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The Lies of Michael Moore in ''Fahrenheit 9/11''
ChronWatch ^ | 30 June 2004 | Doc Farmer

Posted on 06/30/2004 11:28:06 AM PDT by DocFarmer

The Lies of Michael Moore in ''Fahrenheit 9/11'' Written by Doc Farmer Wednesday, June 30, 2004

A half-truth is the worst kind of lie.

I’ve been getting a lot of guff from some of the lib/dem/soc/commie participants on the ChronWatch Forum for daring to comment on the movie, '''Fahrenheit 9/11,''' without seeing it. My view was that if you could smell a large pile of manure, you didn’t have to jump into it to experience it. However, that did little to satisfy them. '''Coward!''' they cried.

Moreover, I didn’t want to spend my hard-earned money to fatten up an already bloated man who is, by his own words, a terrorist sympathizer. Moore has called Islamofascists ''patriots'' in the past, and has praised those who slaughter and terrorize in the name of their own putrid political and social agenda.

Nevertheless, I went to see the movie today. I’ve just returned from the theater.

I feel like I need a shower.

Michael Moore spends two tortuous hours spinning half-truths, supposition, perverted imaginings, and out-and-out lies across the screen, polluting the celluloid it inhabits, and the theater it pervades. Moore apparently was upset that his movie didn’t get a PG-13 rating so that kids could see it. Considering the ''liberal'' use of the F-word in one segment of the film, and the horrific images of war interspersed with film of the high government officials in tie and tails, I would have given it an X.

Moore is a modern-day Leni Riefenstahl, with all the evil politics but without the talent. It is propaganda, (im)pure and simple(istic). Moore tugs at the heartstrings, makes racist comments about the enlistment practices of the military, and stands at a street corner like a Harkonnen baron without the suspensor units, accosting congressmen to have their children enlist and volunteer for Iraq. He posits his own form of neo-fascism, supporting his lib/dem/soc/commie brethren (who are far closer to the Nazi political structure than are the rep/cons), and dares to quote George Orwell in reference to George Bush, when it is Moore himself who is far more representative of the communist body politic.

He spends two painful hours and barely mentions the attacks of 9/11 themselves. Oh, at the beginning of the film you’ll hear the planes, the crashes, the cries. However, you’ll not see them for the screen is black. You’ll see people looking up, with tears and disbelief. You’ll see papers floating down from the skies. But he can’t show you the actual planes slamming into the buildings, and the lives extinguished by the hate of Islamofacist terrorists, might draw away from his main point--blaming Dubya.

What you’ll see instead, if you’re dumb enough to waste your money on this cinematic diarrhea, is a long, drawn out, badly structured hate-fest against the president and the fact that he actually won the election in 2000. Yes, he’s apparently still ticked off about that. Gore lost, and in every INDEPENDENT recount save one, Gore still LOST. Bush WON. Get over it already, Michael!

But no, that would be too simple. It would be too gracious. While it can be argued that Moore may be simple in the head (or at least simplistic in his political world-view), grace seems to be way out of his league.

He tries to link Dubya to the bin Laden family, but only one of whom, to my direct knowledge, is a terrorist. The bin Laden clan is rather large, and is generally respected in the building industry of the Middle East. They’ve done nothing to earn his enmity, and yet he immediately assumes that if one is guilty they’re all guilty, plus anyone associated with them. That’s racist and wrong; but then, Moore’s a lib/dem/soc/commie, so he can’t possibly be a racist, can he?

Perhaps he’s not a racist when he talks about mainly black kids joining the military, only for financial reasons. To me, that is Moore trying to represent blacks as less patriotic, and only interested in the money. Blaming Dubya for the poverty in the nation, showing run-down parts of Flint (the city's Chamber of Commerce must love Michael Moore!) and interviewing a rather non-representative group of teenagers about joining the military. Of course, he's ignoring the fact that the figures prove that military enlistment is pretty much in line with the overall racial make-up of our nation. No, facts like that are inconvenient, so he just forgets them. That, to my mind, is a lie.

