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Gore to Dubya: Condemn Limbaugh (transcript of Rush Limbaugh's response)
www.RushLimbaugh.com ^ | May 26, 2004 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/27/2004 2:44:49 AM PDT by weegee

Gore to Dubya: Condemn Limbaugh

May 26, 2004
Listen to Rush…
(...roll the MoveOn.org ad, Algore demanding Bush renounce Rush and all his works)

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RUSH: Just sitting here minding my own business. I'm not bothering anybody. Just doing my job here on the EIB Network, and the vice president, ex-vice president, of the Democratic Party, has demanded today that George W. Bush condemn and denounce me. (speech) We have the sound bite coming up. Greetings, my friends. Rush Limbaugh, the EIB Network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies. You are listening to America's most listened to and most powerful radio talk show, a program which meets and surpasses all audience expectations on a daily basis. I heard this bite during the break, folks. (Laughing)

We all just listened to it together, and we just laughed. You've got to hear this. This is a MoveOn.org event. It's here in New York at New York University. Gore and I in the same town. (Gasping.) MoveOn.org, this is the wacko bunch that is doing ads equating Bush with Hitler. Don't they have a new ad? Hang on, let me check. Move On has a new [staff interruption] Yeah. Yeah. Before we play the Gore bite, you've got to hear the audio track to the latest MoveOn.org ad, which puts an Abu Ghraib hood over the Statute of Liberty.

VOICE: (Absurd doom-and-gloom music.) They said we went to Iraq to bring American values -- democracy, liberty. But something has gone terribly wrong. (Dramatic pause) Now it's been reported that (Secretary of Defense) Donald Rumsfeld initiated the plan that encouraged the physical coercion and sexual humiliation of prisoners. [Rush laughing] Rumsfeld has endangered our soldiers and America. [sic] Why hasn't (President of the United States) George (W.) Bush fired this man?

RUSH: (Laughing.) So that's their latest commercial, and I haven't seen it, but apparently during one of the darkest moments of that commercial is where a hood, an Abu Ghraib hood, is placed over (laughing) the Statue of Liberty. That's what I meant earlier about these people kind of going a little too far. They're really going to persuade people with this. So anyway at their big event, a big shindig out there here in New York at New York University, former vice president Al Gore -- I guess (EIB Chief of Staff) H.R. is right. I guess I've become the new Newt Gingrich of the Republican Party. A talk show host has become the new Newt Gingrich. He's the excerpt from the Gore speech.

ALGORE: "This president episodically poses as a uniter and healer. If he really has any desire to play that role, then I call upon him to condemn Rush Limbaugh, perhaps his strongest political supporter, who said publicly that the torture in Abu Grab [sic—Ghraib] was 'a brilliant maneuver' and that the photos were 'good old American pornography,' and that the actions portrayed were simply those of people 'having a good time' and 'needing to blow off steam.'"

RUSH: I guess those naked pyramids are just not in the national interest to Algore. (Laughing and laughing.) Okay. Well, you know, here's the thing, folks. Algore, this whole speech, he went nuts. He's flailing around wildly there. Not just me, he's attacking everybody who has led the nation through 9/11, the war on terrorism, and he's making statements that are flat out lies in this speech. For example, the Geneva Conventions. I don't know how many of you know this, the Geneva Conventions do not protect terrorists. (PTI: Interrogation of Ultras Not Regulated Under Geneva) They protect soldiers who serve under a nation who wear uniforms who carry their weapons openly, and with the kind of threat that we're facing today with terrorist cells in the U.S. plotting an even bigger attack than 9/11. I mean, it says a lot about Gore. It says he's perverse, that he would be argue to go confer greater rights on those who seek to murder millions of Americans and calling for even tougher actions to seek them out and destroy them before they destroy us, and this is what is truly puzzling to me about the left, and this is what's disarming about these prison photos.

What really troubles me about these photos, above and beyond what's in them, is how they're being used to undermine our war effort. Now we have the former vice president, a man who was thisclose to becoming president of the United States, speak out in this speech. We haven't played you the bites, but he was flailing around on the Geneva Convention. He starts talking about conferring more rights on the kind of people who want to murder tens of thousands more Americans than he does seem interested in dealing with the people who want to commit those murders. He has succeeded in giving our adversaries in Europe and our enemies in the caves of Afghanistan and the allies of Iraq a message that they'll take to heart, and that is that we are not a united nation, that we do not have the will to win this war, and that we are weak and indecisive. That's the message that Gore sends today, and it's the wrong message, because it's a lie, and beyond that it is an outrage.

