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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10
Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/07/2003 7:54:47 PM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Thread 6 - November 8-10, 2003)
(Link back to thread 5 - Nov. 5-7)

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Contained in Thread 4:

Link to article on Michael Schiavo from hometown newspaper, information on death by starvation and dehydration, information on hospice eligibility and hospice and medicare/medicaid fraud, e-mail address for Judge Greer, transcript of Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, Terri's address at the hospice and the address for the foundation, to send cards for Terri's birthday (December 3), transcript of O'Reilly interview with Kate Adamson, e-mail addresses for Florida legislature, transcript of Abrams Report interview with George Felos and Pam Anderson, transcription of Terri's bone scan, legalese for dummies version of Gov. Bush's motion to dismiss Sciavo's suit against the Constitutionality of Terri's Law, link to FatherOfLiberty's research on HBOT (Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy), links to ACLJ involvement in Schiavo case and Father Rob Johansen's daily update.

There are four other relevant posts that I want to highlight here in case anyone missed them or didn't get pinged. These are a general Terri thread troll alert, an especially thoughtful post about the sincere effort that FReepers are making in Terri's behalf, the Father's Love Letter , and remarks made by Jim Robinson on this issue and reposted here by lonevoice.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

There was a tremendous amount of information posted on the previous thread. For anyone who hasn't been following the daily threads, links to relevant posts and information from the previous thread are contained in the body of the present one. I have found that very helpful in trying to find something later. You people are doing a spectacular job of getting information out and also in helping to keep all of us updated here. What a great joint effort. This fight, to me, illustrates beautifully what Free Republic is about and what it means to be a FReeper. Way to go FRiends. Keep up the good work!

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To: FL_engineer; All
Thanks, I tuned it too late.

More on Terry Wallis, who emerged from a coma after 19 years, in the news today:

Coma patient Terry Wallis gets help with a drink from his mother Angelee Wallis at Stone County Nursing and Rehab Center in Mountain View, Ark, last July. Terry, who had been in a coma after a 1984 automobile accident, began talking in June 2003.

Foes in comatose debate find beliefs impossible to prove

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - On the surface, it seems so simple: Why end a brain-damaged Florida woman's life when an Arkansas man this summer emerged from a yearslong stupor and asked for a Pepsi?

But answers among doctors show how complex the Terri Schiavo question really is, especially when compared to Terry Wallis, who spoke in June for the first time in 19 years.

"Some people have tried to compare these two and say that he is proof that she can recover," said Dr. James Zini, the Wallis family doctor. "But you cannot prove that."

Schiavo is at the center of a battle among her parents, her husband and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who ordered a feeding tube returned to Schiavo's body after her husband won a court order that it be removed.

A chemical imbalance shut down her heart, causing brain damage that pushed her into what some doctors say is a vegetative state.

Wallis, meanwhile, suffered head injuries in a car accident and slipped into a coma for a few months before emerging into a long fog that ended this summer - though his brain function remains limited.

Doctors say that despite several similarities, the two cases have little in common medically.

"Her injury appears to be more significant than Terry's," Zini said.

In addition, the media's imprecise use of terms such as "coma" and "vegetative state" have unfairly blurred the lines between the two cases, said Dr. Michael Wienir, associate clinical professor of neurology at UCLA.

"These are complicated terms that deal with awareness of environment, cognitive capability and intellectual function," said Wienir, who consulted on the Wallis case at the end of the summer.

The American Academy of Neurology sets guidelines for states of consciousness. Wienir describes two separate scales for people with brain injury, one for responsiveness and another for consciousness or brain activity.

"Coma can be thought of as an on-off switch with a dimmer," he said. "The levels between on and off are awareness. But then, to be human, there must be cognitive ability, the ability to use language and think."

The awareness scale is used for a short-term diagnosis. If the person's only response to pressure is a reflex action and nothing else, he or she is in a coma. A patient in a "stupor" can be briefly aroused but is still not aware.

The consciousness scale is used to describe longer-term mental status. If the patient isn't arousable and not aware and doesn't follow normal sleep patterns, he or she is comatose.

Once the eyes open, he or she is said to have come out of a coma, but may remain in a "vegetative state," incapable of responding voluntarily. After a month, the term "persistent vegetative state" is used; after a year, "permanent vegetative state" may be the diagnosis.

"When a patient is comatose, the switch is off; when they're vegetative, the current is on but all the lamps are burned out," Wienir said.

A third status, "minimally conscious state," has been added recently to describe people who display inconsistent but clearly discernible evidence of consciousness.

Wienir has only seen Schiavo in home videos shown on television, but he believes she displayed at least minimal consciousness.

Wienir said Wallis was probably fully conscious almost immediately after coming out of his coma in the fall of 1984 and was simply too brain-damaged to communicate for some time.

Also, Wallis was placed on the anti-depressant Paxil just months before he began talking again, which Wienir suggested may have helped him overcome other hindrances to speaking.

"Neither Terri Schiavo now, nor Terry Wallis before he began to talk again, were in comas," Wienir said. "And my supposition is that Mrs. Schiavo is even a step above being vegetative, but she is in much worse shape than Terry. It's highly improbable that she would be rehabilitatable."

Still, some similarities are striking.
Both are 39 years old, suffered serious brain injuries as young adults and lived for more than a decade with their eyes open but their brains apparently closed to the world around them.

Both went from vibrant and attractive to middle-aged invalids with sagging facial features.

Schiavo has been on a feeding tube throughout. Wallis was on a feeding tube for the first three months after his accident. Doctors said he wouldn't take food by mouth, but his mother, Angilee Wallis, said she coaxed him to drink some broth on Thanksgiving Day 1984.

Both had family members who fought for them against doctors or other family, insisting they were responsive. For Wallis it was grunts at the mention of a car he didn't like. For Schiavo, it was her eyes following balloons and smiles after kisses from her father.

But medical experts in Florida have testified in Schiavo's right-to-die case that she is in a persistent vegetative state, which means she cannot possibly respond to the outside world voluntarily. Zini and other doctors who diagnosed Wallis were not convinced for many years that Wallis' utterances were voluntary.

The similarities even piqued the interest of Wallis' daughter, Amber, who was born just before his accident and has recently broken away from Wallis' estranged wife to participate in his daily care.