And here’s a strange item. He disses Dubya for having a financial relationship with Carlyle Group, but seems conveniently to forget his very own connection with Lowes Theaters who is showing his 24-frame-per-second fib-fest, a company connected to Carlyle. In addition, of course, what kind of a hate-Dubya movie would it be without the constant references to Halliburton? Moore, quit dancing around and making baseless accusations. Provide documented evidence, not documentary dross.

He promotes military desertion in this movie. He tugs at the heartstrings, showing a family who lost a son in Iraq. He shows no sympathy for the family's loss except where it will help him blame Dubya.

Folks, this is not a documentary. It’s a hot, steaming load of male bovine excrement the size of a small planet. Lie upon half-truth upon supposition upon guesswork upon pure political evil. It is hyperbole exploded in cinema-verite minus the ''verity.'' It is ''let’s hate America''' in a greasy package. It’s scum made by scum, and produced as nothing more than a campaign ad against a sitting president. It sucks more than a black hole in a galactic core.

What I found most disturbing, however, was not the mere content of this cinematic sewage. It was the fact that people were actually applauding this filth, cheering Michael Moore, while heckling the commander in chief with a chorus of ''F-You'' expletives as his visage crossed the screen.

People actually believed that what Moore was saying was true. That’s the greatest danger, and my greatest disappointment. Perhaps it proves what Moore said in an interview in the United Kingdom, where he declared that Americans are possibly the ''dumbest people on the planet.'' That would certainly seem to fit the general description of the average viewer of a Moore movie.

I saw ''The Passion of the Christ'' and didn’t flinch at the violence, because I knew from whence it was based. I’ve seen an autopsy. I’ve viewed the beheadings of innocents on the web. However, none of that ever made me feel like throwing up.

''Fahrenheit 9/11'' did.

If the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is dimwitted enough to give this cinematic piece of filth even so much as a nomination for an Oscar, I strongly recommend that the viewing public boycott these political southpaws, their movies, their merchandising, their award shows, and the horse they rode in on.

Of course, the lib/dem/soc/commie sycophants and editors and movie critics and other assorted morons will extol Moore, this walking glob of cholesterol, and give him awards from Hollyweird to Froggyland to Timbuktu. All because they like the lies he spouts, and don’t give a flying fig about inconvenient things--like the truth.

As to Mr. Moore, he is probably the richest liar in the country right now. But he didn’t get a penny from me for watching this obscenity on film. I bought a ticket for ''Shrek 2,'' and just walked into the theater that was presenting Moore's two-hour filth-fest instead.

If you folks are planning to see ''Fahrenheit 9/11,'' do the same thing I did, with one difference. Buy the ticket for ''Shrek 2,'' and then watch it instead of Moore’s putrid palaver.

About the Writer: Doc Farmer is a writer and humorist who is also a moderator on ChronWatch's Forum. He formerly lived in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, but now resides in Indiana. Doc receives e-mail at docfarmer9999@yahoo.co.uk.

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1 posted on 06/30/2004 11:28:10 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

Now THAT's what I'M talkin' about!


2 posted on 06/30/2004 11:36:57 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: DocFarmer

Thanks for this info .. this is good to study to refute those who support Moore.


3 posted on 06/30/2004 11:37:05 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: DocFarmer
From Dictionary.com:

doc·u·men·ta·ry
adj.

1. Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
2. Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film.

From Dictionary.com:

prop·a·gan·da
n.

1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.

Moore's movie is propaganda, not a documentary.
4 posted on 06/30/2004 11:42:20 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: DocFarmer

The author left out one of the Carlyle Group's first major investors was none other than George Soros.


5 posted on 06/30/2004 11:43:45 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: DocFarmer
I bought a ticket for ''Shrek 2,'' and just walked into the theater that was presenting Moore's two-hour filth-fest instead.

Spread the word.

