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salon.com contacts DFU over FR's role in murder of Nick Berg by Islamofascist Terrorist b*st*rds
email from salon.com reporter | 5-12-04 | dfu

Posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by doug from upland

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Apparently, I am in the middle of a controversy regarding the brutal murder of Nick Berg by the Islamofascist terrorist b*st*rds.

I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record. I will either call him back on the record or he can use my comments here on the record.

Salon.com inquiry, your post on the "enemies list"
From (redacted) | 05/12/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT read

Doug,

Hello. My name is (redacted), and I'm a reporter at Salon.com. On March 7, you posted a list of signatories to an ANSWER protest; that list, which is now being discussed by a few left-leaning bloggers, includes the name of "Michael S. Berg," who is the father of Nick Berg, the man beheaded in Iraq.

It seems as if you just posted a copy of the list from the ANSWER site, but the trouble is, your list appears much longer than the one on their page. Michael Berg's name -- and many others -- is not on their page.

So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?

I also wonder what you think about the fact that you named these people enemies; do you really think they're enemies? Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted. I wonder what you think of that idea?

I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story, and it'd be great to get your input. Can you e-mail or call, or let me know where to reach you? Thanks so much.

--(redacted)
Reporter, Salon.com (phone number redacted)

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NOTE: my first suggestion was to tell the report to ask ANSWER why many of the names have been removed from that original post.

Here is my post from a few months ago -- HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names

Here is the link for the following excerpt on an FR thread -- Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

Original source -- original article by Fintan Dunne

Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Breakfornews.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Fintan Dunne
Posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Tarantulas
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death.

Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.

The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.

The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, often fanatical Republican and relentless pro-war activism.

On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.

It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."

The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).

Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."

That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.

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Here is my immediate reaction --- what is the color of the sky in the fantasy world which Fintan Dunne calls home?

I can't wait for her next story. Let's set the scenario. Two guys are driving to the airport. Their upper radiator hose bursts, the car overheats, and they miss their flight. They get to the airport a few hours late and are able to catch the next plane. The plane crashes. Fintan Dunne headline: Pep Boys Implicated in Death of Innocent Travelers. If anyone could conceive such twisted logic, it would be Ms. Dunne. Without a defective radiator hose, they would have made it to the airport on time. Without a defective radiator hose they would not have been on the flight where the shoebomber detonated his loafers in the seat just behind the wing.

Do we have an official "enemies list"? If so, what do we do to them? Who is keeping track?

I will let you make some comments before I make additional on the record comments. Please don't be crazy. Think through your argument carefully. Some of this may appear on salon.com and we can perhaps help them get up to about 2 cents per share.


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To: Peach
"I heard it reported today that Nick Berg couldn't find work in Iraq, didn't have $$ to return home and refused a flight offered him by the State Department."

I know, and also that he thought the drive to the airport would be more dangerous than traveling by himself to Kuwait by taxi. Something is wrong here. He is either the dumbest person to ever live or the reports are all BS.
141 posted on 05/12/2004 5:41:32 PM PDT by monday
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To: jmstein7
ping
142 posted on 05/12/2004 5:42:21 PM PDT by Peach
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To: doug from upland
Basically, the Salon guy/gal made these points:

1. Your list is longer than the list currently posted at the source site.
>> The insinuation is that you made up the extra names, or got them from some other source.
>> A better (and obvious) question is why the original source has been scrubbed. If Salon is interested in an interesting story, this would be a good place to start.

2. Your false list may have been read by someone in Iraq. Since it was labeled "enemies", that person used it to identify people they should be on the watch for.
>> The insinuation is that a thread on FR is so high profile that Iraqi police in Iraq used it to identify people to watch for.
>> Wow! Salon must really think FR is hot stuff!
>> Either that, or the Salon person thinks Iraqi police are morons. Hmmm...

3. The local police in Iraq were able to tell Nick Berg was related to the Berg on the list.
>> Wow again! The Salon guy/gal must think the Iraqi police database is really hot stuff!
>> Or, maybe the Salon guy/gal thinks the Iraqi police think all Bergs are the same? Or, maybe ANY Berg will do?

The Salon "reporter" has no logic whatsoever to back up his/her insinuations. Is this why Salon is a financial wreck? Or is this simply the way all liberals "think"?

There is, of course, another completely plausible explanation for all of this. Someone at Salon wanted to see how much bandwidth they could waste at FR, and how much of MY time they could waste at the same time! And it worked! Grrr.....
143 posted on 05/12/2004 5:44:09 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: tscislaw
>>...have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?...<<

LOL!
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Genes?

144 posted on 05/12/2004 5:45:15 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
I don't read Saloon; in fact, if they said today was Wednesday, I'd check the calendar.
145 posted on 05/12/2004 5:45:58 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: doug from upland
a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group

Guess this "reporter" missed the video. Didn't look like the IRA or Hunters or whale killers or NRA members or Republicans or SUV drivers or oil co. exec's.