I don't think anything of this kind has ever been done by a former vice president during a war, but our adversaries and our enemies would be badly mistaken if they actually believe that Gore speaks for this nation, because he doesn't. I speak for more of this nation than Algore does, and I will say it on this program. Otherwise, why is he bothering to mention my name? He speaks for the radical fringe in his party who have become more and more the mainstream of his party. They are the Hate-America First radical left, and I hope the American people get to hear all of this speech. I hope it's played over and over again, for this is how low Gore and his crowd are willing to go to undermine the war effort and our troops and this president to promote themselves and their own agenda and get themselves back into power. Lest we forget, Algore and his boss, Bill Clinton, stood by while the enemy was plotting and planning to murder thousands of Americans.

They did nothing serious to stop bin Laden. They did nothing serious to fight terrorism. They degraded or military. They slashed our troop levels, undermined our intelligence services. Today calls for civil rights for terrorists in his speech while opposing the Patriot Act which helps us find and stop terrorist cells right here in our country, and Gore has said nothing about how he would fight this evil because he's obsessed with hatred not for the enemy but for George W. Bush -- and that's what identifies MoveOn.org. That's what identifies most of the fringe, radical left in this country. They actually think Bush is a greater threat to the people of this world and this country than any thug dictator, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong ll, anybody. They think Bush poses a greater threat, and as misguided as that is, this is what animates them. It is what motivates them and inspires them.

In this speech today he actually makes the case for civil rights for terrorist cells in these prisons under the Geneva Convention when the Geneva Convention does not even cover terrorists. But more importantly, the idea that this guy -- who didn't say anything about terrorism in his presidential campaign. For all you people that want to talk about how the Clinton administration was really tough on terrorism, go back to the 2000 campaign. Find for me where Gore said anything about it. He didn't. It wasn't a big deal. We know what Jamie Gorelick was doing. We know Gorelick built the wall with her famous 1995 memo that prevented intelligence that was gathered on terrorists from being conveyed to law enforcement agencies because of the way the Clinton administration was actually, according to a great piece at FrontPageMag.com. The purpose of the Gorelick memo, you know what it was? To actually protect the privacy of Clinton's fund-raising with the Chinese. (Story)

That's what the purpose of it was, and it had this ancillary effect of stymieing the war on terror. We've had Mansoor Ijaz as many times as he's got the breath to say it, talk about the bin Laden deal with Sudan that Clinton rejected. There is audiotape of Clinton admitting to an audience in New York City that he rejected bin Laden and rejected the offer of bin Laden by the Sudanese. So for this guy to come forth now and act like he is the great protector and the great defender of liberty and so forth when they didn't do diddlysquat during the eight years that Clinton-Gore sat in the White House is just a bit much to take. Here. Play that bite one more time in case you're just joining us and wonder what this little monologue was all about. Gore made a speech today at the New York University, and it's a big, big fund-raising event from MoveOn.org and this is an excerpt.

ALGORE: "This president episodically poses as a uniter and healer. If he really has any desire to play that role, then I call upon him to condemn Rush Limbaugh, perhaps his strongest political supporter, who said publicly that the torture in Abu Grab [sic—Ghraib] was 'a brilliant maneuver' and that the photos were 'good old American pornography,' and that the actions portrayed were simply those of, of people 'having a good time' and 'needing to blow off steam.'"

Since this prison thing has come up here again, we have this from Rowan Scarborough in the Washington Times. "An Army investigation and congressional hearings have spotlighted a series of conflicting statement..." By the way, hold it. Hey, Koko? I want you to go back to the website last week or the week before. I guess it was the week-before last. I want you to grab Kate O'Beirne's column that she wrote on National Review Online placing in context my comments about Abu "Grab," as Gore called it. Didn't he say Abu "Grab"? What's on his mind? He calls it Abu Grab Prison. At any rate, find out in Gore lingo what "Abu" means and we could really be onto something. But go back and get that Kate O'Beirne piece, because she had called me. She sent me an e-mail. She wanted to know what is this? I just sent her the transcript for the whole show from which those comments that these guys are isolating and taking out of context were taken, and she wrote a great piece that puts it all in context and perspective and explains what it was that I was saying in her own words. I mean, it's one thing for me to say it.

