Fingerprint links Oregon with Spain

Oregonian Live ^ | May 08, 2004 | Marc Larabee, Steven Beaven, Kathleen Blythe, Bryan Denson and Lori Tobias

[Destro]

The FBI analysts also found indications that whoever left the fingerprint on the bag involved in the Madrid bombings had some connection to the Yugoslav province of Kosovo, where international Islamic extremists have been active.

Well lookie here!

[AuntB]

World just keeps gettin' smaller, doesn't it?

[Destro]

Too small indeed: Bosnian Arrested in Madrid Bombings Probe

[blackie]

Hi "B" how's it going?

[devolve]

Go back some months

A WA/OR enviro nut and his wife

Greenpeace I think

Over 40 I believe

PU truck rings a bell

Traveled to CA also

Was loosening or removing bolts on power line transmission towers

Sorry cannot recall any Muslim connection(s), but obviously no teenage prankster

Best I can do for now

[dixiechick2000]

I understand about sick computers.
I have one myself.

I'll check out the license plates
on cars in my area (Portland Metro
Area).

[dixiechick2000]

"What was this multi nation pro $oddomite doing in Iraq with $118,000?"



That's a good question, Gramps.
Also, how did Shaltout hook up with
Thomas Nelson, Mayfield's friend and
his local media handler?

[backhoe]

AuntB, Grampa Dave... I think we have enough material to do a standalone post of links on this story. I'll get started gathering links.

[dixiechick2000]

I don't remember that, but if someone does,
please ping me.

[MeekOneGOP]

Man, that sure sounds familiar, but that's all I can offer .....

[devolve]

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DOMESTIC TERRORISM & SABOTAGE

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Portland Oregon - FBI - Warrant - 2003

power line tower saboteur

http://portland.fbi.gov/pressrel/2003/poulin.htm

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Las Vegas Nevada - tower toppled by sabotage 2001

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2000/Jan-01-Sat-2000/news/12666435.html

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-- I thought it was an Oregon link

[MeekOneGOP]

[CurlyDave]

So the timer on the phone was the detonator.

No, a cell phone is not a detonator. A detonator is: "A small, electrically activated explosive charge that explodes a larger charge." http://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Display.cfm?Term=detonator

When the news reports that cell phones were "detonators" it just shows their ignorance. The cell phones were used as triggers for the detonators.

Depending on the cell phone, it should be perfectly possible for it to be used as a timer without it ever being activated for receiving calls. The reason for using a cell phone instead of an alarm clock is that it puts out an internal electrical signal which activates the ringer. The signal

It is not obvious to me why a SIM card was necessary in the phone. All the card should do is allow the phone to make & receive calls. If I were using the phone as a timer, I would not want the phone activated to receive calls. A wrong number would lead to a serious "work accident".

[Travis McGee]

Federal investigators are examining whether a Washington County lawyer shipped materials later used by terrorists to blow up four commuter trains in Madrid on March 11, a law enforcement official said Friday. Brandon Mayfield, 37, a former U.S. Army officer and Aloha father of three, was linked to the attack that killed 191 people by a fingerprint on a bag containing detonating devices. The bag was discovered by Spanish investigators inside a van that was near the train station where three of the trains originated, officials said.

Do you read "detonating devices" as blasting caps? They are certainly light and easy to ship.

[Travis McGee]

I read the layman's term "detonator" as meaning an electrical blasting cap, a small hollow aluminum tube about three inches long and 3/16" diameter, with two thin wires coming out of one end. It's filled with a bit of PETN or other explosive. If our lawyer jihadist had any pals with connections to mining or demolition, that would be a big lead. As a commo specialist in the Army, he would not have had access to them.

[Squantos]

Caps, Squibs, EBW's, ................yep.

Stay Safe !

[piasa]

Mike Hawash underwent a similar change in shaving habits and dress as he was radicalized.

[piasa]

One of the members of the Portland Cell worked in the Dept of Transportation as an roadway engineer, I believe. Wouldn't he have access to something like that?

[Free Trapper]

Halstead,Kansas is close enough to Fort Riley and Junction City,Kansas that Mayfield "could" have done any shopping for illicit materials in that area,especially if he already had contacts there.

Years back,at least,Junction City was known as a place where you could buy nearly anything if you had the money.

Even stolen items from quarrys,oilfield,etc.,that were too "hot" to sell elsewhere could be sold or fenced in the area."Anything" that someone could steal from the Fort would be available around there,too.

I don't think it would be that much of a problem to get ahold of blasting caps,or anything else,if a person is willing to steal or pay blackmarket prices. :(

[Travis McGee]

When used as directed, explosives (and blasting caps) basically disappear. It makes it easy to divert a few for personal use or resale. I hope the FBI and ATF are all over this.