Posted on 07/12/2004 3:59:33 AM PDT by kattracks
Fringe elements are hoping to spark major disruptions at the Republican National Convention with a series of sneaky tricks - including fooling bomb-sniffing dogs on trains bound for Penn Station, the Daily News has learned.
Internet-using anarchists are telling would-be troublemakers to decoy specially trained Labrador retrievers with gunpowder or ammonium nitrate-laced tablets in a bid to halt trains or even spur the evacuation of Madison Square Garden.
Top cops are girding against the attempt to foil strong anti-terrorist strategies aimed at protecting conventiongoers - including President Bush - as well as peaceful protesters during the Aug. 30 to Sept. 2 GOP fete.
"Where is the legitimate protest in trying to endanger the public?" an angry Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly told The News.
"It is the height of irresponsibility," he added. "These hard-core groups are looking to take us on. ... They have increased their level of sophistication and violence."
So in addition to guarding against the most vile, organized and destructive of terrorists, Kelly and company have to combat a shadowy, loose-knit band of traveling troublemakers who spread their guides to disruption over the Internet.
The dog decoy ploy is the among most insidious in the fringe groups' bag of tricks - which includes throwing marbles under the hooves of police horses and using slingshots to pelt the animals.
"They're trying to use up our resources with false alarms. ... The sensitive dogs would become burned out with too many alerts," said a police source.
Preliminary plans call for state and city cops with the dogs and hand-held chemical detection devices to board commuter and subway trains one stop before they reach Penn Station, under the Garden.
The trains will be swept for suspicious packages and terror suspects before being allowed to continue into the station - the country's busiest, with about 600,000 passengers on a regular workday.
"We're going to make certain there is absolutely no disruption of the train," Kelly said in announcing the procedures on April 28.
Two days later, an Internet posting detailed how to stoke disorder by miscuing the bomb dogs.
The posting instructed people to "go to a rifle, pistol or skeet shooting range, spend an hour shooting to saturate clothing with smell of gunpowder, go directly to a New Jersey Transit, LIRR or subway train headed for Penn Station.
"Try to have at least two people on a train in different locations, sit or stand near the doors as the train approaches the station, try to get near police and dogs, loiter as long as possible around the dog, try to pet it if possible.
"If the dog alerts on your scent, do not leave or resist; the situation will cause a major disruption of the train schedule. ... If there is more than one person on the train that causes a dog to alert, you can bet that the train will not be going anywhere for a long time ... neither will any trains behind it."
The message instructs to "Play dumb for as long as possible" before telling the police you unwittingly got the gunpowder on your clothes at a shooting range. "It is important that the police call in all possible resources to investigate the situation. ... With any luck, Madison Square Garden will be evacuated."
"Rush hours are ideal, the final night of the convention, very good, too," the posting said.
After being alerted to the gunpowder posting, investigators uncovered Internet mentions of dispersing traces of ammonium nitrate on the trains.
Ammonium nitrate is one of the most common farm fertilizers in the world. The dogs are trained to detect the fertilizer because it has been used in major bombings, from the 1993 World Trade Center attack to Oklahoma City to Bali, Indonesia.
The NYPD also is preparing for possible "Black Bloc" tactics by small groups of anarchists, in which demonstrators wear black clothing and bandannas over their faces - and wield pipes, bottles and commit acts of vandalism against corporate "enemies" such as the Gap, Starbucks and McDonald's.
Cops have been trained to isolate violent individuals among peaceful protesters, and will employ an 1845 law that prohibits people from wearing masks in street gatherings, except for masquerades.
The NYPD has sent cops to Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Miami, sites of previous political conventions, and to Boston, which will host the Democratic convention this month, to collect intelligence.
"There is the same hard-core element that we have seen move from city to city where violence has marred protests," another police source said.
Trail of global mayhemHere's a look at major events in recent years that were disrupted:
- SEATTLE, December 1999: Tens of thousands of protesters storm into the usually laid-back city to protest global economic policies at meeting of the World Trade Organization. The ragtag group of anarchists, students and labor organizers takes cops by surprise, fights pitched battles with riot police and derails the opening ceremony.
- QUEBEC CITY, April 2001: Riot police fire water cannons and rubber bullets to keep 25,000 demonstrators at bay during the Summit of the Americas aimed at creating the world's largest free trade area. The leaders of 34 nations meet behind a 2.3-mile fence as protesters besiege summit site, but fail to derail meeting.
