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FReeper Canteen ~ Get Out The Military Vote! ~ February 12, 2004
MoJo2001;Fawnn;Diva Betsy Ross; Kathy in Alaska ; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub;FRiends of the Canteen

Posted on 02/11/2004 8:29:37 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

 
 
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(We will not allow them to be denied!)
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Welcome to the Canteen Sports Corner!

As you can see, we have taken a break from sports for today. If you still can't live without your sports, please look on the bottom left hand side of the thread. The sports links will be provided as usual.
 


Today we have decided to do a thread on getting the vote out for our military heroes and their families. While many of you have already taken care of this issue, there are still quite a few that have not. With that in mind, we decided to help you out.

The FReeper Canteen does steer clear of politics as much as possible. We believe that you should be able to visit the Canteen to get away from all the dramas in your life. We include politics as one of them. However, we believe strongly that as you are defending America so bravely around the world and at home; it is important that your voice be heard for the upcoming Presidential election.
Register To Vote
We will try to keep everyone informed about any changes that may occur throughout this process. Links will be provided around this thread with the locations of where you can register. If you are able to get to a computer, you will have no problems doing this. If you have loved ones that can help you with this process, we hope to make this as easy as possible for them. As always, if you have any questions, please email us at
canteenusa@canteenusa.com . Or please put the questions on the thread for possible answers or help.


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You fight so bravely and valiantly on our behalf. It is the least any of us can expect that your votes are counted and not disregarded because of politics. The way around this is to get the information on absentee ballots as soon as possible. Don't wait to do it. If you have a few minutes on the computer after "visiting" with loved ones, it should be a simple step. If you have any problems, please email us at the above email. We will try to help as much as we can.

Thank you.

By the way, we are kicking off our own Presidential campaign today. Check below for further information. If you want a man for all people, then you won't want to miss this!

Vote America

 


 
What if I am in the military?logo of the Federal Voting Assistance Program

Military personnel may apply for voter registration and/or request absentee ballots with a Federal Post Card Application (FPCA) which may be obtained from the Unit Voting Officer. If the FPCA is not available, phone, send a written request to the Supervisor of Elections Office, or use the on-line request form.

Spouses and dependents are considered to be of the same category of absentee voter as military members and generally should follow the same rules.

Click on the logo for more information!

 

2004 Election Logo

Do you know who represents you in Congress?

If you don't have any idea who represents you, please click below.

U.S. Senate
U.S. Congress

Things To Remember:

1. Most officials on the state elections boards are very helpful and will not hesitate to provide as much information as they can.

2. They are not allowed to persuade you to vote for any specific political party. They are there to provide a service to you, not to promote campaigns or political parties.

3. Many States allow you to register to vote when you renew or register for a driver's license. You can find out more information here from the DMV.

4. You must be a US citizen to vote in any election. It is illegal and prosecutable by law if you are caught voting as a non-citizen.

5. Many states require that you have a picture identification when you vote. So? Keep that in mind when you go to the polls to vote.

6. If you are stationed overseas, please click on the "Service Voting Web Sites" on the left hand side. Your commands should have someone on staff to help with any voting issues that may arise. If not, please visit your "home of record" (your home address when you entered the military) to find the information.

7. Postage is important. As soon as you receive your ballot, please vote and then mail it back as soon as possible. Don't wait too long or your ballot may not count. Every vote matters.

8. If you are a dependant, you can help alleviate any registration problems by calling, emailing, or mailing the service member's home of record. Most of the time they will mail out the voting registration information and you will have to send it back to them as quickly as possible.

9. There are deadlines for having absentee ballot registrations filed or returned. Check to make sure that you have plenty of time to file and return your ballot.

10. Your voice. Your vote. Stand Up and Be Counted!


Information gathered for this thread was provided by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, Kathy In Alaska, Auntie Fawnn, & Diva Betsy Ross. MoJo, we assume, did something. Who knows with that chick. The information for voting came from various sources that can be found on the internet
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


BURKA MAN FOR PRESIDENT IN 04 !!!!

 


Are you tired of longwinded politicians who say and promise everything under the moon?

Are you tired of people bothering you while you sit lazily on your couch and belch?

 

 

Are you just bored?
 




