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THE DEMOCRATS' (SECRET) PLAN FOR AMERICA
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Posted on 05/15/2004 4:45:27 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis

THE DEMOCRATS' (SECRET) PLAN FOR AMERICA

The Democrats have begun their campaign to frighten voters before the fall elections. It's nothing but a replay of past elections, the only difference being that they seem to be starting the scare tactics a bit early this year. I guess you can't blame them. Nothing else has worked. The tried to hand the Florida election problems on Bush. No go. Then it was the economy, and that didn't work either. They gave a stab at the "Bush is stupid" routine, but Americans aren't buying it. Enron looked worse for Clinton than it did for Republicans, so the Social Democrats had to give up on that one too. So, it's time to go back to Democratic roots. Try to scare the beejezus out of older voters. It's worked in the past -- so it will surely work this time.

The ploy is simple. Convince wrinkled citizens that the evil Republicans want to take away their Social Security. It's an old trick, tried and true. The Democrats roll this one out every single election. This time the point men are Richard Gephardt and Terry McAuliffe. They're both telling voters that the evil Republicans have a "secret" plan to reduce Social Security benefits as soon as they are reelected.

So .. now that the Democrats have opened this whole "secret plan" idea – what about the secret plans of the Democratic Socialists? Just what legislative agenda does the Democrat Party plan to pursue if and when they gain control of the Senate, the House and the presidency? Well, your Talkmaster has been watching these socialists for years, and taking notes. Here are just some of the goodies the Social Democrat Party has in store for the people of America.

Remove a majority of voters from responsibility for income taxes This is the biggie – and they've made no attempt to hide their goals here. The Democrats have been working on this plan for decades --- with no small amount of help from the cowardly Republicans. The idea is simple. Using "refundable" tax credits and deductions and such ideas as the fraudulent Earned Income Tax Credit the Democrats are working to shift the entire burden for the payment of federal income taxes onto a minority of US taxpayers. Right now the top 50 percent of taxpayers pay almost 96 percent of the taxes. The Democrats are close to their goal. When the majority of voters have no federal income tax liability it will be almost impossible to pass any meaningful tax cuts – and further tax increases will be a piece of cake, especially if the taxes only affect those to be considered to be rich. Through this ploy the Democrats plan to create a defeat-proof socialist congress.

Shift Social Security and Medicare Taxes to the "Rich"

Payroll taxes, as you know, are basically Social Security and Medicare taxes. The Democrats have almost achieved their goal of shielding the so-called "poor" from any income tax liability at all. But --- the poor saps still have to pay Social Security and Medicare taxes. Democrats conveniently ignore the fact that these same people will get full Social Security and Medicare benefits when they reach the magic age ... and those benefits must never be touched! It's OK, though, to excuse these people from the responsibility of actually having to pay the premiums for these insurance and retirement benefits. So ..... the next element of the Democrats' Secret Plan! The elimination of payroll taxes for the poor!

This is a plan that was put forth by Democrat Robert Reich on the Cutie-Pie and Holmes show on Fox News Channel on July 31, 2002. The idea is to, as Reich puts it, "lift the tax burden off the poor" by eliminating payroll taxes on the first $15,000 of income. Here's how you do it. The Democrats pass a law which says that nobody has to pay any payroll taxes on the first $15,000 of their income. Bingo -- the poor now have a completely free ride! They are now life-long, dedicated Democratic voters. But wait! Isn't that going to cost the government money? Are you kidding? Of course it's not! It's not going to cost the government money because they're simply going to raise the salary cap for Social Security taxes by enough to cover the lost revenues! Right now the cap is around $88,000 on Social Security taxes. To cover the shortfall Reich says they will just raise the salary cap by $15,000 ... to $103,000 a hear. Reich forgets, though, that there is no cap on Medicare taxes, so raising the cap by $15,000 would not recover the Medicare taxes lost by excluding the first $15,000 in income. In reality the Democrats would have to raise the salary cap by about $19,000. They would just round it off to $20,000.

So, there you go. Shifting the burden for the cost of Social Security and Medicare for low income earners onto high income earners. The Democratic way.