- GENOA, ITALY, July 2001: A protester is shot dead as more than 100,000 rock-throwing demonstrators battle cops at the G8 summit of wealthy nations. Heavily armed cops even mount predawn raids on the media center and protest organizers, arresting dozen of leaders.
- MIAMI, November 2003: Cops use tear gas and overwhelming force to break up throngs of hundreds of labor activists gathered at a free-trade summit. The police keep a lid on protests with mass arrests, but critics say they fueled anger by overreacting.
The cost of security
- The security tab for the Police Department is about $76 million, most of which will be reimbursed.
- Nearly $50 million will go toward overtime for the 10,000 officers around Madison Square Garden, and the cops who fill in for them.
- Almost $12 million is being spent on training in counterterrorism, as well as in First Amendment rights of protesters and media.
- Some $17.5 million is being spent on equipment, such as the construction of Delta barriers - metal lift plates - around the Garden area to stop trucks for inspections.
The words on Web that incite hatred
Here are excerpts from an Internet posting advising how to trick bomb-sniffing dogs:
- "Go to a rifle, pistol or skeet shooting range, spend an hour shooting to saturate clothing with smell of gunpowder, go directly to a New Jersey Transit, LIRR or subway train headed for Penn Station.
- "Try to have at least two people on a train in different locations, sit or stand near the doors as the train approaches the station, try to get near police and dogs, loiter as long as possible around the dog, try to pet it if possible.
- "If the dog alerts on your scent, do not leave or resist; the situation will cause a major disruption of the train schedule. ... If there is more than one person on the train that causes a dog to alert, you can bet that the train will not be going anywhere for a long time ... neither will any trains behind it.
- "It is important that the police call in all possible resources to investigate the situation. ... This will result in the maximum disruption. ... With any luck, Madison Square Garden will be evacuated.
- "Rush hours are ideal, the final night of the convention, very good, too."
Originally published on July 11, 2004
Nail the anarchists to the wall.
Some are communists, while others like Ted Rall are anarchist-socialists. Make no doubt that there are international anarchists involved in the "anti(American)war" protests.
Boy, do you have a lot to do!!!
First, you need to send me another copy of the above cuz that was before the big Hard Drive Crash of '03!
Second, you need to teach me how to make those cool HTML indentations!! LOL.
They ought to be enslaved for wanting to being mean to the doggies.
In God's eyes, there is nothing more despicable than cruelty to dogs.
"I find it very telling that there are no similar plans from this group of "fringe elements" for the Dem convention."
These fringe groups are probably funded by the same people who fund the DNC. A couple of good guesses re the funding would be from George $oreA$$ and the Opecker Thugs like the Mass Murdering Mullahs in control of Iran.
It is a good thing that the Republican Convention is not on the West Coast in Portland, Seattle, Gay Frisco or LA.
The left wing mayors of those cities would welcome these Watermelon Jihadists and have their cops giving tickets to the convention attendees for being conservatives.
Heheh. Sorry. But that just proves how totally these creeps have insinuated their way into everything.
"Soros and his ilk has really been spreading the cash around..."
That was the first thing that went through my mind when I saw the headline of this thread.
The second thing was that the Mass Murdering Mullahs Despots in control of Iran were spreading some of their Opecker Blood Money to fund these scum bags.
No sweat.
The problem is, these kids don't care if they get busted or roughed up. Their goal is to waste police resources and to cause as much of a disruption as possible.
Shucks, I thought this thread was about an anarchists convention.
"They're trying to use up our resources with false alarms. ... The sensitive dogs would become burned out with too many alerts," said a police source.
Sounds to me like aid and comfort designed to benefit the terrorists. The friend of my enemy is not my friend.
The left has been building the mailing lists since before the 2000 election (the antiWTO anarchists were the genesis of that crowd). They've been snowballing the list with "antiwar" protestors and the other assorted left wing causes.
The flash mobs are only a subset of those protestors but they are a dependable subset.
Couldn't agree more. The justice system expects a minimal level of cooperation from those in custody.