Ask yourself this question: What Would Lady Liberty Do?

She'd vote for Burka Man. That's what she'd do!

(I'm cool, huh?)
Ask any of the people running if they have such cool things to wear?

Learn more about this man of mystery below!!

 




Burka Man: What's underneath that Burka?

Ask any woman that has ever known Burka man and they will all tell you the same thing:

"He has an 'air' about him. He's all about putting on 'airs'. Or at least causing air pollution. Either way he's somewhat decent. However, I would never have given authorization for that photo to be shown. Oh well. I'm not his mother."

---Queen Bentfeather

"He's my brother. He has issues with deodorant. Some people are like that. What can I say?"
---Bethy


"He really does have a funk about him. Not in the way most people would think, but then most people don't spend that much time thinking about him."
--his beloved Auntie Fawnn

"Burka man is just lovely. Absolutely lovely. Did I mention he's lovely? Just make sure he's about 6 states away from you and you'll find him to be absolutely charming.
---The Goddess

I just knew he was a breath of fresh something when he was born. I just knew by the way the nurses were holding their  noses that this one was gonna be special.
--Ma

"I'm adopted. I don't know what planet created him. I wish they'd call him home soon. Too bad he didn't leave with E.T."
--MoJo

"He inspires me to do a prayer ping every night. I figure if someone like him can make it, we all can."
--trussell

"I have a boatload of money. I don't need to smell his funk everyday. I'm not traumatized by that drama."
--beachn4fun

"He's nice in a burka man wearing kind of way."
---Diva Betsy Ross

"He's very patriotic. I'm sure his Ma is very proud."
---StarCMC

 

Q. Are you pro-woman?
A. I'm pro-everything. You wanna do it. I'm all for it. As long as I don't have to pay for it or hear about it, go ahead.
Why Should I Vote For Burka Man?

 
Burka Man believes in America. He was raised in a patriotic household. Despite not knowing who the man responsible for partially creating him is, he has managed to live a somewhat interesting life. He has a Ma and a million siblings. Too many to name or to interview. He found some success as a used car salesman, but truly struck it rich when he founded his Burka Man Department Stores. Quite the entrepreneurial spirit.

So? Where does he stand on the issues?
Q: National security is a big issue these days. How would you make America safer?

A.
I would give people in America an option: Go Nakid or Wear Burkas! Individuality is someone else's nightmare. Not mine. Besides, it's cheaper.
Q: Do you believe it was right to get rid of Saddam Hussein?

A. That man had problems. The first hint should have come when he ordered a truckload of Viagra and Rogaine. With that kind of power and energy, any man can become a weapon of mass destruction all by himself.
Q.  How are the Troops doing?
A. They are the best. It doesn't matter what non-Burka man leads them because they will get the job done anyways. If they had a commander in chief who loved wearing a Burka, they would be in better shape.
Q. What would you do with Iran and Saudi Arabia?
A. First, I'd make them get rid of the black burkas. Black burkas are depressing. We aren't going to a funeral in New Orleans. Second, I'd make all of the men wear sparkly Burkas. They would all be less frustrated. Then I'd unleash our Troops on them. It's easier to track terrorists when they are wearing sparklies.
Q. What do you think about the color coded terror alerts?
A. I would simplify it. If you love America, you wear a red, white, and blue Burka. If you hate America, you'll wear a Bullseye burka.
Q. Do you believe in free education?
A. Free education for everyone! Hooters! Here we come!
Q: What would you like to change about America?
A. We take way too many baths in this country. No bathing allowed during my Presidency. I will sign it into law.
Q. Will you share more of your thoughts with people in the coming days and months?
A. On a need to know basis.
 
Q. What would you do to stimulate more jobs for the economy?
A. I would put everyone that needs a job to work at Burkas R Us, Victoria's Burka Secrets, or Burka Limited. Anyone of respectability would be knocking themselves over to be employed at those renowned places of employment.

 


Hi!

I'm Burka Man!

I'm running for President and I need your help.

If you are tired of not seeing enough beer or Hooters commercials on TV, vote for me. I can change that.

If you are tired of seeing taxpayer dollars wasted on social programs that help your loud neighbor with an obnoxious wife, vote for me. I'll make sure he moves outta the neighborhood and we'll send her to Siberia for some quiet time with Mother Nature.

