcdawg

>> So, a column in something called “Beatweek” says (amid an impressive collection of factual errors, typos, incorrect usage, and poor grammar) that Ron Paul MIGHT do this, and you think that was the money quote?

In a word, “yes”.


33 posted on 08/17/2012 9:49:26 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: PapaNew

How often must it be repeated? Ron Paul is a lying thief! He bloviates against spending, and pork and bridges to nowhere. Then he picks out a Bill that he KNOWS is going to pass when it comes up to a vote, loads it up with billion$ of pork for his district, and then votes against it when the vote is taken. The Bill PASSES, he gets the pork he wanted, but he tells the media he voted AGAINST it! That’s a lying thief!


34 posted on 08/17/2012 9:52:30 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: cdcdawg

What, no ‘barf’ alert?

Shame shame.


35 posted on 08/17/2012 9:55:22 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney wont win Washington.

GOP righteous indignation seems to be based on the rationalization that sure Romney is a liberal but he's our liberal and come hell or high water we are going to vote for him.

36 posted on 08/17/2012 9:56:32 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: Bobalu

When I lived in Biloxi he told me he served on the submarine, USS Drum, which is now docked next to the USS Alabama in Mobile Bay while in the Navy in World War II as one of the radiomen. Did he ever mention that to you? BTW, my wife and I are both MENSA eligible, but what’s the point?


37 posted on 08/17/2012 9:59:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: montanajoe

President Reagan won every state save Minnesota in 1984. President Nixon won every state except Massachusetts in 1972. Then Governor Reagan won all but 5 states, including winning Washington State in 1980.


38 posted on 08/17/2012 10:04:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having Ron Paul on the ballot in WAshington State might hurt dems by bringing out more independants to vote down ticket?


39 posted on 08/17/2012 10:08:39 PM PDT by proudpapa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having Ron Paul on the ballot in WAshington State might hurt dems by bringing out more independants to vote down ticket?


40 posted on 08/17/2012 10:09:35 PM PDT by proudpapa
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