Here's a "indy media" statement on several G8 protestors from the Georgia Summit that haven't given their names since their arrest:
"There are still 6 g-8 arrestees in the Glynn County Detention Center, four of whom are on their 5th day (posted 6/20/04) of a hunger strike. The hunger strikers are: G-0002, G-0110, G-0147, G-0176. They began their hunger strike last Tuesday evening, and will continue their strike until the charges against them are dropped and they are released, or until they are tried." link
All this dorking around cost more time and money. Multiply this by hundreds or thousands and it really degrades LE effectiveness against real threats.
This current thread ties in with this thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1169478/posts
Terror groups operating as 'welfare trusts': Report
PTI ^ | July 11, 2004 16:46 IST | PTI
Posted on 07/11/2004 6:49:25 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick
Amid reports about suicide bombings and other forms of militant attacks emerging as a major threat in Pakistan, a media report has claimed that the country's Interior Ministry had "completely failed" to check the operations of terror outfits, seven of which have now resurfaced and were functioning as "welfare trusts".
"A startling confession by the ministry before the Pakistani National Assembly's Standing Committee on Interior Affairs late June showed that government as well as its agencies had completely failed to execute President Pervez Musharraf's orders in 2002 to hunt down and eliminate seven extremist organisations," The Friday Times has reported.
It quoted a ministry report saying that only has the country seen a spate of attacks in recent months, some of these groups have resurfaced and are now functioning as "welfare trusts".
It said that at the same briefing for the House Committee, the Interior Secretary 'conceded that the law enforcement agencies are under serious pressure from these groups and are finding it difficult to execute Gen Musharraf's orders'.
In a related article, the prestigious Pakistani monthly Newsline also reported that 'the era of suicide bomber has arrived in Pakistan', while The Friday Times in another article said the police was trying to track down women suicide bombers allegedly connected with the banned sectarian outfit Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.
Observing that the 'rising incidents of suicide bombings has shaken the entire police administration to its very core', the Newsline quoted police officials as saying that the militants 'have no dearth of volunteers for suicide bombings, evidence of which can be seen in the fact that two or more operatives were used in the last three out of five suicide attacks in Pakistan'.
It said an arrested leader of Jaish-e-Mohammad, floated by Maulana Masood Azhar who was released by India following hijack of the Indian Airlines flight to Kandahar, has told the interrogators that a decision was taken by militants, who were fighting alongside the Taliban in Afghanistan, to carry out 'fidayeen missions' within Pakistan.
"He is believed to have claimed that there are hundreds of mujahideen prepared to carry out suicide missions in Pakistan," the Newsline reported.
In another article, the monthly magazine said, "The militants trained for decades by the establishment in Pakistan to further its political agenda abroad are more dangerous than ever -- and now the battleground is their own country."
It said a handwritten notebook allegedly recovered from a militant in Karachi gave detailed techniques to make various kinds of explosives.
It also gave methods for converting an innocuous washing machine timer into a timer for a bomb, using tablets to obtain chemicals for use in explosives or using coded SMS messages to communicate with other militants.
that's been my concern also. IMO, the terrorists have infiltrated the mobs. Oh!! The mobs are terrorists.
"One thing that popped into my mind is that the really stupid protestors / anarchists travelling in from abroad for the RNC convention will have their fingerprints scanned in at US Customs and checked against the relevant databases. We have been doing so since January 5, 2004."
I'm not really worried about the Watermelon Jihadist from other countries.
What worries me are the ones living in the open in Santa Cruz, Gay Frisco, Berkley, Santa Rosa, Eureka/Arcata all in California. Then in Ashland, Eugene and the Portland area in Oregon. Then the large group in the Seattle area is the last area on the West Coast.
These Watermelon Jihadists are heroes in these left wing communities, and they live in the open. They never work, yet they have funds to go all over America to raise hell.
Loved that line, I may steal it for my tagline.
I hope if anyone catches one of these roaches shooting anything out of a slingshot, that they will beat the sh#t out of them.
Maybe the hardhats working in Manhattan will help quell this little group.
People in NY have had it, I don't think anyone here will cry tears over what anyone does to these bugs and that includes the NYPD.
Agree.........those caught intending to counter such security "on purpose" are terrorists . Not a game anymore. Not a form of protest. It is terrorism and should fall under laws regarding open sedition and terrorism. Time to define by action the difference between free speech, right to protest and downright criminal acts .
Stay safe !
The enemy within and the scary part is they get support from leftists in the government.
So what are YOU doing Mr. Christian basher?
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