Angilee Wallis says Amber e-mailed Schiavo's parents, touched by their fight against Michael Schiavo, the husband who wants to remove Terri's feeding tube.

Angilee says she thinks parents know more than spouses about their children's well-being, although there are more legal bonds for spouses than in the parent-adult child relationship.

But Wienir and Zini, both of whom say they hope Schiavo keeps her feeding tube as long as her family wants it, said it is important to separate emotion from the medical facts.

Wallis' sister, Tammy Baze, was able to take that to heart.

"I never give up," said Baze, who was told by St. Louis doctors that she would need a heart and liver transplant and then found out she was fine just a few weeks before Wallis started talking again.

"But I couldn't really give an opinion on (Schiavo) because I'd have to know the person. Each one's different, and even the doctors can't know for sure whether they can recover."

Answers everywhere, proof impossible in debate over comas -
All sides in debate over comatose find beliefs hard to prove -
Media's imprecise use of terms such as "coma" and "vegetative state" have unfairly blurred the lines between the two cases, said Dr. Michael Wienir, UCLA associate professor of neurology, on deceptive, imprecise terms like'coma' and 'vegetative' state. "These are complicated terms that deal with awareness of environment, cognitive capability and intellectual function," said Wienir, who consulted on the Wallis case at the end of the summer.

701 posted on 11/09/2003 7:15:31 AM PST by msmagoo
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To: nicmarlo
True. We only know of a "Dr. Caplan" - and Joelee is not a Dr., is she? Maybe someone in touch with the Schindlers or Pat Anderson could clear that up through email.
702 posted on 11/09/2003 7:20:16 AM PST by msmagoo
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To: msmagoo
Dr. Wienir, who consulted on the Terry Wallis case, said this about Terri:

Wienir has only seen Schiavo in home videos shown on television, but he believes she displayed at least minimal consciousness.
703 posted on 11/09/2003 7:23:05 AM PST by msmagoo
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To: MVV
See post #610
704 posted on 11/09/2003 7:24:40 AM PST by mickie
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To: sweetliberty; All
Just posting a few older articles, in case these haven't been seen yet (sorry if it's a duplication).

Attorney claims a beating may have caused Schiavo's coma

An attorney for the husband of Terri Schiavo calls the allegations ''garbage.''
By WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE, © St. Petersburg Times
published November 13, 2002

A lawyer representing Terri Schiavo's parents said in a legal motion filed Tuesday that newly discovered evidence may suggest someone caused Mrs. Schiavo's persistent vegetative state in 1990 with a beating that broke several of her bones.

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Judge: Remove woman's feeding tube

Posted: November 22, 2002
By Diana Lynne

...In the words of an unnamed physician who reviewed the report at Anderson's request, "Somebody worked her over real good."

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Florida Woman to Be Allowed to Die Despite Family's Wishes

By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 05, 2003

...Three physicians have testified that, based upon the bone scan, Terri appeared to have been physically assaulted. The injuries they identified included "trauma to her ribs, her pelvic area, L1 vertebrae, spine, both knees and both ankles...a broken femur and a broken back."

Felos and Michael Schiavo's doctors also dispute those claims.

"What that bone scan shows is...an accumulation of calcium deposits in the joints," Felos explained.

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The Guardian

In 1998, Terri Schiavo's first guardian ad litem filed a report on her case. It makes for interesting reading today.

by Wesley J. Smith
11/04/2003

As of April 4, 1998, Terri's trust fund held $713,828.85 [he received $750,000 + an additional $350,000 for himself in 1993; in May 1998, Schiavo hired Felos, so in a period of 5 years' time, only $37,000 had been spent allegedly on Terri; subsequent to Schiavo hiring Felos, and within approx. 3 years, almost $680,000 has been spent]. "Thus," wrote Pearse, "Mr. Schiavo will realize a substantial and fairly immediate financial gain if his application for withdrawal of life support [tube-supplied food and water] is granted." (Schiavo now claims that there is only $50,000 left in the account, the bulk of the money having gone to pay his attorneys.)

705 posted on 11/09/2003 7:29:04 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Coral Snake
See my reply above.

Sherman was pro-life. Period.

When you whine and complain about the grevious material losses he inflicted on the South, where he single-handedly destroyed the idolatorous pillars of pride the pre-bellum South was unwisely built on ... all you all sound like Micheal Schiavo and his camp. Pride in material things is more important to you than life?

706 posted on 11/09/2003 7:30:13 AM PST by bvw
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To: msmagoo
We only know of a "Dr. Caplan" - and Joelee is not a Dr., is she?

No, she's not. But, I still can't find ANY Dr. Caplan's in Florida, except a pediatrician.

707 posted on 11/09/2003 7:30:19 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: mickie
bump
708 posted on 11/09/2003 7:30:35 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: Ohioan from Florida; msmagoo
Could it possibly be one of these doc's? (And I'm thinking more likely Peter Kaplan):

License : PY4229
Profession : Psychologist

Licensee Name : KAPLAN, PETER R.

License Status : CLEAR
Activity Status : ACTIVE
Expiration Date : 05/31/2004
Original Issue Date : 11/27/1989
Military Status : N
Has Discipline : N
Address of Record :
5969 CATTLERIDGE BLVD
STE 100
SARASOTA, FL 34232


License : PY3736
Profession : Psychologist

Licensee Name : KAPLAN,SCOTT MITCHELL

License Status : CLEAR
Activity Status : ACTIVE
Expiration Date : 05/31/2004
Original Issue Date : 12/04/1986
Military Status : N
Has Discipline : N
Address of Record :
1581 ROBERT CONLAN BLVD NE
STE 101
PALM BAY, FL 32905


License :
PY2334 Profession :
Psychologist

Licensee Name :
KAPLAN,SHELDONJAY


License Status : CLEAR
Activity Status : ACTIVE
Expiration Date : 05/31/2004
Original Issue Date : 03/29/1982
Military Status : N
Has Discipline : N
Address of Record :
3601 HENDRICKS AVE
JACKSONVILLE, FL 32207-5311

709 posted on 11/09/2003 7:42:40 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: msmagoo
"Greer is being watched - and he must follow the law or he will be overruled on appeal. He can't make it up as he goes along...Connors is too smart to let him."