Massive increase in Social Security taxes As we've said, Social Security is a mainstay when it comes to Democrat vote-buying. Social Security was, is and always will be nothing more than a giant income redistribution scheme designed to create dependency on government and loyalty to the program's protectors in congress. The more money you pour into Social Security benefits, the more the wizened class loves you, depends on you and will be dedicated to keeping you in office. The Democrats need massive new funding sources to pay expanded Social Security benefits --- but they must get that money without raising Social Security taxes on the middle and lower income groups. The solution? The Democrats have a "secret plan" to expand the wage base for Social Security taxes. Right now you only pay these taxes on the first $88,000 or so of income. Give the Democrats the power and watch that wage base jump to $100,000, $200,000 and beyond. The eventual Democrat Party goal is to have people pay Social Security taxes on every penny they earn ... no matter how much that is. There will no comparable increase in benefits for the high income earners. The extra money will be used to keep the Democratic middle and low-income constituency happy.

End the home mortgage interest deduction

Democrats have been after this income tax deduction for decades. They call it a "subsidy." Now the more intelligent among us will clearly understand that allowing someone to keep more of the money that they earn can hardly be called a "subsidy." But we're talking about the more intelligent among us. These people aren't likely to be voting for Democrats anyway!

As soon as the Democrats manage to gain control of the federal government they will move to eliminate this "subsidy for the rich." They know that there will be little adverse political fallout. After all -- the mortgage interest deduction is only valuable to people who actually pay income taxes AND who itemize their deductions. Democrats have already succeeded in removing most of their core constituency from the income tax rolls --- so what is there to lose?

When the Democrats ride into power you had better be prepared to kiss that mortgage interest deduction -- and a lot more of your money -- a fond farewell.

Socialized Medicine

They already tried this with Hillary Care. It failed. Democrats aren't discouraged by failure. They just try and try again until they finally get you to swallow the poison pill. There are two basic reasons the Democrats are working so hard for complete government control of this huge segment of our economy. One, of course, is power. Health care comprises about 15% of our national economy. If the government can seize control of this large a segment of our economy a giant step toward a socialist economy will have been achieved. The second reason is control. Think about it. If you control a person's access to healthcare ... you effectively control that person.

Right now the Democrats have had to put their plans for socialized medicine on hold. Those pesky Republicans in the House and the White House are making things tough. Democrats have to be satisfied with just sitting up there in the Beltway blocking any efforts to introduce competition into the medical marketplace.

Democrats live in quaking fear of free market competition. This was one of the reasons they worked so hard to defeat Bush's economic stimulus plan. There was a provision in that plan that would allow laid-off workers to go out into the marketplace to find health insurance. They would then be allowed a tax credit to cover the cost of that health insurance premium. Democrats wanted federal funds to be paid to employers to encourage employers to extend health insurance benefits to laid-off workers. Democrats knew that if private individuals ventured into the free marketplace to find health insurance they might just find that free market competition could deliver a superior insurance product at a reduced price.

Tax your pension funds

This idea first received serious consideration in the early Clintonista years. As soon as the Republicans took control of the Congress the idea disappeared. Right now it's being "secretly" incubated by Democrats to be hatched when they regain control. The idea is simple. There are trillions of dollars out there in various private pension and 401K plans. All of these trillions of dollars are earning interest for (gasp!) private investors and individuals and not for the government! To make matters worse – most of these private pension and 401K plans are owned by the evil, hated upper income earners.

The "secret" plan? A one-time 15% tax on the outstanding balance of all private pension and 401K retirement plans. This money would be paid into the general fund of the federal government and used to fund various social programs for low and middle-income earners.

Is this a dangerous plan for Democrats? Not really. The plan would take money chiefly from those who earn enough money to actually pay income taxes and contribute to pension plans. These people do not make up the core of Democratic voters.

Tax your pension contributions also

After the Democrats levy their 15% tax on the outstanding balance of all pension and 401K plans, they intend to follow up with a tax on all future contributions to these plans. The theory is that "rich" people shouldn't be allowed to contribute that money to these plans tax free when "poor" people don't have that opportunity.

The Magic of Imputed Income

Imputed? What does "imputed" mean?

One definition is to "credit." So, by imputed income, we mean that you are credited with income you didn't necessarily earn.