6 posted on 06/30/2004 11:45:46 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: finnman69

I didn't know that. Many thanks for that rather important point of information!


7 posted on 06/30/2004 11:47:56 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

Why, this film is just entertainment, doncha know, and should not be held to any standards of objectivity. Besides, some REAL truths are revealed, even as the events portrayed are somewhat at odds with verifible fact. It is in the faces of the audience, as they look on this visual feast, and find so much that agrees with their personal belief system.

The fact that their belief system contains vast and irreconcilable differences with reality, of course, does not reflect in any way on the artistic achievement of Michael Moore, American Hatriot.

The motion picture itself is in reality a poorly shot home video, spliced in with other visual records taken completely out of context. Some corollaries are drawn, but deliberately left without a stated conclusion. The message, if there is one, is that Bush is pictured as behaving in a singularly convoluted and uncharacteristic manner, and it is this image of Bush that is indicted by the arguments made against him. Michael Moore, American Hatriot, has built a straw figure, and demolished it. He has in no way made any criticism of the real live breathing President George W. Bush. Michael Moore, American Hatriot, has never actually SEEN George W. Bush.


8 posted on 06/30/2004 11:51:21 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: DocFarmer

bump


9 posted on 06/30/2004 11:52:56 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: DocFarmer

Thanks for going through the torment of watching this propaganda film. I'm not into socialism myself, so I probably won't bother. Isn't America great? You can whip up a propaganda movie filled with lies, against a sitting president, and then use that film to bring down the entire opposing political party!!! Remember Wes Clarke? Remember his run for the Dem party's candidate for 2004? Remember what happened immediately after Michael Moore endorsed him saying the president was a deserter? Whoops! Now, the entire Dem leadership is endorsing Moore. Whoops. Is that the grinding sound of the Dems sliding off the cliff I hear?


10 posted on 06/30/2004 11:55:14 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: BillyCrockett
Is that the grinding sound of the Dems sliding off the cliff I hear?

From your keyboard to God's ears.

Unfortunately, mainstream media 'Rat sycophants will do everything in their power to prevent it. Remember: in their world, up is down, black is white, and evil is good - it's the dialectic, and it's whatever it takes to get GWB defeated on November 2nd.

11 posted on 06/30/2004 12:01:36 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: DocFarmer
Normally I am against pirating, but for Michael Moore I'll make an exception. You can download Fahrenheit 9/11, and hurt his profits, here.
12 posted on 06/30/2004 12:13:55 PM PDT by Red 5 (Michael Moore is Goebbels' spiritual descendant.)
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To: Red 5

What format is that? How is it played?


13 posted on 06/30/2004 12:15:46 PM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer
Wanna see it without paying a dime?
14 posted on 06/30/2004 12:41:37 PM PDT by sharktrager (Help Laura beat Tuh-Ray-Za http://scoreboards.hotornot.com/2004electionwives)
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To: CyberAnt

Two hour movie...Yawn it must be so boring.


15 posted on 06/30/2004 12:46:42 PM PDT by angcat
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To: DocFarmer

16 posted on 06/30/2004 12:51:19 PM PDT by nunya bidness ( You and I have a rendezvous with destiny.)
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To: DocFarmer
It sucks more than a black hole in a galactic core.

Now that REALLY Sucks!

17 posted on 06/30/2004 12:53:29 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Molon Labe! FMCDH!)
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To: DocFarmer


Jabba some Moore
18 posted on 06/30/2004 12:58:16 PM PDT by GunnyHartman
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To: DocFarmer

BTTT!


19 posted on 06/30/2004 1:02:00 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: DocFarmer

You can download it with Bitorrent (which is a small download that is freeware). How to play it, however, I am not entirely sure, because my Internet has been terrible last couple days. It seems to be a series of WINRar files, so you can use that and then see what happens. It may make CD images, which can be used easily enough.