Yes, but at this time, Connors isn't up against Greer. It is Baird, I believe, who denied the motion to dismiss the case against Jeb.

710 posted on 11/09/2003 7:42:49 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: msmagoo
"He's another Scott Peterson...minus the fishing trip"

He is eerily similar to Scott Peterson. The only difference is that in this case, it is the victim who is on trial and is facing the deatth penalty.

711 posted on 11/09/2003 7:48:33 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: No More Gore Anymore; Lone Voice in the hinterlands
Has anyone else seen this spreadsheet, or able to find another link to the same information?

This is probably the same source as Lone Voice, but here's a link: Terri's Medical Fund is Being Used To Facilitate Her Death

712 posted on 11/09/2003 7:56:03 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: TheSarce
Thanks to the FReepers who alerted me this morning!!! I did see the program and I thought it was pretty good basically. I thought Terri's brother came off very well. The part that made me furious was FELOS accusing the Schindler's of wanting money again. (After the money came in, that's when all the trouble started.) How could the Schindler's possibly have been "in it for the money"? It's the HINO and his evil twin Felos who are in it for the money! I wish the media would get that straight!!

They showed Felos' book and probably caused people to think he's just one of those book sellers that we all hate.

The discussion about the brain scan was interesting and not at all the way it was presented by the HINO and Felos on LKL. On LKL they showed that same brain scan and said it proved that Terri is dead already. But this guy who was apparently impartial said the brain scan shows she's "low functioning".

My husband reminded me that in 1999 doctors in Fresno told him if he had surgery to remove a tumor, he'd never walk again (best case scenario). In 2000 he had surgery in SF and he's walking around freeping. DOCTORS CAN BE WRONG!!!

Oh, they also mentioned on today's program that doctors are disagreeing with each other about Terri's condition. That was good that they finally admitted there is a difference of opinion.

Overall, I thought the program was good for Terri! And thanks again to the FReepers who gave us the heads up about this morning's program.
713 posted on 11/09/2003 8:01:21 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: msmagoo
Let's keep reminding everyone that the videos taken by Terri's parents (illegally behind the HINO's back) are the reason she's alive today - it shows the world that the HINO and his evil twin are LYING about her condition. Oh, how pissed they must be that those videos were taken and distributed!! The ones they were distributing to the media make Terri look like a hideous freak. Thank God for those videos taken by people who love Terri. By the way, the pictures of Terri on this morning's CBS Good Morning were pretty darn good! THANK GOD!!!
714 posted on 11/09/2003 8:05:55 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks for the heads up about this morning's CBS program. I was able to watch it and overall I thought it was very good for Terri. Thank you so much!!
715 posted on 11/09/2003 8:10:51 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: msmagoo
Great story about Terry Wallace. I knew about that, but had never actually read the story. Just goes to show that it CAN happen in Arkansas. Now if we could just get all these well-programmed RAT voters out of their coma here.....but that's another story altogether. *Sigh*
716 posted on 11/09/2003 8:11:01 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: nicmarlo
"What it is, is garbage," Felos said. "It's very convenient to allege anything. It's another thing proving it. It's all totally bogus."

Oh well, I guess that settles it then. Felos says it's garbage. I suppose in Greer's court, that is proof enough. Scary.

717 posted on 11/09/2003 8:14:17 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Saundra Duffy; sweetliberty; msmagoo; All
This are the two doctors who were sued by the Schiavos.

Professional Liability Closed Claims Search Results

This information is current as of 11/7/2003
The result of your search:

Provider Name Profession Department
File Number
Total Indemnity Occurrence Date Disposition Date County
IGEL, MD, G. STEPHEN PHYSICIANS 200220919 $250,000 09/21/2000 06/27/2002 PINELLAS
Provider Name Profession Department
File Number
Total Indemnity Occurrence Date Disposition Date County
PRAWER, JOEL STEVEN PHYSICIANS 199201653 $250,000 02/25/1990 07/10/1992 PINELLAS

718 posted on 11/09/2003 8:18:25 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
I guess that settles it then. Felos says it's garbage. I suppose in Greer's court, that is proof enough.

This "Judge" is more outrageous than Felos.

719 posted on 11/09/2003 8:21:18 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Attorney claims a beating may have caused Schiavo's coma

By WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE, Times Staff Writer
© St. Petersburg Times
published November 13, 2002

A lawyer representing Terri Schiavo's parents said in a legal motion filed Tuesday that newly discovered evidence may suggest someone caused Mrs. Schiavo's persistent vegetative state in 1990 with a beating that broke several of her bones.

In addition, attorney Pat Anderson said the thermostat in Mrs. Schiavo's hospice room had recently been turned down to 64 degrees, indicating someone may be trying to induce pneumonia in a plot to kill her.

To make sure attorneys have enough time to investigate the allegations, the motion asks a judge to delay a pending decision on whether Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube should be removed.

"My purpose here is to make sure all the facts are before the court," Anderson said Tuesday.

George Felos, an attorney representing Mrs. Schiavo's husband, Michael Schiavo, said the new allegations are ridiculous and are no reason to delay the judge's decision.

"What it is, is garbage," Felos said. "It's very convenient to allege anything. It's another thing proving it. It's all totally bogus."

Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer has scheduled a hearing Friday to discuss the motion with attorneys in a right-to-die case that has attracted national attention.

The judge recently concluded a hearing to take testimony from six doctors about Mrs. Schiavo's condition and whether new medical treatment holds any hope of improving her condition. He has said he expects to make a ruling by the end of this month.

Anderson said in the new motion that she recently discovered a 1991 bone scan, taken just over a year after Mrs. Schiavo's collapse from a heart attack, showing that Mrs. Schiavo had several bone fractures, including a compression fracture of a thigh bone.

The motion said three physicians have reviewed the record, including one who said, "Somebody worked her over real good."

Felos said the fact that Mrs. Schiavo had been in a paralyzed state and that she was being given antiseizure medication contributed to osteoporosis, which leads to degenerative bone loss and minute fractures.

"This is something the other side has had for three years," Felos said.


"Felos said the fact that Mrs. Schiavo had been in a paralyzed state and that she was being given antiseizure medication contributed to osteoporosis, which leads to degenerative bone loss and minute fractures."