If you are tired of seeing someone else get promoted because they are a suck up and annoy the fellow office workers, don't worry. Vote for me. I'll make sure to send them on permanent assignment in North Korea. They can use their talents there.

If you are tired of certain Navy wives who like to drool at Marines running, don't worry. Vote for me. I'll make sure to send her and those like her to the Department Of the Navy's "Classes For Wayward Navy Wives That Need A Clue". We want to make sure she and they understand that the USMC falls under the Department of the Navy.

If you want to make America a better place, vote for me. If you think Burka Man is sexy, please email or call me. Oh! Don't forget to vote for me.


This message was paid for by the Burka Man For President Campaign. We don't know where he got the funds, but we didn't ask. We'll let you know if the check bounces!

 



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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Thanks Diva. LOL
361 posted on 02/12/2004 4:09:31 PM PST by Soaring Feather (~ I do Poetry and Party among the stars~)
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To: tomkow6

Tomkow gets the Hat trick!!


(Thrown into the ring!)

362 posted on 02/12/2004 4:15:55 PM PST by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: Kathy in Alaska; Bethbg79; All

~ Hank Wiliams Jr.~ New Orleans~

363 posted on 02/12/2004 4:16:33 PM PST by Soaring Feather (~ I do Poetry and Party among the stars~)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
You're making me hungry!! Guess I'd better get to work on dinner! Welcome home!!
364 posted on 02/12/2004 4:17:10 PM PST by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: tomkow6; bentfeather; StarCMC; Bethbg79; MoJo2001
Yes, Angel Boy, I do believe you did get a hat tricK!!


365 posted on 02/12/2004 4:24:42 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless America and Our Military Who Protect Her)
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To: txradioguy
Congratulations John!
Here's hoping you take 1st place!
366 posted on 02/12/2004 4:37:09 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Welcome to the Canteen!
367 posted on 02/12/2004 4:39:16 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: ChefKeith; NormsRevenge
"Tonk, You gonna join us today?"

I was gone all day.
Every Thur is my Coast Guard Auxiliary "duty day."
368 posted on 02/12/2004 4:46:22 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: tomkow6

tomkow6!!! #350!!!

369 posted on 02/12/2004 4:47:14 PM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Yum on the soup! (Tonight's chicken night here. Thighs are in the oven!)
370 posted on 02/12/2004 4:48:40 PM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
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To: Fawnn

371 posted on 02/12/2004 4:56:54 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops, Past and Present)
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To: Kathy in Alaska
Hi, 4CJ. Thanks for helping honor our heroes.

My pleasure. Sr. Airman (pararescue) Jason D. Cunningham died in Afghanistan. He was deployed from Moody AFB in Valdosta, GA. Almost all my neighbors are military - right now it's especially tough for many of them. We've lost a few more, but the local station still runs ads with their name/picture and a thanks.

372 posted on 02/12/2004 5:06:12 PM PST by 4CJ (||) Support free speech and stop CFR - visit www.ArmorforCongress.com (||)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
LOL (I used Spectrum Naturals grapeseed spray to treat the pans. I'm holding out 'til somebody names a neater product after me. A nonstick spray, indeed! I deserve better than that!)
373 posted on 02/12/2004 5:11:14 PM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
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To: LindaSOG
I hope you are feeling better Co-Captain!


374 posted on 02/12/2004 5:12:03 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops, Past and Present)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; LindaSOG; Radix; 2LT Radix jr; LaDivaLoca; Severa; Bethbg79; ...


375 posted on 02/12/2004 5:36:10 PM PST by tomkow6 (...BURKA! Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life...BURKA! Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life)
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January 27, 2004, 8:25 a.m.
Vetting the Vet Record
Is Kerry a proud war hero or angry antiwar protester?

John Kerry, we know, is running against John Kerry: his own voting record. But there is another record that John Kerry is running against, and this has to do with his very emergence as a Democratic politician: Kerry, the proud Vietnam veteran vs. Kerry, the antiwar activist who accused his fellow Vietnam veterans of the most heinous atrocities imaginable.

