Fingerprint links Oregon with Spain

Oregonian Live ^ | May 08, 2004 | Marc Larabee, Steven Beaven, Kathleen Blythe, Bryan Denson and Lori Tobias

[CurlyDave]

I read the layman's term "detonator" as meaning an electrical blasting cap

A blasting cap is certainly one of the more common types of detonators.

The news reports at the time said the muslims had traded a substantial amount of hashish for explosives stolen from a quarry. The explosives were of Spanish manufacture and also included a quantity of blasting caps.

Wasn't there even a report of them being stopped for some traffic offense with hundreds of kilos of explosives in the trunk of their stolen car? The car had not yet been reported stolen, so they got a ticket & went on their way.

The problem I see with Mayfield's involvement is that the Palestinians, the Greeks, the muslims in France, in Algeria and just about any place there are muslims, already know how to rig a cell phone as a trigger. Any moderately competent electronics tech could figure this out on his own in less than an hour given a cell phone he could sacrifice. Why anyone would go to the time, trouble and risk of involving a US muslim is a big question.

If Mayfield was involved, a significant possibility would be that someone wanted a hold on him. Blackmail him into participating on an attack in the US by threatening to reveal his involvement with the Spanish attack.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks Heavy Equipment Guy.

[Travis McGee]

Good questions. Certainly, the same supply of commercial grade explosives in Spain could have provided electrical blasting caps. But who knows?

[jocon307]

"[W]hy would he ship them a "bag" from the US, they could get bags anyplace in Madrid."

But really, why would he ship them anything? Couldn't they get detonaters in Spain too? Or maybe they couldn't, if they were being watched. But where they being watched? If so, not closely enough.

He's gotta know something, this guy. The odds of this being a coincidence are off the scale.

Great backround piece, interesting to learn he converted to please his wife. He's handsome, she's most unattractive, at least from pictures I saw the other day.

This story may end up revealing how deep the Muslim plot to take over America from within really is.

[piasa]

They have a fascination for shipping things.

In the East Africa US Embassy bombing cases, communication between operatives and 'middle managers' and bin Laden would consist of packages and notes written to one person containing contact numbers for another, who in turn had info to contact yet another higher-up member of al Qaeda.

al Marri of 'second wave fame' had a tunk shipped to the US with him which the FBI thought to be very interesting.

Atta also mailed a package back to the middle east right before his human cruise missile trick.

And then there is this- mailing 'seeds.'

"He [bin Laden] was a busy person and had hundreds of people working for him," said one El Hage family member. "You didn't get to see him unless he invited you." El Hage's mother-in-law received letters from El Hage that contained seed samples from the Sudanese farms. El Hage frequently took international trips to Europe and elsewhere on business for bin Laden, family members say. -"A Portrait of Wadih El Hage, Accused Terrorist," by Oriana Zill, Frontline, PBS.org, http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/upclose/elhage.html.(Oriana Zill was Associate Producer of FRONTLINE's "Hunting Bin Laden")

It's worth noting that Iraq had heavy influence in Sudan when bin Laden was in the farming business.

[piasa]

Bin Laden's past of being in the road construction biz probably means they have easy access to blasting caps and other detonators. Also, it may be that the bag that had this guy's fingerprint on it had different contents originally than what was ultimately found in it.

[Sacajaweau]

She is not as bad as the picture of her in her Muslim gear. There is an old family picture, maybe 8 years old. She is quite attractive in that picture.

The entire family is dressed in American style clothes. It almost looks like an Easter Sunday picture as the little girl has a hat on similar to what one might see on Easter Sunday. So she played "I'm and American" for a long time. I'm more suspicious of her as hubby's helpmate. SHE has mideast connections AND knows several languages.

Mayfield and the sniper's lives run in parallel tracks. Where were the Mayfields on 9-11 and what were their comments?

[An.American.Expatriate]

GSM equipment is the European Standard!!

[buffyt]

I was trying to figure out why someone suspected of a crime in another country would be arrested in USA. I guess because of the nature of the crime, if he is guilty, and our upcoming elections in Nov.? They were afraid he would try the same thing here? I thought if you committed a crime in another country, you were home scott free. I guess the new global cooperation in the Western countries, is the reason for this? I remember that man who fled to France, after killing his girlfriend, and he stayed there for decades. I guess it all depends on the crime, how serious it is, and if you are a threat to the country where you are??????

[Grampa Dave]

America has had extradition for suspected criminals with our allies for a long time.

The last thing a country wants to be is a criminal sanctuary.

France doesn't extradite criminals who committed murder because we have the death penalty.

Canada takes forever in that situation.

[C4GoBoom]

More dots to connect, but Western blindness still fails to see the pattern. It would require nothing short of a swift kick to the head to wake up most individuals. I thought 911 would have been that gratuitous kick, seems like I was in error.

[blackie]

I do remember that ~ thanx!

[devolve]

Blasing caps?

You know they are.


Chuckie Schumer & Carolyn McCarthy & DiFi & Hillary


"Inspector Taggant" Alert!

Obviously manufactured by a greedy evil US capitalist!


- but an oddball left coast "Religion of Pssssss" radical shyster is being framed just because of his fingerprints on a bag on the other side of the globe.....

[AuntB]

It's goin' good, blackie, thank you!! I wish the rest of the world had as much peace and quiet around them. How's our blackie?

[Imal]

Check THIS out, especially the contrast between what is revealed in this article compared to what FReepers know about our dear Mr. Mayfield.

I have independently confirmed some of this stuff. This is by no means simply about a fingerprint.

[eddie willers]

My guess is that this is the sort of glowing endorsement that would go over well with the liberal coffee-house crowd in Portland...

If she had $600,000,000.... John Kerry would marry her.

[blackie]

I'm glad to hear that "B"!

We're doing great here in beautiful Eugene, everything is perfect!

Thanks for asking. :)

[piasa]

bttt

[eleni121]

BUMP for later read

[Sacajaweau]

Found this little tidbit on Atty Mayfield:

"He sometimes volunteers to help teach English to local Muslims".

1. It doesn't say they are "children".

2. I would guess that he knows the Muslim language in order to be able to do this.

3. It would seem more likely that his wife would engage in this given her language (6) skills.

4. Would make a "nice guy" cover for an anti-american.