The goal is clear. Democrats want to milk the high-achievers for as much money as they possibly can. There are really only two ways Democrats can get more income tax out of you. One way is to raise the tax rates. At some point this is going to prove to be politically risky. So, how else can they bleed you for more? Even Democrats who have been to government schools can do simple math. They know they can get more money out of you if that line on your income tax return that reads "taxable income" can be increased. Forty percent of $120,000 is more than 40% of $90,000. All you have to do is impute – credit – more income to the poor taxpaying high-achiever.

So --- here is the idea that the Clinton Administration was tossing around prior to the voter revolution of 1994. They were going to impute – credit – extra income to people who own their own homes. This was going to be done for two reasons. First, to push more people into the higher income brackets where Clinton tax increases could reach them. Second, to increase the amount of taxes actually collected from these people. Here's how Clinton's imputed income scheme was going to work:

Let's say you own a home worth $250,000. Your payments on that home are about $2,000 a month. The government uses census data (there is a reason they ask all of those extra questions) to figure out what a $250,000 home in your neighborhood would rent for. Let's say it would rent for $3000 a month. This means that you could rent your home for $1000 a month more than your payments. But you're not renting your home, you're living in it. You must know that this just isn't fair to people who have to rent homes. They don't get the tax deductions you get. They don't own their own homes because, unlike you, they haven't, as Dickie Gephardt likes to phrase it, "won life's lottery."

Well .. since you're so rich and since you own your own home, the Democrats would really like to get a little more money from you, to spend on those poor renters and people who aren't as "fortunate" as you are. This would all be in exchange of their votes, of course.

So ... here is this element of the Democrats' secret plan for you and your bank account. When you fill out your tax return you will have to consult certain tables and government data to determine what a home like yours would rent for in your neighborhood. Using the example above, your home would rent for $3000. You're paying $2000 a month to your mortgage company. You will be instructed to take the difference ($1000 a month) and multiply it by 12. This gives you $12,000. That's your imputed income. Add that to your other earnings to come up with your taxable income. That adds up to more than $4,500 in additional income taxes if you're in the top tax bracket. Hey, it's only fair ... you being rich and all.

Don't gripe. This is all for those needed government programs for the "less fortunate."

By the way --- you should know that there is an imputed income bill in the Congress. It's about child support, not home mortgages. If you're a deadbeat dad who owes back child support you would, under this law, have to add the amount of your arrearage to your taxable income and pay taxes on it. Fact is, you've already paid taxes on this income once. The bill would just punish you for not forking it over to the ex-wife by making you pay tax on it a second time. Today, child support. Tomorrow, that money you could be making if you would only rent your home instead of live in it.

Economically Targeted Investments -- controlling your pension fund investments.

Here we are, right back at your pension funds and 401K funds again. Again --- there is so much money in these funds, trillions of dollars, that the Democrats just can't leave them alone. All of this money just sitting there and not one penny of it is being used to buy votes for Democrats. So --- here comes the idea of Economically Targeted Investments. "ETIs" the Democrats call them, and they're a huge part of the Democrat "secret" agenda. All they need is control in Washington.

Here's the deal. The government grants various tax breaks to these retirement plans. As you know, or as you should know, tax breaks are usually granted to force some individual or corporation to act and behave in some manner pleasing to government. The Democrats plan to change the rules on pension and 401K accounts. Instead of just investing these funds in stocks and bonds, fund managers will be required by the government to invest these funds in certain investments dictated by government -- by Democrats. In this way the governments can fund some of their spending schemes, but without using government funds. The Democrats will simply pass laws requiring fund managers to invest in corporations building low income housing; or companies who are hiring workers off welfare roles. Other "allowed" investments will be in such things as environmental protection, waste recycling and other causes popular with the left. In short order the Democrats will have rules in place which state that these pension funds cannot be invested in companies that are "unfriendly" to unions. To a Democrat ... any company with a non-union workforce is "unfriendly" to unions. Corporations who have affirmative action programs will get the not. Companies who hire and promote on merit will not.

All of this will mean that the Democrats can claim credit for spending on some of their favorite programs without going to the taxpayers. They can just, in effect, use pension money. The end result, of course, is lower returns on pension fund investments -- and lower pension benefits to retirees. That doesn't bother the Democrats, though. The less money you have to retire on the more dependent on government you will be.

Force employers to pay for "family leave."