John Kerry not only served honorably in Vietnam, but also with distinction, earning a Silver Star (America's third-highest award for valor), a Bronze Star, and three awards of the Purple Heart for wounds received in combat as a swift-boat commander. Kerry did not return from Vietnam a radical antiwar activist. According to the indispensable Stolen Valor, by H. G. "Jug" Burkett and Genna Whitley, "Friends said that when Kerry first began talking about running for office, he was not visibly agitated about the Vietnam War. 'I thought of him as a rather normal vet,' a friend said to a reporter, 'glad to be out but not terribly uptight about the war.' Another acquaintance who talked to Kerry about his political ambitions called him a 'very charismatic fellow looking for a good issue.'" Apparently, this good issue would be Vietnam.

Kerry hooked up with an organization called Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW). Two events cooked up by this group went a long way toward cementing in the public mind the image of Vietnam as one big atrocity. The first of these was the January 31, 1971, "Winter Soldier Investigation," organized by "the usual suspects" among antiwar celebrities such as Jane Fonda, Dick Gregory, and Kennedy-assassination conspiracy theorist, Mark Lane. Here, individuals purporting to be Vietnam veterans told horrible stories of atrocities in Vietnam: using prisoners for target practice, throwing them out of helicopters, cutting off the ears of dead Viet Cong soldiers, burning villages, and gang-raping women as a matter of course.

The second event was "Dewey Canyon III," or what VVAW called a "limited incursion into the country of Congress" in April of 1971. It was during this VVAW "operation" that John Kerry first came to public attention. The group marched on Congress to deliver petitions to Congress and then to the White House. The highlight of this event occurred when veterans threw their medals and ribbons over a fence in front of the Capitol, symbolizing a rebuke to the government that they claimed had betrayed them. One of the veterans flinging medals back in the face of his government was John Kerry, although it turns out they were not his medals, but someone else's.

Several days later Kerry testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. His speech, touted as a spontaneous rhetorical endeavor, was a tour de force, convincing many Americans that their country had indeed waged a merciless and immoral war in Vietnam. It was particularly powerful because Kerry did not fit the antiwar-protester mold ­ he was no scruffy, wide-eyed hippie. He was instead the best that America had to offer. He was, according to Burkett and Whitley, the "All-American boy, mentally twisted by being asked to do terrible things, then abandoned by his government."

Kerry began by referring to the Winter Soldiers Investigation in Detroit. Here, he claimed, "over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command."

It is impossible to describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit, the emotions in the room, the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in Vietnam, but they did, they relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do.

They told their stories. At times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

This is quite a bill of particulars to lay at the feet of the U.S. military. He said in essence that his fellow veterans had committed unparalleled war crimes in Vietnam as a matter of course, indeed, that it was American policy to commit such atrocities.

In fact, the entire Winter Soldiers Investigation was a lie. It was inspired by Mark Lane's 1970 book entitled Conversations with Americans, which claimed to recount atrocity stories by Vietnam veterans. This book was panned by James Reston Jr. and Neil Sheehan, not exactly known as supporters of the Vietnam War. Sheehan in particular demonstrated that many of Lane's "eye witnesses" either had never served in Vietnam or had not done so in the capacity they claimed.

Nonetheless, Sen. Mark Hatfield inserted the transcript of the Winter Soldier testimonies into the Congressional Record and asked the Commandant of the Marine Corps to investigate the war crimes allegedly committed by Marines. When the Naval Investigative Service attempted to interview the so-called witnesses, most refused to cooperate, even after assurances that they would not be questioned about atrocities they may have committed personally. Those that did cooperate never provided details of actual crimes to investigators. The NIS also discovered that some of the most grisly testimony was given by fake witnesses who had appropriated the names of real Vietnam veterans. Guenter Lewy tells the entire study in his book, America in Vietnam.

Kerry's 1971 testimony includes every left-wing cliché about Vietnam and the men who served there. It is part of the reason that even today, people who are too young to remember Vietnam are predisposed to believe the worst about the Vietnam War and those who fought it. This predisposition was driven home by the fraudulent "Tailwind" episode some months ago.