So I want you to re-link to that, or just post it, whatever. Put it up there now, Koko. Don't waste any time. Just get it up there now. Get this, folks. There's something going on. I mean, every day now somebody is out there trashing me and mentioning my name from someplace, and it's all these comments. These comments are two weeks old. Now they've even got Gore mouthing these comments. Last week we got a call innocently enough from somebody at TIME magazine. I guess they've got a section -- I don't read TIME magazine so I had to be told about this -- "Ten Questions For" and they change the American every week. Last week they wanted to do ten questions for me, and I agreed to do it. "What the hell, it's ten questions. Yip yip yip yip yahoo," but they pulled out at the last minute. They went to the editors meeting at ten o'clock Friday morning and decided to move it to this week, which is tomorrow. They're going to do this, right here on the heels of all this.

TIME and Newsweek have both, in cover stories, mentioned these quotes that you heard Gore just say about me. It is an all-out concerted effort. I'm honored by it, but I am intrigued by it. I have never seen a media figure targeted much the same way the president of the United States is being targeted, and now the president of the United States, who's got really important things to do, has been told or challenged by Gore to condemn me. (Tapping desk.) So I'm wondering about this TIME magazine. I'm still going to do it, but I'm going to be loaded. I'm going to be ready. In fact, they want to take a picture. I ought to show up in prison guard garb, or maybe take the picture with a hood on and say, "Here, I'm the Statue of Liberty. I showed up today to do my show as the Statue of Liberty. Take a picture of me with this hood on. Send a copy over to MoveOn.org." (Laughing.)

Anyway, where was I? I normally don't lose my place, and I haven't lost it. Get that thing posted up there, Koko, the Kate O'Beirne piece at RushLimbaugh.com. Anyway, "Army investigations and congressional hearings have spotlighted a list of conflicting statements about Iraq prisoner abuse between the top brass and the general who once ran Abu (Grab)" and I'm going to start pronouncing it that way I want to make sure that I'm not (to staff). Play the Gore bite, I just want to hear how he says Abu "Grab." (Replaying of Gore sound bite.) Yeah, right there. Abu. It's "Abu Grab." All right. So from now on, just like we used to pronounce Mario Cuomo's name "Cooomo," because that's how the Reverend Jackson pronounced it -- didn't want to embarrass Reverend Jackson, so he thought it was Cooomo; it was Coomo -- so now it's "Abu Grab." So the general who once ran Abu Grab prison or once ran it and who was stripped this week of her brigade command, 'Some military advocates say that Brigadier General Janice Karpinski received light punishment because she is one of the Army's few females.'"

Special treatment because she's a woman? "That's the charge recommended for a..." (laughing) and the "seriousness of the charge" of course, matters more than the nature of the evidence, "...recommended for a reprimand. She instead received a minor letter of admonishment. However, Major General Antonio M. Taguba, who completed the first of several ongoing administrative investigations, lays some blame squarely at the feet of General Karpinski. His report says that she did not act on recommendations from a series of fault-finding inquiries before the ill treatment began in October. In fact, William Lindh, who directs the Center for Cultural Conservatism at the Free Congress Foundation writes in a column this week that the apparent breakdown in discipline from the MPs at Abu Grab may relate to the presence of women and especially to the fact that the commander was a woman. The climate of political correctness or to give it its true name, 'Cultural Marxism..."

(Laughing). Well, okay. (Laughing.) "...Cultural Marxism that has infested and overwhelmed the American armed forces makes it almost impossible to discipline a woman, and risky for a man to attempt to do so. Whatever the reason, one theme is clear: Abu Grab was a disaster waiting to happen. Rules on uniforms were not enforced, soldiers wrote poems and other sayings on their helmets..." Oh, really? Are you telling me that these brutes, these brutes who did all these horrible, insulting things to these people, wrote poetry? Come on, how does that happen? Poets are gentle little flowers wilting in the breeze. Well, it might have been limericks, but anyway, so they wrote poems and other sayings on their helmets, saluting of "orificers" was not forced. "Records on inmates and escapes were spotty, and regulations were not posted. No MP had been trained adequately in detainee operations." (sigh) Just fix this and move on. What are we beating ourselves over the head with this for? This is what's not productive, acting like this (abuse) is regular and commonplace, and now we've got to stop everything to take care of this all for our psyche, actually all for the advancement of John Kerry is just a bit much. It's putting people who wear the uniform at greater risk over there, which we've been through countless times and nobody hears, when I say it.