Right now the Family Leave Act requires employers to give employees about 12 weeks of unpaid "family leave" to take care of certain family events and emergencies, such as having a baby, illness, death or some other situation. The key here is that the family leave is unpaid. The Democrats want employers to continue to pay the employees while they take their extended vacation. The Democrats "secret" plan is to begin with a law requiring payment of about one-half of the employee's salary. This will give Democratic candidates the opportunity to campaign in future years on the basis of increasing the percentage paid to those on family leave. Paying people for not working --- a Democrat staple.

Seizure of property of those who flee Democratic tyranny As Democrats work diligently for more control over our economy and increase levels of income redistribution many high-achieving Americans are making plans to run. The greater the confiscation of wealth becomes the more people start looking for other countries in which to base their businesses. Democrats have a "secret plan" to impose confiscatory taxes on any Americans who try to move their wealth or their business interests out of this country.

Government paid childcare for majority of voters

The absolute last thing a Democrat would ever do would be to suggest to anyone that they shouldn't have a baby they can't afford to raise. Democrats know that children are the absolute more important thing in the lives of millions of Americans. They have been working for decades to impose ever more expensive rules and regulations on private child care agencies. They have also been working to raise taxes to the point that it is difficult beyond reason to raise a child on the income of one working parent. Thus ... the necessity of child care. If the government steps in and provides the funds for that child care then, to that extent, the parents become just that much more dependent on government ... and Democrats.

Government control of all childhood education (indoctrination) Democrats are the party of big government. Democrats are more than thrilled with the increased propensity of many Americans to look to government for the solution to virtually all problems they face in their daily lives. Democrats know that to teach people that they can expect the government to be there to solve all of their problems you have to start with the children. Catholic schools can be expected to teach their students that Catholicism is good. Jewish private schools are going to sing the praises of Judaism. Christian schools will teach the children that Jesus is really cool. Government schools? Government schools will promote what? Government! Thus, Democrats see a clear need to keep as many children in government education programs as possible. The "secret" plan? Continue to work against any ideas that would make it easier for parents to remove their children from government schools. This means working against such ideas as vouchers or tax credits to help parents afford the cost of private schools. They will also work to add increased regulations to parents who make the decision to home school their children.

Government imposed limits on executive income

This one is really going to have to wait until Democrats have a solid control of the federal machine. The Social Democrat party has plans to institute limits on executive compensation. The idea is to impose confiscatory corporate income taxes on companies who pay their top executives more than X-times the compensation paid to the lowest-paid employees.

Repealing the Second Amendment

Haven't you ever thought it a bit odd that leftists and Democrats are generally opposed to the concept of the private ownership of firearms, while conservatives and libertarians favor the idea? Well, there's a reason. Those who value and celebrate the worth of the individual and of individual freedom generally believe that the individual should be permitted to own and bear arms. Those who put the power of government over and above the power of the individual would just as soon see the individual unarmed. Armed individuals are, of course, a threat to tyranny.

Destroy talk radio

Democrats aren't fond of talk radio. They know that Rush Limbaugh played a huge role in the voter revolution of 1994. Leftists realize that almost all successful talk radio shows are hosted by people who do not share their political views. They will try to neutralize talk radio through regulation. Since Democrats love the "fair" word so much, they'll try to resurrect something called the "Fairness Doctrine." How would this law work? Well, for example, a talk show host would not be allowed to voice opposition to a particular Democrat goal without finding some Democrat to go on the air to defend that goal. Talk radio soared in listenership and popularity following the death of the Fairness Doctrine. Democrats know that talk radio can once again be pushed into the radio background with new regulations that stifle conservative and libertarian voices. Give them the power -- and it's time for me to retire. You should be aware that at a recent meeting of the Democratic Party of Oregon a resolution was adopted to use the power of government and the "fairness doctrine" to reign in those horrible right wing talk show hosts.

Wait! There's more

The above list is by no means complete. Keep you eye on this page as we work to expose even more of the "secret plans" of America's socialist party, the Democrats.


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1 posted on 05/15/2004 4:45:27 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis
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To: *Taxreform

Boortz Bump


2 posted on 05/15/2004 4:46:00 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

The only people to have successfully taxed and reduced SS benefits have been RATs.