A broken femur?? C'mon George. You're gonna have to do better than that.

720 posted on 11/09/2003 8:25:48 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: nicmarlo

I checked that site. Just put the name Igel in, without a first name and several settlements come up.
721 posted on 11/09/2003 8:26:29 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: pickyourpoison
WOW!!!!

GUSTAVE STEPHEN $2,000,000 Occurrence Date: 02/02/1990 Disposition Date: 01/20/1993 PINELLAS

722 posted on 11/09/2003 8:30:23 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

That's a chunka change
723 posted on 11/09/2003 8:33:44 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: sfRummygirl
I agree with the exorcism, because there is so much evil
in Dirtywater, Florida that we need a couple of C-130/,or
U.S. Air Force Tankers supply with HOLY WATER and spray
entire area. Maybe after that is completed it will be CLEARWATER ,Florida once again....

I know with Felo$ alone, We need a semi-truck and TANKER
of Holy Water, and a army of good priests...


lol


Seriously, we are fighting real demons and the devil himself, here.....no joke ! So, it's important that the soldiers of the light (God/Jesus) know this...and have your
armor of protections on....it's important to Pray for the
front-line soldiers of God over-there,Terri, and entire family,but also Gov. Bush, and the state legal teams, and
for Judge Greer too....and other Judges......

Spray holy water, with prayers on Christmas Cards and send
to Judge Greer, and ask God to protect him from these demons attacks (Dark side)....

Yhis is a real battle, and it's our test, because many
of us know, if we lose.....The gate of Hell will open-up so wide, and many sick,weak,poor,disable people of all colors,
sexes,ages will be in super real danger and might be tag as
not wanted with many legal names and destroyed like cattle,
and animals, and put to sleep without food and water.....

New Death camps.....for profit$.....




This is why, I believe that the image of Holy Mother, and Jesus is in Clearwater, Florida....

vet out......

724 posted on 11/09/2003 8:34:29 AM PST by Orlando (* Dec. 3rd is Theresa M. SCHINDLER Birthday * Don't call her Schiavo anymore,please.)
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To: pickyourpoison
I'd say....gee, I wonder to whom that was paid out? It seems to "fit" the time period with Terri, too.
725 posted on 11/09/2003 8:34:58 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

There's also a dept. file # there.
Could the general public get a copy of this?
726 posted on 11/09/2003 8:39:58 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: pickyourpoison
I don't know. It's possible....there would have been litigation involved with this, of course, and that file may be accessible, through the Pinellas County Courts....I don't know what FL procedure is as to access to files to the public once the file's closed.
727 posted on 11/09/2003 8:43:46 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
You're gonna have to do better than that.

Not if Greer is the judge.

728 posted on 11/09/2003 8:52:24 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; Lone Voice in the hinterlands
We could e-mail the foundation and ask them what it means.
729 posted on 11/09/2003 9:01:51 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore; Lone Voice in the hinterlands
I'm sure that's possible (but I do think they'll tell you the trust fund "owes" MS money)
730 posted on 11/09/2003 9:06:01 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
You Posted form the News Article
Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer has scheduled a hearing Friday to discuss the motion with attorneys in a right-to-die case that has attracted national attention.

The judge recently concluded a hearing to take testimony from six doctors about Mrs. Schiavo's condition and whether new medical treatment holds any hope of improving her condition. He has said he expects to make a ruling by the end of this month.



I wish we could ask a Freeper instead of attending Vigals (which are good don't get me wrong) instead to please attend these hearings in Greers court. He says he has been having doctors examine Terri to see if new medical treatment would improve he condition.

I don't get this? Is this part of the petition to have Michael removed as Guardian or is this a different case.?

Anyway there is another hearing on Friday it woudl be great if a Freeper could attend. Sweetliberty thanks for posting this!
731 posted on 11/09/2003 9:06:41 AM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
I gotta go, I'll cathch you back here later
732 posted on 11/09/2003 9:13:28 AM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
gotta run catch you later
733 posted on 11/09/2003 9:15:34 AM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: pc93
I have the address for the hospice but does anyone know the zip code. could find it easier on our map program if had a zip ty
734 posted on 11/09/2003 9:19:33 AM PST by fiesti
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To: Orlando
The Orlando Sentinel is JUNK !!!

Typical communist "newspaper," eh?

735 posted on 11/09/2003 9:21:49 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: All
Sorry this is so very long, but I thought it would be interesting. It's a chronology of one of the cases against MS. You have to go through some hoops at this site to get the info: https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/civil/KEInput.jsp. And you're also limited to accessing it a certain number of times per day.




Uniform Case Pinellas Case Section Case Type Type
Uniform Case: 522001CA003200XXCICI
Pinellas Case: 01003200CI
Section: 011
Case Type: NEGLIGENCE CI
Style: SCHINDLER ROBERT (Plaintiff) vs. SCHIAVO MICHAEL (Defendant)