20 posted on 06/30/2004 4:19:54 PM PDT by Red 5 (Michael Moore is Goebbels' spiritual descendant.)
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To: DocFarmer

Moore: Saddam never threatened any american
Moore: Bush was after saddam because he had set a plot in motion to kill Bush41.

Those that LIE about history are doomed to repeat it with their own blood.


21 posted on 06/30/2004 4:23:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: DocFarmer

Hey, I need to know how many independent recounts there were in the 2000 election. Do you have a figure? I want to know the fact so I can use it in an argument.


22 posted on 06/30/2004 4:50:24 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: DocFarmer

>> People actually believed that what Moore was saying was true.

People do that. I am a genocidal maniac, after all. You knew that right?


23 posted on 06/30/2004 4:54:24 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: a_Turk
People do that. I am a genocidal maniac, after all. You knew that right?


You mean you aren't? :- ) Hey, how goes it, my friend? Been a long time.

24 posted on 06/30/2004 5:09:45 PM PDT by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: gatorbait

I'm doing well, thanks. I sent my kids off to Turkey for the summer and am doing a thorough(ly belated) spring cleaning.

How have you been?


25 posted on 06/30/2004 5:17:21 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: DocFarmer
If you folks are planning to see ''Fahrenheit 9/11,'' do the same thing I did, with one difference. Buy the ticket for ''Shrek 2,'' and then watch it instead of Moore’s putrid palaver.

--

LOL!!

26 posted on 06/30/2004 5:26:24 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("a "blow by blow" account of Clinton's entire miserable existence")
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To: alloysteel

Your comments are brilliant.


27 posted on 06/30/2004 5:28:30 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("a "blow by blow" account of Clinton's entire miserable existence")
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To: a_Turk
How have you been?

Just great ,man.Looking at retiring in about 12 to 18 months so I can be a drag on society. Seriously, working short, thanks to Gore's reinvention, and the like , but busy . How are the kids enjoying Turkey? By the way, that genocidal maniac fits you well :-) Someone has to do it.

28 posted on 06/30/2004 5:38:37 PM PDT by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: DocFarmer

freepers should go and see this in bunches then treat it like the rocky horror picture show....

whenever moore appears, throw twinkies at the screen...

when he speaks yell "oink oink he's lying."

whenever bush appears "thank god for bush"

god bless america and the first amendment whenever libs shush you...

it could catch on...


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29 posted on 06/30/2004 5:40:56 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: gatorbait

The kids are having a blast. Their grandparents are spoiling them. Meanwhile, my American ex-wife got pretty scared when all that M-80 stuff happened there during the NATO summit. But the boys are fine, they started sailing day-camp on Monday. Five days a week for $40 a month :))


30 posted on 06/30/2004 5:54:06 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: Yo-Yo
Moore's movie is propaganda, not a documentary.

Is there a reason Bush and/or his family sue Moore for libel and slander? I seems that someone could just portray as fact such character assasinations without having provea thing. This sounds like more than just typical democrat propaganda.

31 posted on 06/30/2004 6:01:36 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: teeman8r
"freepers should go and see this in bunches then treat it like the rocky horror picture show.... "

LOL at that!!!

I recommend going to a cinema multiplex and buy tickets for "White Chicks" so that MM doesn't profit at the expense of FReepers.

32 posted on 06/30/2004 6:08:20 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: teeman8r
freepers should go and see this in bunches then treat it like the rocky horror picture show....

  A good friend of mine took my wife and I to this movie - he was hoping to convert me, I think. Anyway, the lights go down, and someone in the crowd yells out "Let's hear some TRUTH." I yell back, "You're in the wrong movie." I see my wife and friend just groan, as they realize it's going to be a long movie...

  I was commenting regularly, and not trying to be too quiet about it either. But I only yelled responses when there was cheering, or some one yelling out pro-Moore comments. I was the only vocal heckler there.