END TRANSCRIPT

(NRO: Fraternity Rush - Kate O'Beirne)
(FrontPageMag: How Chinagate Led to 9/11)
(LA Times: Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize By Mansoor Ijaz)
(Washington Times: Generals at odds over abuse at prison)
(NY Daily News: Gore: Rummy, Condi, other Bushies should get canned)
(MoveOn.org: Remarks by Al Gore)


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1 posted on 05/27/2004 2:44:50 AM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
Al Gore has gone from marginally amusing to exceptionally tiresome.

Would someone please tell that rotten piece of..........wood...(whew!) that his time is done and to please go home and pour Tipsy another drinkie.

Regards,

2 posted on 05/27/2004 2:53:09 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: weegee

Hey, anybody out there think the Bush administration will finally take the gloves off and fight these pieces of crap?


3 posted on 05/27/2004 2:57:55 AM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: weegee

"Wee...! I'm only VP and I can drain dams during droughts. Imagine what I will do as president! Wee...!"

4 posted on 05/27/2004 3:02:24 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Backhoe's Gorelick links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts)
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To: weegee
Al Gore flew into the Cuckoo's nest.

Being a Democrat means never being off your medication. It's not just a disease, it's an adventure.

5 posted on 05/27/2004 3:02:35 AM PDT by G.Mason (A President is best judged by the enemies he makes when he has really hit his stride…Max Lerner)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Gore is as entertaining as ever. Maybe he's been drinking too much iced tea again.


6 posted on 05/27/2004 3:04:45 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Backhoe's Gorelick links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts)
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To: raybbr
I'm still waiting for Al Gore to condemn Michael Moore for saying the people we fight in Iraq (A) aren't "terrorists", (B) aren't "the enemy", (C) "will win". He also has essentially said that he wants to see the US get its butt kicked.

This sounds a whole lot like a known propagandist providing aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime (treason).

A lot of crickets chirping but no leftists denouncing Michael Moore's new found "friends".

7 posted on 05/27/2004 3:05:28 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: weegee

Algore can't even get the name of the prison right and he picks on Rush. Just like Howard Dean. I guess he'll be demanding the American Flag back the next time he speaks on the subject. <snicker


8 posted on 05/27/2004 3:08:53 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: raybbr

Cutting through the confusion: Few actual tortures took place, apparently, and people who poo-poo the non-torture tortures of wartime prisoners are hard-line about fighting terror. People who make a big deal about all this porno [which most of it is] are softies. So the question is: who does America want to fight terrorists? Hardliners? Or softies? The answer, as week-after-week passes, is obvious. If Bush doesn't cave, this is going to be a mere blip on the radar screen by election day, just another example of who is taking this war seriously, and who is trying to turn us into a useless, pathetic nannystate.


9 posted on 05/27/2004 3:11:11 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Backhoe's Gorelick links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts)
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To: raybbr
It won't happen. It was already difficult enough to prosecute someone for treason for speaking out (several propagandists like Axis Sally and Lord Haw Haw were convicted after WWII).

As with all things from the Clinton Legacy, the bar of civil discourse has been lowered (to somewhere in the gutter).

A host on Air America (Randi Rhodes?) made a death threat against the President ("someone should take him out and shoot him") and it doesn't even merit a blip from the national media (although the launching for the network sure did).

We WILL have a civil war in this country again, I just don't see a Republican president reigning in the anarchist-socialist element in this country (despite their seditious rhetoric). There would be too many claims of America becoming a "police state" and "denying people free speech".

You cannot threaten the life of the president, you cannot advocate the overthrow of our Constitutional form of government (sedition), you cannot promote the war effort of the enemy side (this is treason; if that is how you feel, LEAVE), just as you cannot yell "Fire" in a crowded movie theater in the absence of any emergency.

10 posted on 05/27/2004 3:13:18 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: weegee

I hope Al keeps opening his pompous pretentious mouth because the more radical these lib`s appear the more of a chance GW is gonna kick Kerrys butt come November, so keep it up guys, GW couldn`t come up with a better campaign.


11 posted on 05/27/2004 3:20:42 AM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: weegee

If not so dangerous and contagious, Gore and his delusional state would be worthy of pity.


12 posted on 05/27/2004 3:21:43 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades...And panties!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I would agree if times were different. Now, there is such a concerted effort to besmirch the Pres. and his admin. on so many fronts yet he doesn't defend himself. It's getting embarrassing and I am frustrated about it. I don't agree with Bush on most of his domestic policy but I am totally behind him on his foreign policy. I just want the "compassionate conservative" to at least look like he's fighting back.
13 posted on 05/27/2004 3:25:19 AM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: weegee
"You cannot threaten the life of the president, you cannot advocate the overthrow of our Constitutional form of government (sedition), you cannot promote the war effort of the enemy side (this is treason ..."