Filling Date: 4/25/01
Appeal Date 5/4/01

Date P/D Docket Entry
08/14/03 PLAINTIFF COPY ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO DISMISS ETC F
06/19/03 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF HEARING 061803 F
06/18/03 DEFENDANT NOTICE TO RELY UPON MOTIONS TO DISMISS F
06/13/03 PLAINTIFF AMENDED NOTICE OF HEARING 061803 @ 1:30 F
06/09/03 PLAINTIFF VERIFIED SECOND AMENDED COMPLAINT F
06/09/03 PLAINTIFF DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL N
05/27/03 PLAINTIFF ORDER OF DISMISSAL AS TO COUNT II/III IN POR12774PG0053-004 F
05/23/03 PLAINTIFF ORDER ON MOTIONS ETC F
05/23/03 PLAINTIFF ATTORNEY COVER LETTER F
05/20/03 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF HEARING 061803 @ 9 F
05/05/03 PLAINTIFF CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN ATTYS RE: MOTION ISSUES F
04/28/03 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF HEARING 050503 @ 11 F
04/28/03 PLAINTIFF MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER OF HOSPICE OF FLORIDA F
04/16/03 PLAINTIFF SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR DEPO SERVED F
04/14/03 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF HEARING 050503 @ 11 F
04/14/03 DEFENDANT MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER F
04/11/03 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF HOSPITCE OF FLORIDA SUNCOAST INC F
03/21/03 DEFENDANT OBJECTION TO NOTICE OF PRODUCTION F
03/12/03 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF PRODUCTION F
11/21/02 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF FILING ATTD AFFIDAVIT OF ELEANOR DRECHSEL
08/20/02 PLAINTIFF TRANSCRIPT OF HEARING F
08/20/02 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF FILING ATTD N
05/21/02 DEFENDANT DEFTS FIDUCIARY DUTY F
05/21/02 DEFENDANT RESPONSE TO PLTF MEMORANDUM OF POINTS/AUTHORITIES RE: N
04/25/02 PLAINTIFF FIDUCIARY DUTY F
04/25/02 PLAINTIFF MEMORANDUM OF POINTS/AUTHORITIES RE: DEFENDANT'S N
03/18/02 DEFENDANT AMENDMENT GUARDIAN'S MOTION DISMISS AMENDED COMPLAINT ATTCHD F
02/06/02 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF HEARING 040502 10:00 F
02/05/02 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF HEARING 040502 @ 10:00 (FAXED) F
11/14/01 PLAINTIFF PETITION TO ALLOW PRELIMINARY PHYSICAL ASSESSMENT F
08/29/01 DEFENDANT ORDER ON MOTION TO COMPEL DEPO/MOTN PROTECTIVE ORDER F
08/29/01 DEFENDANT CORRESPONDENCE TO COURT RE: PROPOSED ORDER F
08/09/01 DEFENDANT PERSON OF THERESA MARIE SCHIAVO F
08/09/01 DEFENDANT ORDER BROUGHT BY MICHAEL SCHIAVO AS GUARDIAN OF N
08/09/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE ADOPT MOTIONS DISMISS/MOTION PROTECTIVE N
08/09/01 DEFENDANT MOTION DISMISS ACTION W/PREJUDICE DUE TO FRAUD/MISCONDUCT F
08/09/01 DEFENDANT MOTION PROTECTIVE ORDER F
08/09/01 DEFENDANT OPPOSITION TO MOTION TO COMPEL DEPOSITION/ N
08/09/01 DEFENDANT MOTION DISMISS AMENDED COMPLAINT F
08/09/01 DEFENDANT OF HEARING/TO STRIKE MOTION TO PRESERVE TESTIMON F
08/09/01 DEFENDANT GUARDIANS MOTION TO STRIKE AMENDED NOTICE N
08/09/01 DEFENDANT CORRESPONDENCE TO COURT RE: PROPOSED MOTION TO DISMISS/STRIKE F
08/09/01 DEFENDANT ATTORNEY COVER LETTER F
08/09/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF HEARING 080901 F
08/07/01 PLAINTIFF AMENDED NOTICE OF HEARING 080901 F
08/07/01 PLAINTIFF MOTION STRIKE MOTION TO DISMISS F
08/03/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF HEARING 080901 F
08/02/01 DEFENDANT MOTION DISMISS COUNTS I II AND III OF AMENDED COMPLAINT F
08/02/01 DEFENDANT MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER F
08/02/01 DEFENDANT RESPONSE TO MOTION TO COMPEL
07/11/01 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF HEARING 080901 F
06/26/01 PLAINTIFF ORDER ON STATUS CONFERENCE F
06/19/01 PLAINTIFF MOTION TO COMPEL DEPOSITION F
06/18/01 DEFENDANT OBJECTION TO NON-PARTY PRODUCTION F
06/18/01 CLERK TO PROBATE DIVISION F
06/18/01 CLERK RECEIPT - TRANSFER OF AMENDED COMPLAINT (COUNTS IV AND V) N
06/14/01 PLAINTIFF COMPLAINT TO PROBATE DIVISION F
06/14/01 PLAINTIFF ORDER TRANSFERRING COUNTS IV & V OF THE AMENDED N
06/15/01 DEFENDANT ATTORNEY COVER LETTER F
06/15/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF HEARING . F
06/15/01 DEFENDANT MOTION FOR REASSIGNMENT OF CASE F
06/15/01 PLAINTIFF ATTORNEY COVER LETTER W/ENCLOSED COURTESY COPIES F
06/14/01 PLAINTIFF ORDER GRANTING MOTION FOR RE-ASSIGNMENT OR11430PG0605-003 F
06/13/01 PLAINTIFF DCA ORDER DENYING MOTION TO STRIKE INITIAL BRIEF #01-1891 F
06/08/01 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF MICHAEL SCHIAVO F
06/08/01 PLAINTIFF SUBPOENA TO PRODUCE W/O DEPO SERVED F
06/08/01 PLAINTIFF RESPONSE TO MOTION FOR REASSIGNMENT OF CASESE F
06/01/01 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF HEARING 062001 F
06/01/01 PLAINTIFF MOTION TO PRESERVE TESTIMONY F
06/01/01 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF FILING COPY AFFIDAVITS F
06/01/01 PLAINTIFF MOTION TO RETAIN CASE F
05/31/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE TO JOIN IN MOTION FOR MORE DEFINITE STATEMENT ETC F
05/31/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF APPEARANCE F
05/29/01 DEFENDANT OBJECTION TO NOTICE OF SERVICE OF SUBPOENA TO PRODUCE F
05/25/01 DEFENDANT MOTION FOR MORE DEFINITE STATEMENT ETC F
05/15/01 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF CINDI SHOOK F
05/15/01 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF DONALD SHOOK F
05/14/01 DEFENDANT DEPOSITION OF CYNTHIA SHOOK 050801 F
05/14/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF FILING DEPOSITION F
05/14/01 DEFENDANT EMERGENCY MOTION TO TRANSFER F
05/11/01 PLAINTIFF ORDER DENYING EMERGENCY MOTION TO TRANSFER F
05/11/01 DEFENDANT AFFIDAVIT OF DOREEN MELLO F
05/11/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF FILING AFFIDAVIT F
05/09/01 DEFENDANT AFFIDAVIT OF TRUDY CAPONE F
05/09/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF FILING AFFIDAVIT F
05/09/01 CLERK APPEAL CLERK'S WORKSHEET W/ATTACHMENT #01-1891 F
05/09/01 DEFENDANT LETTER FROM 2ND DCA RE:ASSIGN APPEAL NO. 01-1891 F
05/07/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF CYNTHIA SHOOK F
05/07/01 PLAINTIFF AFFIDAVIT OF WILIAM HAMMESFAHR MD F
05/07/01 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF FILING AFFIDAVIT F
05/07/01 PLAINTIFF VERIFIED AMENDED COMPLAINT F
05/04/01 DEFENDANT LETTER FROM CLERK RE:APPEAL NOTICE TO DCA F
05/04/01 DEFENDANT C/C NOTICE APPEAL FEE PAID $3.00 N
05/04/01 DEFENDANT APPELLATE FILING FEE PAID $55.00 N
05/04/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF APPEAL /SCHIAVO (NON-FINAL) F
04/30/01 PLAINTIFF EMERGENCY TEMPORARY INJUNCTION F
04/30/01 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION CINDY SHOOK BRASHERS F
04/30/01 PLAINTIFF CASH BOND DEPOSITED CT REGISTRY $50.00 N
04/26/01 PLAINTIFF MOTION FOR EMERGENCY TEMPORARY INJUNCTION F
04/26/01 PLAINTIFF DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL N
04/26/01 PLAINTIFF CIVIL COVER SHEET F
04/26/01 PLAINTIFF COMPLAINT F
04/26/01 PLAINTIFF CIRCUIT CIVIL FILING FEE PAID $145.50 N
04/26/01 PLAINTIFF THIS CASE ASSIGNED BY CLERK TO SECTION 011 BY 1332 - RANDOM CI N
736 posted on 11/09/2003 9:29:29 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
That article is a year old. I only posted it for reference.
737 posted on 11/09/2003 9:30:23 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: All; sweetliberty; Orlando
Here's another one (AN INSURANCE COMPANY):
Uniform Case Pinellas Case Section Case Type Type
521990CA008845XXCICI 90008845CI 007 INJUNCTION CI
Style:  SCHIAVO MICHAEL
vs.  PRUDENTIAL INSURANCE COMPANY OF AMERICA
Jury Trial STIP NOTH Reason Type Disp.
    Y  
Filling Date Appeal Date Judg. Date Reop Date Docket Date
05/22/90        
Case/Cat
INJUNCTION