  Anyway, as to my opinion of the movie. Moore has a good eye for stunts. His reading the Patriot Act from the ice cream truck, and cornering Congressmen with a Marine Corps recruiter were both effective and funny. I like political satire regardless of which side it comes from. But it's still just satire. He had two clips that I'd consider good finds. The clip of Bush in the school after being informed of the planes hitting the World Trade Center was a great find - no matter how much we like the guy, he looked terrible there. Secondly, the bit with the Secret Service accosting him outside to Saudi Embassy was also a great clip. The rest of the movie was trash.

  On the really bad news, it's effective trash. My wife did buy into it, and believes now that the war was just about oil, and that Bush was just in it for money. I'm sure she'll come around again, but the high emotional content of the film will sway some people. Not might - will. After all, it already has :-(

Drew Garrett

33 posted on 06/30/2004 6:08:59 PM PDT by agarrett
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To: Yo-Yo
My new tag line: Michael Moore has made "documentary" a 1-word oxymoron.
34 posted on 06/30/2004 6:10:56 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Michael Moore has made "documentary" a 1-word oxymoron.)
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To: FITZ
Is there a reason Bush and/or his family sue Moore for libel and slander? I seems that someone could just portray as fact such character assasinations without having provea thing. This sounds like more than just typical democrat propaganda.

Public officials can't sue for slander or libel - an oddity of the law, I'm afraid.
35 posted on 06/30/2004 7:04:29 PM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: teeman8r
freepers should go and see this in bunches then treat it like the rocky horror picture show....

whenever moore appears, throw twinkies at the screen...

when he speaks yell "oink oink he's lying."

whenever bush appears "thank god for bush"

god bless america and the first amendment whenever libs shush you...

it could catch on...


As much fun as that sounds, I'd probably advise against it. First, you could get cited by the cops for disturbing the peace (it's happened before). Second, you could get seven kinds of excrement kicked out of you, depending on just how rabid and extreme the lib/dem/soc/commies surrounding your are...
36 posted on 06/30/2004 7:08:47 PM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

BUMP


37 posted on 06/30/2004 8:12:58 PM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: a_Turk
they started sailing day-camp on Monday. Five days a week for $40 a month :))

Yeah., while we work our cans off.. What's wrong with this picture?

38 posted on 06/30/2004 8:35:20 PM PDT by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: gatorbait

>> What's wrong with this picture?

We're already dead..


39 posted on 06/30/2004 9:26:00 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: a_Turk
We're already dead..

Naw, as long as we are living ATMs. we are okay.

40 posted on 07/01/2004 7:07:42 AM PDT by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: DocFarmer

Bumping for a later read.


41 posted on 07/01/2004 10:34:05 AM PDT by AuntB ("Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is our problem!" Ronald Reagan)
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To: DocFarmer

Excellent article.


42 posted on 07/01/2004 9:21:38 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (I gave the Chinese our nuclear missile technology...because I could.)
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To: hobson

read later


43 posted on 07/01/2004 9:24:25 PM PDT by hobson
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To: DocFarmer

Wow...that was REALLY cathartic! Thanks!


44 posted on 07/02/2004 1:39:27 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Michael MOOOOOOore is full of bull)
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To: Red 5

Can't you get arrested for doing that, and worse than that, can't Michael Moore seize your computer?


45 posted on 07/02/2004 6:01:22 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: aggiecwby; Admin Moderator
Where's the beef??

Stacked four high in Mikey's burger bun. With quadruple cheese and quadruple mayonnaise, of course.

(Friendly word of advice, assuming you're around long enough to take it: Food references in posts about Michael Moore are just asking for trouble.)

48 posted on 02/23/2006 11:22:45 AM PST by RichInOC (Mikey should have called the book "Dude, Where's My Winky?")
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To: Yo-Yo
A propamentary.

And don't dare Ricky Dreyfus they're lies.

49 posted on 02/23/2006 11:26:41 AM PST by TeddyCon
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To: TeddyCon

and don't dare (tell) Ricky...

Hate when that happens.lol


50 posted on 02/23/2006 11:32:30 AM PST by TeddyCon
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