Sure you can. Afterall, isn't that Bill Clintoons legacy?

We are no longer a nation of laws. We are a nation of scofflaws.

The undermining of our constitutional form of government is complete. (just look at the way the Congress has allowed the courts to make law)

And yes, the 2nd revolution is coming.

14 posted on 05/27/2004 3:25:27 AM PDT by G.Mason (A President is best judged by the enemies he makes when he has really hit his stride…Max Lerner)
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To: weegee
Don`t forget what Tubby also called them...

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win."

My God, I wish I had some knowledge or connections to film making, because I would make a flick that would absolutely destroy the `Rats come November, just absolutely destroy that entire party. Just lay it all out for the public what these `Rats have done and said since 911. (I actually have about a list about 20 pages long) Sen Patty Murray - "Osama is a good man" and that other `Rat Senator who also compared Al-Qaida to our own Revolutionary war minutemen like Tubby. I forget her name (probably because the press paid about 2 seconds attention to it), but I believe she even called them "Freedom Fighters", or Madonna the day after 911 getting on a stage in LA and asking the audience to let bygones be bygones. Real nice. Your family member dies falling out of the WTC probably after being burned horribly and these mutts are praising and supporting the animals who did it.

15 posted on 05/27/2004 3:35:36 AM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims

Don't forget to document in such a film how the global Communist Party has funded the antiwar movement. People who paraded signs with Joseph Stalin's picture.


16 posted on 05/27/2004 3:38:27 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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Here are my thoughts on the subject.

This is the same bunch of people who are trying to drive World Net Daily into bankruptcy with a series of frivilous lawsuits because the internet publication blew the whistle on them and caused them to lose the 2000 election.

Gore and his croines are showing themselves to be very poor sports about having their unethical and illegal activities exposed.

It was his and Clinton's bunch that sat by and allowed terrorists to build up weapons in preparation for attacks. It was their policies which led to September 11th 2001. They know this for a fact. Rush is calling them on it and this is the best they can do is Call for Rush and his 20 million listeners like myself to be comdenned.

You DON'T reunite a nation by condemming those who blow the whistle on you. There's no way people are going to sing kumbya and hold hands or arm-in-arm with those who want christians and conservatives condemmed.

These people do not have the best interests of America in their hearts. They are only interested in the reacquisition of power and hold very malicious and harmful intentions towards christians and conservatives. These people give hope to all of the terrorist cells that are watching via sattlite and cheering their every words, including the words spoken by Al Gore yesterday at this rally.

Clearly without a doubt the Democratic party is a criminal enterpirse and I hope people will remember this come November.
Regards.

17 posted on 05/27/2004 3:43:39 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: raybbr

That's my problem. How can you appear strong and resolute to terrorists when you won't lift a finger to defend yourself at home? We are sending the message to the terrorists that we are indeed "a paper tiger". I don't know who is advising Bush to do this (Karl Rove?), but whoever it is needs to go.


18 posted on 05/27/2004 3:50:20 AM PDT by anoldafvet (Another Vietnam Vet against John f'n Kerry)
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To: stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims; jmstein7
My God, I wish I had some knowledge or connections to film making, because I would make a flick that would absolutely destroy the `Rats come November, just absolutely destroy that entire party. Just lay it all out for the public what these `Rats have done and said since 911

jm, I thought I should call this to your attention-- I'll be dogged if I can recall offhand the name of that other FReeper who has the site with all those video clips. Anyway, FYI, FWIW.

19 posted on 05/27/2004 3:50:50 AM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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To: weegee
The man is utterly insane. We really dodged the bullet last election. The truly terrifying thought is--what if he'd won? (shudder...)
20 posted on 05/27/2004 4:22:19 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: raybbr
Hey, anybody out there think the Bush administration will finally take the gloves off and fight these pieces of crap?

Why do you think most people are not a bright as you?

You create the impression that a brilliant person like you can see through Gore... but the ordinary dumb idiots not born with your brilliance have to watch a fight between Bush and Gore to see the truth.

What a load of condescending garbage.

When one side of a political fight descends into name calling and blame, and the other side concentrates of fixing the problems, the fixer always wins they election.. Even when the fixer can't fix the problems.

The classic case was in 1936. After 4 years of Roosevelt's New Deal the great depression was as bad or worse than it was in 1932. It is true that the Works Progress Administration had put 8 million people back to work. But 13 million more had lost their jobs during the first four years of the Roosevelt administration as well. Five million more people were out of work in 1936 than in 1932.