 

8 Docket Entries, 06/14/90 to 05/22/90
Pages Date P/D Docket Entry Ver
  06/14/90 DEFENDANT NOTICE OF FILING NOTICE OF REMOVAL F
  06/14/90 DEFENDANT ORDER TRANSFERRING CAUSE N
  06/11/90 PLAINTIFF COMPANY OF AMERICA 5/31/90 F
  06/11/90 PLAINTIFF NOTICE/SERVICE/PROCESS INS COMM PRUDENTIAL INSURANCE N
  05/30/90 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF HEARING 6/11 F
  05/22/90 PLAINTIFF SUMMONS ISSUED AT BRANCH TO ATTORNEY N
  05/22/90 PLAINTIFF CIVIL COVER SHEET F
  05/22/90 PLAINTIFF PETITION F
NOTH  Notice of Hearing
STIP  Stipulation
Ver Verified: F=Filed, N=Not Filed/Notice. There is no
case file document associated with a notice.

738 posted on 11/09/2003 9:31:30 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Or what this promisary note is that Lone voice in the hinterwoods is refering to .
739 posted on 11/09/2003 9:36:20 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: nicmarlo
And here's the one with Gov. Bush:

Style: SCHIAVO MICHAEL vs. BUSH JEB

Filling Date 10/21/03
Case/Cat DECLARATORY JUDGMENT

Pages Date P/D Docket Entry Ver
11/07/03 DEFENDANT MOTION TO STAY OR ABATE FILING DEADLINE BY PARENTS ETC F
11/07/03 DEFENDANT MOTION FOR REHEARING AND/OR CLARIFICATION REGARDING DENIAL ETC F
11/07/03 DEFENDANT AMICUS CURIAE BRIEF OF TERRY SCHIAVO'S PARENTS F
11/07/03 DEFENDANT ORDER OF DISMISSAL ETC DENIED F
11/07/03 DEFENDANT ORDER ON MOTION FOR REHEARING AND/OR CLARIFICATION ETC DENIED F
11/07/03 CLERK CERTIFICATE OF MAILING F
11/06/03 DEFENDANT BY ROBERT SCHINDLER/MARY SCHINDLER F
11/06/03 DEFENDANT FAX MOTION TO STAY OR ABATE FILING DEADLINE N
11/06/03 DEFENDANT REQUEST FOR TEMP INJUNCTION/SUGGESTION OF CONTEMPLATED ERROR F
11/06/03 DEFENDANT SPECIAL APPEARANCE /MTN DISM FAIL STATE CAUSE OF ACTION/
11/06/03 DEFENDANT FAX FRIEND OF THE COURT BRIEF / DIXIE-KAREN BIBEAU F
11/06/03 DEFENDANT BY ROBERT SCHINDLER/MARY SCHINDLER F
11/06/03 DEFENDANT VERIFIED MOTION FOR LEAVE TO INTERVENE N
11/06/03 DEFENDANT FAX MOTION FOR REHEARING AND/OR CLARIFICATION RE: DENIAL OF N
11/05/03 DEFENDANT REQUEST FOR TEMP INJUNCTION/SUGGESTION OF CONTEMPLATED ERROR F
11/05/03 DEFENDANT FAX SPECIAL APPEARANCE/MTN DISM FAIL STATE CAUSE OF ACTION/ N
11/04/03 DEFENDANT ROBERT AND MARY SCHINDLER F
11/04/03 DEFENDANT ORDER DENYING VERIFIED MOTION FOR LEAVE TO INTERVENE FROM N
11/04/03 DEFENDANT JAY ALAN SEKULOW F
11/04/03 DEFENDANT ORDER GRANTING VERIFIED PRO HAC VICE MOTION OF N
11/04/03 DEFENDANT DAVID ANDREW CORTMAN F
11/04/03 DEFENDANT ORDER GRANTING VERIFIED PRO HAC VICE MOTION OF N
11/04/03 DEFENDANT JAMES MATTHEW HENDERSON SR F
11/04/03 DEFENDANT ORDER GRANTING VERIFIED PRO HAC VICE MOTION OF N
11/04/03 DEFENDANT WALTER MARTIN WEBER F
11/04/03 DEFENDANT ORDER GRANTING VERIFIED PRO HAC VICE MOTION OF N
11/04/03 PLAINTIFF RESPONSE TO MOTION TO INTERVENE F
11/03/03 DEFENDANT APPEAR PRO HAC VICE F
11/03/03 DEFENDANT VERIFIED MOTION OF THOMAC J PERRELLI TO N
11/03/03 DEFENDANT APPEAR PRO HAC VICE
11/03/03 DEFENDANT VERIFIED MOTION OF NICOLE G BERNER TO N
11/03/03 DEFENDANT APPEAR PRO HAC VICE F
11/03/03 DEFENDANT VERIFIED MOTION OF ROBERT M PORTMAN TO N
10/31/03 PLAINTIFF LEAVE TO INTERVENE F
10/31/03 PLAINTIFF COPY CORRESPONDENCE RE: CONTACTED PARTIES ON OJECTION TO N
10/31/03 PLAINTIFF COPY CORRESPONDENCE RE: ON MOTION FOR LEAVE TO INTERVENE F
10/30/03 PLAINTIFF JAY ALAN SEKULOW F
10/30/03 PLAINTIFF MOTION (VERIFIED) FOR ADMISSION PRO HAC VICE OF N
10/30/03 PLAINTIFF DAVID ANDREW CORTMAN F
10/30/03 PLAINTIFF MOTION (VERIFIED) FOR ADMISSION PRO HAC VICE OF N
10/30/03 PLAINTIFF JAMES MATTHEW HENDERSON SR F