3 posted on 05/15/2004 4:52:57 AM PDT by evad ("Such an enemy cannot be deterred, detained, appeased, or negotiated with. It can only be destroyed")
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To: Remember_Salamis
This is fantasy. Image Charles Rangel D-NY as Chairman of the House Ways & Means Committee. Then you too could be the prophet of Charlie's rANGELs. Demos believe he ends justify the means. Their only end-game is power>POWER>>>P O W E R !!!! We all know they stand for nothing. Neil gives them much credit they do not deserve.
4 posted on 05/15/2004 4:53:32 AM PDT by Broker (POGO)
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To: anyone

Hasn't Kerry been "Scaring" his own party the last months?
or was that McCain?


5 posted on 05/15/2004 4:54:33 AM PDT by AirBorn
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To: Remember_Salamis

Ed 'ASS' Asner made nice recordings claiming Reublicans were going to cut the elderely from Social Security...and then they started calling everyone..scaring them into voting democrap...

Fear and Lies....courtesy Ed Asner.....friendly ole Lou Grant....first they create and image and then they exploit that image...Walter Chronkite being another kindly ole gentle 'commie traitor'

IMO


6 posted on 05/15/2004 4:56:51 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Remember_Salamis
The goal is clear. Democrats want to milk the high-achievers

A lot of "high achievers" with very healthy 401k plans are in reality "disiplined savers". A plan to confiscate 15% of my 401k plan is conspiracy to commit larceny.

7 posted on 05/15/2004 5:22:01 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Remember_Salamis

Great article! thank you.


8 posted on 05/15/2004 5:27:52 AM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: Remember_Salamis

I always appreciate an article where the writer calls the rats what they are - socialists. The word should be used often and widely.


9 posted on 05/15/2004 5:42:38 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: Remember_Salamis
What is this guy talking about? Pension fund and 401k plans are eventually taxed.

Also he makes no mention of The Earned Income Tax Credit which was set up by Congress- essentially as an income-redistribution program. It provides a cash subsidy directly to lower-income workers to reduce their payroll tax burdens. So yet again, people at the lower end are getting a free ride. Jeesh!
10 posted on 05/15/2004 5:57:58 AM PDT by petercooper (Islam is not a religion of peace. It's a sadistic death cult.)
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To: Remember_Salamis
All this reminds me of when the Clintons were in office and some of the things Hillary was trying to achieve. God help us! Is America destined to have these two criminals from the Criminal Party around forever?
11 posted on 05/15/2004 6:28:11 AM PDT by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos! no matter who wins the presidency Fox will be our co President.)
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To: petercooper
Also he makes no mention of The Earned Income Tax Credit

Using "refundable" tax credits and deductions and such ideas as the fraudulent Earned Income Tax Credit the Democrats are working to shift the entire burden for the payment of federal income taxes onto a minority of US taxpayers

How much did you read? This is right up near the top

12 posted on 05/15/2004 6:35:37 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Remember_Salamis

So much for keeping it secret. ;~)


13 posted on 05/15/2004 6:38:45 AM PDT by verity
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To: Remember_Salamis; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
The Democrats have begun their campaign to frighten voters before the fall elections.

It could almost be called a terrorist tactic - no?

14 posted on 05/15/2004 6:41:52 AM PDT by Libloather (What REALLY repulses the Beast? A cheating so-called husband maybe?)
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To: evad

AND if I am not mistaken taxing the military retirements of our veterans was another great idea of the rats .


15 posted on 05/15/2004 6:58:23 AM PDT by douglas1 (THESE PEOPLE KEEP UP THE ATTACKS AND PO)
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To: Remember_Salamis
This is the most important presidential election since 1860. Democrat propaganda will intensify as November approaches. Expect the worst. Their allies in the "newsmedia" will use every device available and will create new ones, and remember, so-called "journalists" are 90% Democrat.

The propaganda is going to be relentless, ubiquitous, imaginative, and both subtle and audacious.

Do not fall for it!

Do your best to keep people aware of what's going on!

16 posted on 05/15/2004 7:01:34 AM PDT by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and greatgrandparents were all Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: Remember_Salamis
And be constantly alert for Democrat taqija!
17 posted on 05/15/2004 7:03:33 AM PDT by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and greatgrandparents were all Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: sergeantdave
I always appreciate an article where the writer calls the rats what they are - socialists. The word should be used often and widely.