Republicans attacked Roosevelt around the clock for his failed policies. Roosevelt did not attack back. He proposed his left wing fixes.... even though we now know his fixes made things worse

On election day in 1936 the voters were faced with a choice. On one hand they had a Repubican candidate and party that only offered severe criticism of Roosevelt. Republicans were into hating FDR. They offered no real fixes. All Roosevelt talked about was how he was trying to fix things and how he needed people in office to help .. not hinder. The voters gave Roosevelt a landslide and total control of the house and senate.

On election day the choice was failed fixes or no fixes. The voters chose failed fixes. At least Roosevelt was talking fixes. They rejected the Republican platform that only proposed blame.

An election is very much like a horse race. It is worth nothing to be 7 lengths ahead in the back stretch only to be behind the horse that crosses the finish line first.

The object in horse races and campaigns is the same... stay close and save plenty for the home stretch.

You argue for a strategy that cost Bill Simon the governorship of California. Gray Davis was very very unpopular. Davis attacked Simon time after time. Instead of being the fixer and let Davis become the evil attacker, Simom attacked back even harder. The end result was a Davis win. Lyn Nofziger and others tried to give Simon a clue. He rejected them to follow your type of advise. Simon was certain that counter attacks was the way to go. Simple Simon did not have a clue.

Bush and Rove understand how to win elections far more than any of their critics.

The media and the Democrats have tried their best to destroy George Bush with hateful attacks. They try their best to provoke him into angry responses. They know if they can provoke counter attacks they will have a prescription that could result in his defeat. It drives them nuts that he never takes their bait.

But the world is full of people who would take the bait. They are a quite similar to a breed of fish called Suckers. They just can't help but choose the failed course. Thank goodness Dubya understands how to win... The lets trash and bash too crowd only knows how to lose.

21 posted on 05/27/2004 4:30:05 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims
"...Madonna the day after 911 getting on a stage in LA and asking the audience to let bygones be bygones."

Hmmm. Would this be the same Madonna who just cancelled a concert in Israel because she and her children were threatened by terrorists? You know, the one who claims to be learning the Kabala? Can't she just let bygones be bygones?

22 posted on 05/27/2004 4:31:09 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: weegee
Civil War? What is the left going to fight with, harsh words spoken with bad intentions? It would be the shortest and most hilarious uprising since the great french fry debacle at Roosevelt High School.
23 posted on 05/27/2004 4:39:19 AM PDT by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: weegee

"I speak for more of this nation than Algore does, and I will say it on this program."

And that is absolutely true.

I hope the soldiers "subjected" to Rush's program (because Rumsfeld hasn't taken Rush off the air, thank goodness) ttake this to heart.


24 posted on 05/27/2004 4:45:48 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (A penny saved is two pre-tax pennies earned. At least here in Canada, it is.)
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To: weegee

Al Gore was the man in charge of improving airline security systems in 1996. Why did he not reccommend locking cockpits and or arming pilots at that time? Was he dragged before the 9/11 commission for his lack of oversight?

I can't believe this guy was almost president.


25 posted on 05/27/2004 4:46:37 AM PDT by gore_sux (and so does Xlinton)
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To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

26 posted on 05/27/2004 4:49:39 AM PDT by Born Conservative (It really sucks when your 15 minutes of fame comes AFTER you're gone...)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Al has moved straight to "exceptionally delusional" -- just the guy to preach to MorOn.org types.


27 posted on 05/27/2004 4:53:11 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: weegee

Does anyone know the procedure in NY for serving commitment papers to this lunatic?


28 posted on 05/27/2004 4:54:03 AM PDT by Larry381 (Al Gore-role model for mental patients.)
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To: MizSterious

"The man is utterly insane. We really dodged the bullet last election. The truly terrifying thought is--what if he'd won? (shudder...)"

Millions of Americans that saw the Gore speech to Moveon.org are thinking EXACTLY the same thing this morning.

The political errors being made almost daily by the Democrats is mindboggling.


29 posted on 05/27/2004 4:54:07 AM PDT by Badeye
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To: MizSterious

ha ha!! That`s right! Come on Madonna, let`s not do anything rash, it`s best to let bygones be bygones. Yep, that`s what she said. Ms. Wisdom, "We should not do anything rash that we may later regret. It is best to let bygones be bygones." Unreal. Yes Madonna, don`t do anything rash like defending yourself with bodyguards. Just forget about that whole silly death threat thing and let your children play with those nice psychotics, after all we tried appeasement for 8 years and look how well it worked out on Sept 11th, not to mention the 10 billion other attacks during those 8 years.