10/30/03 PLAINTIFF MOTION (VERIFIED) FOR ADMISSION PRO HAC VICE OF N
10/30/03 PLAINTIFF WALTER MARTIN WEBER PRO SE F
10/30/03 PLAINTIFF MOTION (VERIFIED) FOR ADMISSION PRO HAC VICE OF N
10/30/03 PLAINTIFF PARENTS/ROBERT SCHINDLER/MARY SCHINDLER/SUPPORTING MEMORANDUM F
10/30/03 PLAINTIFF MOTION (VERIFIED) LEAVE INTERVENE OF THERESA MARIA SCHIAVOS N
10/29/03 PLAINTIFF PETITIONERS BRIEF F
10/27/03 PLAINTIFF AFFIDAVIT OF MICHAEL SCHIAVO F
10/27/03 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF HEARING 102103 @ 7 F
10/23/03 PLAINTIFF ORDER DENYING TEMP INJUNCTION
10/23/03 PLAINTIFF ORDER ON DECLARATORY JUDGMENT/ N
10/21/03 PLAINTIFF PETITION F
10/21/03 PLAINTIFF CIRCUIT CIVIL FILING FEE PAID $155.00 N
10/21/03 PLAINTIFF THIS CASE ASSIGNED BY CLERK TO SECTION 020 BY 3886 - RANDOM CI N
740 posted on 11/09/2003 9:37:54 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Here's another suit MS filed against another doctor. I did not show all the entries in this court case.
Uniform Case Pinellas Case Section Case Type Type
521990CA018585XXCICI 90018585CI 018 MALPRAC PROF CI
Style:  SCHIAVO MICHAEL
vs.  NEUHARDT ROBERT G MD
Jury Trial STIP NOTH Reason Type Disp.
       
Filling Date Appeal Date Judg. Date Reop Date Docket Date
10/30/90        
Case/Cat
PRO MAL NON-MEDICAL

 

10 Docket Entries, 05/15/93 to 10/30/90
Pages Date P/D Docket Entry Ver
  05/15/93 PLAINTIFF ASSIGNED SECTION 018 FROM SECTION 010 PURSUANT TO A.O. 93-36 N
  12/21/90 PLAINTIFF SUMMONS RETD SERVED ROBERT G MD NEUHARDT 12/5/90 F
  12/05/90 PLAINTIFF SUMMONS RETD SERVED MICHAEL SCHIAVO 11/26/90 F
  12/03/90 PLAINTIFF NOTICE/SERVICE/PROCESS INS COMM PRUDENTIAL INSURANCE 11/30/90 F F
  11/29/90 PLAINTIFF ORDER TRANSFERRING CAUSE N
  11/29/90 PLAINTIFF NOTICE OF FILING NOTICE OF REMOVAL F
  11/26/90 PLAINTIFF SUMMONS ON COMPLAINT MLD TO ATTY-ROBERT NEUHARDT N
  11/14/90 PLAINTIFF REQUEST FOR SUMMONS F
  11/05/90 PLAINTIFF CORRESPONDENCE TO CLERK RE: CHANGE OF ADDRESS OF COUNSEL F
  10/30/90 PLAINTIFF DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL N
NOTH  Notice of Hearing
STIP  Stipulation
Ver Verified: F=Filed, N=Not Filed/Notice. There is no
case file document associated with a notice.

741 posted on 11/09/2003 9:40:13 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
And here's the suit against Dr. Prawer:
Uniform Case Pinellas Case Section Case Type Type
521992CA000939XXCICI 92000939CI 015 MED MAL PRAC CI
Style:  SCHIAVO MICHAEL
vs.  PRAWER JOEL S M D
Jury Trial STIP NOTH Reason Type Disp.
111092   Y  
Filling Date Appeal Date Judg. Date Reop Date Docket Date
02/20/92   11/13/92 12/29/92  
Case/Cat
PROFESSIONAL MALPRAC

 

10 Docket Entries, 07/06/01 to 08/10/93
Pages Date P/D Docket Entry Ver
  07/06/01 PLAINTIFF PAGES 101 & 102 OF ORIGINIAL TRANSCRIPT F
  06/25/01 PLAINTIFF TRANSCRIPTION OF PROCEEDINGS EXCERPTS OF JURY TRIAL 110492 F
  04/09/99 PLAINTIFF TESTIMONY OF MICHAEL RICHARD SCHIAVO 110592 F
  04/09/99 PLAINTIFF TRANSCRIPTION OF PROCEEDINGS EXCERPT OF JURY TRIAL N
  05/30/97 PLAINTIFF COPY LETTER TO DEFT ATTY RE: EXHIBITS DESTROYED 053097 F
  05/30/97 PLAINTIFF COPY LETTER TO PLTF ATTY RE: EXHIBITS DESTROYED 053097 F
  04/18/97 DEFENDANT LETTER FROM CLERK RE: DESTRUCTION OF EXHIBITS F
  04/18/97 PLAINTIFF LETTER FROM CLERK RE: DESTRUCTION OF EXHIBITS F
  08/10/93 PLAINTIFF EXAMINATION OF MARY LEE SCHINDLER 110392 F
  08/10/93 PLAINTIFF TRANSCRIPTION OF PROCEEDINGS EXCERPT OF JURY TRIAL DIRECT N
NOTH  Notice of Hearing
STIP  Stipulation
Ver Verified: F=Filed, N=Not Filed/Notice. There is no
case file document associated with a notice.