Although she may be on to something here, I've seen PETA and EDF threaten such acts.

Jammer
146 posted on 05/12/2004 5:46:34 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: doug from upland
Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted.

Well, I guess every civilian wandering around over there with the name of Smith, Anderson, Murphy, Cooper, Taylor, Edwards, Moore, Miller, White, Wright, etc., was also detained for the same reason, as those names are on the list, too. </sarcasm>

147 posted on 05/12/2004 5:46:46 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: doug from upland; LadyDoc
Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1128499/posts?page=7#7
148 posted on 05/12/2004 5:46:55 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: SauronOfMordor
>>The big question for the reporter is this: which is easier to believe, that A.N.S.W.E.R. redacted their list, or that you were prescient enough [in] MARCH to post Berg's fathers name knowing it would endanger him in MAY.

There you have it. Apply Occam's Razor, and we're done.

These conspiracy theory Lefties need to take the advice here:
http://www.zapatopi.net/afdb.html
149 posted on 05/12/2004 5:47:07 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: doug from upland
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List Breakfornews.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Fintan Dunne Posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Tarantulas Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death. The reporter believes Iraqi police regularly use FreeRepublic to determine who the official enemies of the United States are? I would like for the reporter to further explain the leap made in this paragraph.

Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly supposedly? or is there an inference here that maybe it wasn't a radical Islamic group and might be members of the radical right wing? Does this reporter think we're part of the wacko militia groups and have sent some of our members over to kill sons of A.N.S.W.E.R. supporters? by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.

The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. I haven't heard a reason yet why he was detained in the first place. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.

The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, often fanatical fanatical? Oh, please! Republican and relentless pro-war activism.

On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.

It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."

The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).If the reporter is going to stretch as far as they have to find a reason, why aren't they pointing fingers at A.N.S.W.E.R. since the list was already available there?

Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."

That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service. And the reporters point is?

I'm continuously amazed at the way some people's minds work. They can invent a tin-foil theory based upon you supposedly being able to see into the future and know Nick Berg was in Iraq! I'm sorry but I think this reporter is a nut.

150 posted on 05/12/2004 5:47:25 PM PDT by Sally'sConcerns (It's painless to be a monthly donor!)
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To: doug from upland
"Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted."

The above "theory" demands a tin foil hat! If these "left-leaning blogs" want to be taken seriously, they should lean more on FACTS instead of some wild theory.
151 posted on 05/12/2004 5:48:15 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: SubMareener
My time machine is broken and I can't get to May 22 to see the list. :) (It is from last year.)
152 posted on 05/12/2004 5:49:50 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: EternalHope
TOTAL BS. Doug was clairvoyant and knew that posting Bergs name would come in handy one year later. I think Doug has been scammed.
153 posted on 05/12/2004 5:50:15 PM PDT by John Lenin (Leftists's have the brainpower of a moth)
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To: Travis McGee; wardaddy; Eaker
You must come see for yourself how far out in 'left' field they really are ...
154 posted on 05/12/2004 5:50:22 PM PDT by spodefly (A 12.7mm attitude in a .17 caliber world, or something.)
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To: doug from upland; jimrob
"JimRob got some hatemail:...Hi you filthy scum sucking fascist pig. I'm an attorney who will be offering my services pro-bono to help Berg's family drag your ass through every civil court we can find jurisdiction in. "

I am pretty sure that representing onself as an attorney, without having passed the bar, is a criminal offense.

That said, if this buffoon (or anyone else) tries it, they have no idea who they are going to have to deal with. 100,000 registered users, and millions of lurkers, and we have money, insurance, and great lawyers.

And many of us are ex military. 'nuff said.

155 posted on 05/12/2004 5:50:31 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Hillary was in charge of the FBI files, which went into a data base: WHoDB. Genious hackers, expose)
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To: doug from upland
Hi Doug!

Dear Salon Reporter...

You asked Doug this question.

So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?

It's called research....Doug did a little digging......something you and your fellow members of the press need to do.

156 posted on 05/12/2004 5:52:01 PM PDT by Dog (In Memory of Pat Tillman ---- ---- ---- American Hero.)
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To: alisasny
Anonymity and threats.
That's supposed to scare Jim or us?
LOL!
157 posted on 05/12/2004 5:52:30 PM PDT by onyx (Rummy's job is winning the war, not micro-managing some damn prison.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Brandon Mayfield has internet access from prison?




LOL!
The Oregon thug?
Is he a lawyer?
159 posted on 05/12/2004 5:53:25 PM PDT by onyx (Rummy's job is winning the war, not micro-managing some damn prison.)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
I'll bet that email came on the letterhead of a large law firm, too. You know the kind, with hundreds of high-powered partners and stuff. I can just tell from the professional business-like tone of the e-mail, that Mr. Yourworstememy, ESQ. probably should be taken seriously.
160 posted on 05/12/2004 5:54:08 PM PDT by diotima (Juke Box Hero)
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