The first cliché is that atrocities were widespread in Vietnam. But this is nonsense. Atrocities did occur in Vietnam, but they were far from widespread. Between 1965 and 1973, 201 soldiers and 77 Marines were convicted of serious crimes against the Vietnamese. Of course, the fact that many crimes, either in war or peace, go unreported, combined with the particular difficulties encountered by Americans fighting in Vietnam, suggest that more such acts were committed than reported or tried.

But even Daniel Ellsberg, a severe critic of U.S. policy in Vietnam, rejected the argument that the biggest U.S. atrocity in Vietnam, My Lai, was in any way a normal event: "My Lai was beyond the bounds of permissible behavior, and that is recognizable by virtually every soldier in Vietnam. They know it was wrong....The men who were at My Lai knew there were aspects out of the ordinary. That is why they tried to hide the event, talked about it to no one, discussed it very little even among themselves."

My Lai was an extreme case, but anyone who has been in combat understands the thin line between permissible acts and atrocity. The first and potentially most powerful emotion in combat is fear arising from the instinct of self-preservation. But in soldiers, fear is overcome by what the Greeks called thumos, spiritedness and righteous anger. In the Iliad, it is thumos, awakened by the death of his comrade Patroclus that causes Achilles to leave sulking in his tent and wade into the Trojans.

But unchecked, thumos can engender rage and frenzy. It is the role of leadership, which provides strategic context for killing and enforces discipline, to prevent this outcome. Such leadership was not in evidence at My Lai.

But My Lai also must be placed within a larger context. The NVA and VC frequently committed atrocities, not as a result of thumos run amok, but as a matter of policy. While left-wing anti-war critics of U.S. policy in Vietnam were always quick to invoke Auschwitz and the Nazis in discussing alleged American atrocities, they were silent about Hue City, where a month and a half before My Lai, the North Vietnamese and VC systematically murdered 3,000 people. They were also willing to excuse Pol Pot's mass murderer of upwards of a million Cambodians.

The second cliché is that is that Vietnam scarred an entire generation of young men. But for years, many of us who served in Vietnam tried to make the case that the popular image of the Vietnam vet as maladjusted loser, dehumanized killer, or ticking "time bomb" was at odds with reality. Indeed, it was our experience that those who had served in Vietnam generally did so with honor, decency, and restraint; that despite often being viewed with distrust or opprobrium at home, most had asked for nothing but to be left alone to make the transition back to civilian life; and that most had in fact made that transition if not always smoothly, at least successfully.

But the press could always find the stereotypical, traumatized vet who could be counted on to tell the most harrowing and gruesome stories of combat in Vietnam, often involving atrocities, the sort of stories that John Kerry gave credence to in his 1971 testimony. Many of the war stories recounted by these individuals were wildly implausible to any one who had been in Vietnam, but credulous journalists, most of whom had no military experience, uncritically passed their reports along to the public.

I had always agreed with the observation of the late Harry Summers, a well-known military commentator who served as an infantryman in Korean and Vietnam, that the story teller's distance from the battle zone was directly proportional to the gruesomeness of his atrocity story. But until the publication of the aforementioned Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of Its Heroes and its History, neither Harry nor I any idea just how true his observation was.

In the course of trying to raise money for a Texas Vietnam Veterans Memorial, Burkett discovered that reporters were only interested in homeless veterans and drug abuse and that the corporate leaders he approached had bought into the popular image of Vietnam veterans. They were not honorable men who took pride in their service, but whining welfare cases, bellyaching about what an immoral government did to them.

Fed up, Burkett did something that any reporter worth his or her salt could have done: he used the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to check the actual records of the "image makers" used by reporters to flesh out their stories on homelessness, Agent Orange, suicide, drug abuse, criminality, or alcoholism. What he found was astounding. More often than not, the showcase "veteran" who cried on camera about his dead buddies, about committing or witnessing atrocities, or about some heroic action in combat that led him to the current dead end in his life, was an impostor.

Indeed, Burkett discovered that over the last decade, some 1,700 individuals, including some of the most prominent examples of the Vietnam veteran as dysfunctional loser, had fabricated their war stories. Many had never even been in the service. Others, had been, but had never been in Vietnam.

Stolen Valor made it clear why John Kerry's testimony in 1971 slandered an entire generation of soldiers. Kerry gave credence to the claim that the war was fought primarily by reluctant draftees, predominantly composed of the poor, the young, or racial minorities.