742 posted on 11/09/2003 9:42:25 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
And here's some with MS's girlfriend:

BLOUGH JODI vs. DEMONEY STEPHEN HAROLD
Filling Date 03/03/89
Case/Cat AUTO NEGLIGENCE


BLOUGH JODI vs. FLETCHER DANIEL SCOTT
Filling Date 09/07/88
Case/Cat AUTO NEGLIGENCE


82005579SC
PLAINTIFF: CENTONZE JODI A (This seems to also be involved with an Eleanor Centonze and a Michael Centonze)
Defendant: RASK DAVID L
AUTO ACCIDENT
Filed: 07/19/82
743 posted on 11/09/2003 9:58:16 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
Someone said they thought MS's middle name is Richard. If so, this might be some traffic ticket history for Michael R. Schiavo:
SCHIAVO,MICHAEL R    

 

5 Citation(s), from 02004360BLL to 910067601SP
Citation Data
Link To - Citation - COC Filed DPT/CL Offense D6 Wrnt Disp.
DEFENDANT A  05/31/02 NC/*** OBED/TRAFFIC/CONTROL/DEVICE     08/19/02
DEFENDANT A  05/25/94 CL/*** LICENSE EXPIRED 4 MONTHS OR LE     05/31/94
DEFENDANT A  05/25/94 CL/*** REGIS/EXP/6 MOS OR LESS     05/31/94
DEFENDANT A  11/13/92 SP/*** SPEED/POSTED/MUNICIPAL ROAD     11/23/92
DEFENDANT A  05/17/91 SP/*** RAN STOP SIGN     05/20/91

744 posted on 11/09/2003 10:05:38 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
>> "What that bone scan shows is...an accumulation of calcium deposits in the joints," Felos explained.

What do we have here? A lawyer impersonating a doctor -- and getting it dead wrong. He should hire himself to sue himself for malpractice --if he's left any of Terri money to pay himself with, anyway.

Two doctors in this forum were kind enough to review the bone scan, and readily affirmed the opinion of the other three doctors earlier. The bone scan indicates that Terri has suffered severe trauma, consistent with being beaten. (Also consistent with her being in a car wreck [not that she was] -- it's that bad.) Add one more doctor, the one who did the actual scan -- he found trauma and used that word in his summary. It's right on the report, George.

Felos speaks with the tongue of a serpent, doesn't he?

745 posted on 11/09/2003 10:15:38 AM PST by T'wit
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To: nicmarlo
"Destruction of Exhibits" -- well! That sounds interesting. Any way to tell what that was about?
746 posted on 11/09/2003 10:19:22 AM PST by T'wit
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands; sweetliberty; Mo1; nicmarlo; All
I copied this from a Sunday, June 3, 2001 article in “The Times,” entitled "Fund for medical care for Schiavo dwindles"

“Records show that George Felos, Michael Schiavo’s litigation attorney, has been paid more than $200,000 since 1997. Another Schiavo attorney, Deborah Bushnell, got $27,000. Schiavo himself was reimbursed almost $6,000 for legal costs.

“Other expenses include private aides, security guards hired after the publicity led to a ruckus outside Mrs. Schiavo’s nursing home and a lawyer appointed by a judge to represent Mrs. Schiavo in court.”

[snip]

“In April 1993, Mrs. Schiavo’s money was valued at $776,254, court records show. By April 1998, it was down to $713,825.

”The money, managed first by Barnett Bank and now South Trust Bank, was invested in blue chip stocks, such as Coca-Cola, Walt Disney and Proctor & Gamble; corporate and U.S. Treasury bonds and a money market account."

A portfolio such as that could have earned $70,000 a year or more. Especially during the mid to late 1990's. It cost $3,000 to $5,000 a month to live in a nursing home.

How long has Terri been in that ho$pice, and who has been paying for that?

747 posted on 11/09/2003 10:19:25 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands; Ohioan from Florida; msmagoo; sweetliberty
For future reference, this is the Google cached page of the page that was on Terrisfight.org. about Terri's medical fund: Terri's Medical Fund is Being Used To Facilitate Her Death

That is where the info from Post 373 came from, that breaks down the fees paid out of her trust fund through Sept of 2001. It also has some other good information on it, if you haven't seen it before.

This is from the article in Post #423, dated June 3, 2001:

Records show that George Felos, Michael Schiavo's litigation attorney, has been paid more than $200,000 since 1997. Another Schiavo attorney, Deborah Bushnell, got $27,000. Schiavo himself was reimbursed almost $6,000 for legal costs.

I don't see any $6,000 disbursement to Michael, so maybe the $3,535 note payable payment is part of that? But that still leaves approx $2,500 of MS's reimbursement that doesn't show up as being paid out...

Another thing I thought was noteworthy from the St. Pete Times article mentioned above is this quote:

Last year, the clerk of court's office, which processes those requests, questioned whether Felos should receive money for speaking to the media for hours. The judge did not stop the payments to Felos, who receives $195 an hour and $225 an hour for appellate work.

So Felos was trying to get paid for his time spent spinning to the media. Wonder what other "legal fees" he had that were questionable?
748 posted on 11/09/2003 10:20:05 AM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
Sorry, LV - looks like I kinda double posted part of your 594.
749 posted on 11/09/2003 10:23:26 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: T'wit
That's standard protocol, routine practice. When a case is closed, the court gets rid of stuff like exhibits so that it has less papers in their ever-growing files. No alarm here.
750 posted on 11/09/2003 10:23:34 AM PST by nicmarlo
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