Phil Brennan often calls them the National Socialist Democrat Abortion Party, or NSDAP...which not surprisingly were the initials for the National Sozialiste Deutche Arbeiteren Partei, or Nazis.

18 posted on 05/15/2004 7:14:53 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: arthurus

missed it - need more coffee!


19 posted on 05/15/2004 7:15:33 AM PDT by petercooper (Islam is not a religion of peace. It's a sadistic death cult.)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Bump for later.
20 posted on 05/15/2004 7:18:35 AM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic. (R.I.P. harpseal))
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To: petercooper

Je$$e HiJack$on before the Repubies took over Congress was pushing for a one time tax on all Iras, 401/403's and Keoughs.

That money would have gone to the "poor and in particuliar the "descendants of slaves".

When that was done, he then wanted a similiar tax on the pension funds each individual had at that time if their corporation had such a fund.

My Mother who died last year in her late 80's predicted that the rats would try to "tax" all of these funds in the late 1980's. My brother in law and I were discussing how well my 401k, iras, my wife's ira and his Keough were doing. My Mother, said, "If you are not taxed by the rats above and beyond your normal taxation rates when you withdrawal your funds, it will be a miracle!"

That is another good reason to keep the tax and spend al Querry out of office and his rat pack out of congress.


21 posted on 05/15/2004 8:44:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Wishing for an American military *defeat* in Iraq to defeat President Bush is treason!)
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To: Libloather

With Kerry at the helm, Dims will no doubt screw this up royally.


22 posted on 05/15/2004 8:52:36 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Remember_Salamis; *Taxreform
I concur...the same VERY OLD playbook.

..the GOP has controlled the house for over 9 years...during that time and talk radio, its been shown that the Democratic Playbook to be nothing more than a cheap collection worn-out campaign tactics...to scare the hell out of Sr. Citizens, every two years...

23 posted on 05/15/2004 9:35:45 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Repealing the Second Amendment

"Haven't you ever thought it a bit odd that leftists and Democrats are generally opposed to the concept of the private ownership of firearms, while conservatives and libertarians favor the idea? Well, there's a reason. Those who value and celebrate the worth of the individual and of individual freedom generally believe that the individual should be permitted to own and bear arms. Those who put the power of government over and above the power of the individual would just as soon see the individual unarmed. Armed individuals are, of course, a threat to tyranny.


Boortz is dead on here. (pun intended)

The socialists (aka democRATS) fear us now, and if they take control of the gubmint 'repealing' the 2nd Amendment is high on their list (That's for 'darn' sure). But getting it passed by all the states required? I don't know about that. However, I sure see them usurping and stripping it at every opportunity, the AWB being their current objective. In the near future any weapon with a magazine capable of holding more that ONE round will be an Assault Weapon. Not to mention the caliber. Heck, we'll likely be limited to using .22 shorts and H&R .410ga shotguns! ( note 1 )

Also, this reminds me of a Senate speech a couple/few years back by Senator Swimmer Kennedy, wherein he said that the 2nd Amendment isn't 'necessary' anymore and it's concept is obsolete. That it's intent was to prevent a tyrannical government and that in these times we have nothing to fear from our government! I saw this speech played on FNC at the time. He was serious and I think sober.

So when thinking about being PO'd at Dubya come Nov. think long and hard and vote for Bush, do it - for the YOUR children.

I AM THE NRA

1; I have nothing personal against Harrington & Richardson single shot, .410 ga shotguns.

24 posted on 05/15/2004 11:35:37 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments." -- Frederick the Great)
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To: Remember_Salamis

bttt


25 posted on 05/15/2004 1:07:28 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Stillwaters

Ping for your relatives


26 posted on 05/15/2004 1:15:12 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: Remember_Salamis

BMP


27 posted on 05/15/2004 1:17:35 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Right now the cap is around $88,000 on Social Security taxes. To cover the shortfall Reich says they will just raise the salary cap by $15,000 ... to $103,000 a hear. Reich forgets, though, that there is no cap on Medicare taxes, so raising the cap by $15,000 would not recover the Medicare taxes lost by excluding the first $15,000 in income. In reality the Democrats would have to raise the salary cap by about $19,000. They would just round it off to $20,000.