30 posted on 05/27/2004 4:59:46 AM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: weegee

Gore and his fellow-travelers are exactly the same people who refused to condemn the arch-criminal of the world, the man who turned the White House into a whorehouse, the man who lied to anyone he ever spoke to or testified to, the man who, with Gore's help, convinced the A-rabs that it was safe to attack America. These people have no room to talk.


31 posted on 05/27/2004 5:07:34 AM PDT by vandykelastone (Nuts to Governor Goober: let's get serious now!)
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To: Common Tator

Well said!


32 posted on 05/27/2004 5:10:39 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: lt.america; weegee

I wonder if the American people, that is, the REAL American people, will ever have it in them to fight a Civil War against the forces of evil and oppression represented by today's Democrat party. It seems no outrage or degradation is ever enough to rouse the normal members of our society to action against the lunatic fringe that has taken hold of our institutions. I don't look for a Civil War, just dissolution.


33 posted on 05/27/2004 5:29:56 AM PDT by vanmorrison
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To: Thud

Here is a snap shot from the mainstream media/talk radio interface.


34 posted on 05/27/2004 5:35:16 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: weegee
Some people are good at being angry and yelling, AL bore is not. It sounds forced and his yelling voice sounds awful and shrill. Being a robot, AL is not good with emotions and should refrain from using them.

who here hasn't laughed at "HOW DARE THEY!!!" real convincing gore, your attempt at human emotions is commendable
35 posted on 05/27/2004 5:39:15 AM PDT by captaindude2 (Soon to be banned again!)
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To: lt.america; weegee

I wonder if the American people, that is, the REAL American people, will ever have it in them to fight a Civil War against the forces of evil and oppression represented by today's Democrat party. It seems no outrage or degradation is ever enough to rouse the normal members of our society to action against the lunatic fringe that has taken hold of our institutions. I don't look for a Civil War, just dissolution.


36 posted on 05/27/2004 5:39:18 AM PDT by vanmorrison
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To: weegee

Al Gore is calling Limbaugh 'devisive' at a MoveOn.org rally that pictured President Bush as Hitler.


37 posted on 05/27/2004 5:41:45 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: weegee

...we won't hold our breath waiting for Charles Rangle or Al Sharpton to come to Condi Rice's defense to Al Gore demanding she step down....once again, the socialist rats prove they are not an inclusive party.


38 posted on 05/27/2004 6:00:03 AM PDT by smiley
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To: Semper Paratus

Rush talks about winning on his show,now this is his chance to step up and show us.Not dumping on Iman Allie but putting his resource into get W re-elected.Total focus,no vacations,Rush this your moment don't waste it.


39 posted on 05/27/2004 6:09:05 AM PDT by magua
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To: MizSterious

It isn't only Madonna and her babies that are going to get their throats slits. I look at all the women, blacks, lesbians, Gay men, Jews, Christians, etc. that are supporting John Kerry and the "traitor" Democrat Party. These fools are too stupid to realize they are dead meat. Bin Laden and his boys are gonna have a ball killing all these folks! Yep, go ahead and vote for Kerry and the "traitor" Democrat Party, and you will be signing your own death warrant!!! Fools!!!!


40 posted on 05/27/2004 6:16:10 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: weegee

Al Gore is insane! End of story! The entire Democrat Party needs to be totally destroyed at the ballot box this November. Less that, and it is goodby to the USA!


41 posted on 05/27/2004 6:17:57 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: weegee

hanoi john looks positively sane and moderate next to the insane raving madman prince al the bore. Could this be part of their ploy to make hanoi john in to seeming moderate????????


42 posted on 05/27/2004 6:27:08 AM PDT by GailA (hanoi john kerry, I'm for the death penalty, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: weegee

Is Gore for real?


43 posted on 05/27/2004 6:35:51 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: All
Former Republican governor of California Pete Wilson once said after tiring of raving lunatics in the Democrat-controlled legislature, "The Democrats can jump up and kiss my ass."

I remember it from the local news. He was tired of stupid liberal tricks. Limbaugh and Republicans would do well to confront these lunatics with the same courage and contempt.

44 posted on 05/27/2004 6:37:36 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: weegee
I mentioned this on another thread, but you know... we're moving in the direction of Iraq. Their "groups" such as sheite and kurds are so divided, so filled with hate for each other that their country cannot function. They can't even set up a constitutional government without trying to keep certain groups completely out of it.