The record shows something different, indicating that 86 percent of those who died during the war were white and 12.5 percent were black, from an age group in which blacks comprised 13.1 percent of the population. Two thirds of those who served in Vietnam were volunteers, and volunteers accounted for 77 percent of combat deaths.

Kerry portrayed the Vietnam veteran as ashamed of his service:

We wish that a merciful God could wipe away our own memories of that service as easily as this administration has wiped their memories of us. But all that they have done and all that they can do by this denial is to make more clear than ever our own determination to undertake one last mission, to search out and destroy the last vestige of this barbaric war, to pacify our own hearts, to conquer the hate and the fear that have driven this country these last ten years and more, and so when in 30 years from now our brothers go down the street without a leg, without an arm, or a face, and small boys ask why, we will be able to say "Vietnam" and not mean a desert, not a filthy obscene memory, but mean instead the place where America finally turned and where soldiers like us helped it in the turning.

But a comprehensive 1980 survey commissioned by Veterans' Administration (VA) reported that 91 percent of those who had seen combat in Vietnam were "glad they had served their country;" 80 percent disagreed with the statement that "the US took advantage of me;" and nearly two out of three would go to Vietnam again, even knowing how the war would end.

Today, Sen. Kerry appeals to veterans in his quest for the White House. He invokes his Vietnam service at every turn. But an honest, enterprising reporter should ask Sen. Kerry this: Were you lying in 1971 or are you lying now? We do know that his speech was not the spontaneous, emotional, from-the-heart offering that he suggested it was. Burkett and Whitley report that instead, "it had been carefully crafted by a speech writer for Robert Kennedy named Adam Walinsky, who also tutored him on how to present it."

But the issue goes far beyond theatrics. If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service. Who can be proud of committing war crimes of the sort that Kerry recounted in his 1971 testimony? But if he is proud of his service today, perhaps it is because he always knew that his indictment in 1971 was a piece of political theater that he, an aspiring politician, exploited merely as a "good issue." If the latter is true, he should apologize to every veteran of that war for slandering them to advance his political fortunes.

­ Mackubin Thomas Owens is an NRO contributing editor and a professor of strategy and force planning at the Naval War College in Newport, R.I. He led a Marine infantry platoon in Vietnam in 1968-1969.
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Ann Coulter






Cash and Kerry
http://www.NewsAndOpinion.com | After the New Hampshire primary, Dennis Kucinich's new slogan is: ".001 Percent of America Can't Be Wrong!" John Edwards' new slogan is: "Vote for Me or We'll See You in Court." Joe Lieberman's new slogan is: "Sixth Place Is Not an Option." (Bumper sticker version: "Ask Me About My Delegate.") Al Sharpton's new slogan is "Hello? Room Service?" Wesley Clark's new slogan is: "Leading America's War on Fetuses." Howard Dean's new slogan is: "I Want to Be Your President ... And So Do I!"

That leaves John Kerry (new slogan: "Nous Sommes Nombre Un!"), who is winning Democratic voters in droves on the basis of his superior ability to taunt George Bush for his lack of combat experience. Like every war hero I've ever met, John Kerry seems content to spend his days bragging about his battlefield exploits. Wait, wait ... Let me correct that last sentence: like no war hero I've ever met ...

As everyone has heard approximately 1 billion times by now, Kerry boasts that he has REAL experience with aircraft carriers, and if Bush wants to run on national security, then ... BRING IT ON!

I note that when George Bush directed that precise phrase at Islamic terrorists who yearn to slaughter American women and children, liberals were enraged at the macho posturing of it. But they feel "Bring it on!" is a perfectly appropriate expression when directed at a dangerous warmonger like George Bush. ("Bring it on!" was deemed better than Kerry's first impulse, "Let's get busy, sister!")

Kerry was indisputably brave in Vietnam, and it's kind of cute to see Democrats pretend to admire military service. Physical courage, like chastity, is something liberals usually deride, but are tickled when it accidentally manifests itself in one of their own. One has to stand in awe of Kerry's military service 33 years ago. Of course, that's where it ends, including with Kerry - inasmuch as, upon his return from war in 1970, he promptly began trashing his fellow Vietnam vets by calling them genocidal murderers.