It's not even that simple. Let's say the first $15,000 (or $20,000) is exempt from SS. Raising the $88,000 cap by an exuivalent amount won't cover the lost revenue -- the number of people earning $88,000 or more is far less than the number earning $88,000 or less. It would only be revenue neutral if the cap were less than the average salary.

28 posted on 05/15/2004 1:19:31 PM PDT by RagingBull
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To: Remember_Salamis
This is what Democrat Tax Cuts does to Society:


29 posted on 05/15/2004 1:39:10 PM PDT by Two-Bits (Stupidity is not inherited but indoctrinated by the Left. Stop indoctrination NOW! Activate Brain!)
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To: Remember_Salamis

bttFt!!!!!!


30 posted on 05/15/2004 1:44:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Tagline under development... check back later)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Boortz is exactly right, and we're almost at that 50% free ride tipping point.


31 posted on 05/15/2004 1:48:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: evad
Something maybe you didn't know! This is really good information.....we should all hit everyone in our address book; after all, this IS an election year.

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1) That participation in the Program would be "completely voluntary";
2) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program;
3) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,
4) That the money the participants put into the independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and;
5) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to "put away," you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent "Trust" fund and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?
&npsp     A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratically-controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
&npsp     A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
&npsp     A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the "tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the U.S.

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?
&npsp     A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive SSI Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and violation of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the "Republicans want to take your Social Security away!"
And the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens, whose total grasp of world events is derived from sound bites and captions-under-the-pictures, above the fold, believe it!

Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during this 2004 election year! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve.

How many people can YOU send this to?

Keep this going clear up through the 2004 election!! We need to be heard!
32 posted on 05/15/2004 2:11:59 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: FrankR
How many people can YOU send this to?
Keep this going clear up through the 2004 election!! We need to be heard!

Copying and pasting feverishly as we speak.

Excellent post...thanks!

33 posted on 05/15/2004 2:58:46 PM PDT by evad ("Such an enemy cannot be deterred, detained, appeased, or negotiated with. It can only be destroyed")
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To: Remember_Salamis

read later


34 posted on 05/15/2004 11:05:35 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: FrankR

Excellent Information. Can we get pamphlets made of this stuff??? Or an email campaign???


35 posted on 05/16/2004 12:18:03 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

These points are dead on accurate. It depresses me to no end! One wishes to excel, yet...the democrats wish to take away any incentive...


36 posted on 05/16/2004 7:49:38 AM PDT by Amityschild (I heart Rummy!)
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To: lonevoice

TXLV


37 posted on 05/17/2004 8:34:30 PM PDT by Stillwaters
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To: lonevoice

TXLV


38 posted on 05/17/2004 8:34:54 PM PDT by Stillwaters
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To: Remember_Salamis
There's only one way to solve ALL of these problems in one fell swoop.

ABOLISH THE INCOME TAX AND DESTROY THE CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE CALLED THE IRS!


39 posted on 05/17/2004 8:45:50 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: FrankR
Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Ronald Reagan signed this into law in 1983 I think.

40 posted on 05/17/2004 8:56:23 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: FrankR

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Sw6VxetbM9IJ:bunning.senate.gov/index.cfm%3FFuseAction%3DColumns.Detail%26column_id%3D33%26Month%3D3%26Year%3D2003++taxing+social+security,+1983,+Reagan&hl=en


41 posted on 05/17/2004 8:57:13 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Remember_Salamis

I think we should check all this out first. Something doesn't look right to me. Be back later.


42 posted on 05/17/2004 8:58:48 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: The_Media_never_lie
A plan to confiscate 15% of my 401k plan is conspiracy to commit larceny incite rebellion...
43 posted on 05/17/2004 10:29:07 PM PDT by Axenolith
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To: petercooper
What is this guy talking about? Pension fund and 401k plans are eventually taxed.

Eventually is the key. For the time being a huge pile of money is out of reach of Leviathan and that can't be tolerated. Jesse Jackson floated a "one time tax" on retirement accounts for " needed infrastructure development".
44 posted on 05/17/2004 10:49:22 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: I got the rope

Alan Greenspan pushed it through,sheesh. BUMP!


45 posted on 05/20/2004 2:53:42 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is (still ) a Smug and Holier- than- Thou Socialist)
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