We are headed that way as the democrats become focused solely on HATE. I mean they are burning every bridge behind them in this downward spiral.

45 posted on 05/27/2004 6:44:31 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Common Tator
Thanks for the insults.

By the way, citing 70 year old history regarding one election has nothing to do with the way people think today. I know it would be the "honorable" way to play this game but if you look at the polls here in America you will see that Kerry is actully gaining. I also know it's early but the American people are easily swayed by the media. And, unless GWB starts fighting back, even a supporter like me, starts to think he has no backbone.

46 posted on 05/27/2004 7:04:00 AM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: raybbr; Common Tator

While I think Common Tator has a point, I think GWB is already "there" in terms of being the "fixer". He already has that high ground. He should be more on the offensive now, and all the way up to Nov 2. It's Kerry that has nothing but attacks. Unfortunately, since he has the media on his side, the attacks are working. It might be a good idea to hold off for now, but GW should definitely do some attack ads before the election, and also, using his office, do the same in a more subtle way with the media. That, combined with the fact that he's the only one with ideas at this point, will win him the election.

Again though, in today's era of sound bites, he can't simply be the "fixer". He must also be somewhat agressive.


47 posted on 05/27/2004 8:16:20 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: raybbr
Hey, anybody out there think the Bush administration will finally take the gloves off and fight these pieces of crap?

In due time.

Never mind that I'm thankful that AlSoreloser is not our president, but I am glad that I am not part of the administration. It has nothing to do with any disagreement with the President, or with his policies or agenda. I am completely in favor of the President, and would take a bullet for him if I could.

The reason I'm glad not to be part of the administration is that I would be so incensed at all of the falsehoods that are daily (and loudly) perpetrated by the left, that I would be calling for charges of treason and sedition, and calling for a scene out of "Hang 'Em High" with Clint Eastwood, a mass hangin' in the town square. Or, to be more humane, a mass serving of the triple cocktail. After all, "Flipper" Kerry, wouldn't that "Let America Be America Again"? People used to get the lethal Bill Blass tie for poaching cattle, for cryin' out loud.

The best way to get rid of smelly trash is not to put an air freshener in the trashcan, or to spray Glade in there. The best way to get rid of smelly trash is to THROW OUT THE TRASH. Or, in our case, VOTE out the trash.

When I have smelly trash at home, I don't let it consume me. I do my work, take care of my priorities, wrap up the trash, throw out the trash, and go on with my life, doing the right thing.

So the best thing that can happen is for the Administration to keep working, to keep America as safe as possible. Take care of Iraq. Take care of the economy. Combat the lies with the truth. Get reelected. And then...TAKE OUT THE TRASH.

In the meantime, to make ourselves feel better...call out the VIKING KITTIES!!!

48 posted on 05/27/2004 8:44:15 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney for '04.)
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To: Common Tator
Why do you think most people are not a bright as you?

You create the impression that a brilliant person like you can see through Gore... but the ordinary dumb idiots not born with your brilliance have to watch a fight between Bush and Gore to see the truth.

What a load of condescending garbage.

You don't think moderate, ordinary Americans are swayed by what they see and hear on TV??? Are you joking? Mass media - network television in particular - is a billion dollar industry simply because people believe, and will buy, what they see on TV. In this country, there are so many, particularly the elderly, that still believe that whatever is shown on network news is the gospel truth. They are of the old school in believing that "Walter Cronkite would never lie!" Dan Rather et al have stepped into those shoes, and although a vast number see through the bias, sadly, many do not.

After the relentless pounding of the Bush administration by the media, Al Gore steps in and turns it up a notch. You don't think those who have only gotten one side of the news will believe what he is saying? The fact is that older Americans are less likely to have internet access - many don't even have cable. Unfortunately many good, decent people may not be politically savy and well read. When the media distorts and takes out of context most everything the Bush administration puts forth, many people are only getting part of the picture. And they believe what little they see. It doesn't make them "dumb idiots" as you say. All they know is what they've been told. And they vote.

I don't advocate having President Bush lower himself to the depths of the filthy mud slingers. I DO believe however, sometimes silence isn't golden.

49 posted on 05/27/2004 8:54:11 AM PDT by BrynS728
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To: weegee

The more we hear from Alberta Gore, the more Gore sounds like Michelle Moore, only Gore is more the Boor than Moore.


50 posted on 05/27/2004 9:08:46 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Every functional brain in America is a threat to Kerry's Presidential asperations.)
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