But if Bush can't talk to Kerry about the horrors of war, then Kerry sure as hell can't talk to anyone about the plight of the middle class. Kerry's life experience consists of living off other men's money by marrying their wives and daughters.

For over 30 years, Kerry's primary occupation has been stalking lonely heiresses. Not to get back to his combat experience, but Kerry sees a room full of wealthy widows as "a target-rich environment." This is a guy whose experience dealing with tax problems is based on spending his entire adult life being supported by rich women. What does a kept man know about taxes?







In 1970, Kerry married into the family of Julia Thorne - a family estimated to be worth about $300 million. She got depressed, so he promptly left her and was soon seen catting around with Hollywood starlets, mostly while the cad was still married. (Apparently, JFK really was his mentor.) Thorne is well-bred enough to say nothing ill of her Lothario ex-husband. He is, after all, the father of her children - a fact that never seemed to constrain him.

When Kerry was about to become the latest Heinz family charity, he sought to have his marriage to Thorne annulled, despite the fact that it had produced two children. It seems his second meal ticket, Teresa Heinz, wanted the first marriage annulled - and Heinz is worth more than $700 million. Kerry claims he will stand up to powerful interests, but he can't even stand up to his wife.

Heinz made Kerry sign a prenuptial agreement, presumably aware of how careless he is with other people's property, such as other people's Vietnam War medals, which Kerry threw on the ground during a 1971 anti-war demonstration.

At pains to make Kerry sound like a normal American, his campaign has described how Kerry risked everything, mortgaging his home in Boston to help pay for his presidential campaign. Technically, Kerry took out a $6 million mortgage for "his share" of "the family's home" - which was bought with the Heinz family fortune. (Why should he spend his own money? He didn't throw away his own medals.) I'm sure the average working stiff in Massachusetts can relate to a guy who borrows $6 million against his house to pay for TV ads.

Kerry's campaign has stoutly insisted that he will pay off the mortgage himself, with no help from his rich wife. Let's see: According to tax returns released by his campaign, in 2002, Kerry's income was $144,091. But as the Washington Post recently reported, even a $5 million mortgage paid back over 30 years at favorable interest rates would cost $30,389 a month - or $364,668 a year.

The Democrats' joy at nominating Kerry is perplexing. To be sure, liberals take a peculiar, wrathful pleasure in supporting pacifist military types. And Kerry's life story is not without a certain feral aggression. But if we're going to determine fitness for office based on life experience, Kerry clearly has no experience dealing with problems of typical Americans since he is a cad and a gigolo living in the lap of other men's money.

Kerry is like some character in a Balzac novel, an adventurer twirling the end of his mustache and preying on rich women. This low-born poseur with his threadbare pseudo-Brahmin family bought a political career with one rich woman's money, dumped her, and made off with another heiress to enable him to run for president. If Democrats want to talk about middle-class tax cuts, couldn't they nominate someone who hasn't been a poodle to rich women for the past 33 years?

376 posted on 02/12/2004 5:48:33 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Kathy in Alaska
Hi Kathy in Alaska,Pray for our Jim,he is flying in Tom.Taking Mary out for Valentine's day dinner-his dream while on the ship in the war,hang out with her friends,goes back Monday morning to be back on ship and report for duty,isn't this nice.
377 posted on 02/12/2004 5:51:21 PM PST by fatima (Karen ,Ken 4 ID,Jim-Karen is coming home from Iraq March 1st,WooHoo)
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To: fatima
Hello Fatima . . . prayers for Karen's safe trip home. My DIL will be leaving iraq at the end of March, after a one year tour of duty there.


378 posted on 02/12/2004 5:56:12 PM PST by HopeandGlory (Hey, Liberals . . . PC died on 9/11 . . . GET USED TO IT!!!)
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To: HopeandGlory

JONI MITCHELL-PARKING LOT

LADYSMITH BLACK MAMBAZO & PERTER GABRIEL-BIKO

379 posted on 02/12/2004 6:04:46 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: bentfeather
Thanks, ms feather, for Ronnie Milsap.


380 posted on 02/12/2004 6:07:43 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless America and Our Military Who Protect Her)
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