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Message sent to DRUDGE re: Swiftboat Vets vs Kerry
Self | August 14, 2004 | Stockpirate

Posted on 08/14/2004 7:34:53 AM PDT by stockpirate

Matt,

The claims that the Kerry campaign and liberal media have been making concerning that the Swift Boat Vets did not serve on his boat and were not close enough to it to know what was going on can be refuted with two pieces of information provided by John Kerry himself!

Item 1: Kerry's own film that has run all over the place shows these boats close together. Because he knew the best way to show what was going on on his boat was from one of the other boats in the patrol, he had the films taken from another boat of him traveling around. Because they traveled close together, the film shows just how close they were.

Item 2: Is taken from the following text, link to article at end of the text. This is taken from, Humane USA Presidential, 2004, Candidate Questionnaire

deck. I think he provided all of us with a link to home and a few moments of peace and tranquility during a dangerous time. One day as our swiftboat was heading up a river, a mine exploded hard under our boat. After picking ourselves up, we discovered VC was MIA. Several minutes of frantic search followed after which we thought we'd lost him. We were relieved when another boat called asking if we were missing a dog. It turns out VC was catapulted from the deck of our boat and landed confused, but unhurt, on the deck of another boat in our patrolDo you have any pets that have made an impact on you personally? I have always had pets in my life and there are a few that I remember very fondly. When I was serving on a swiftboat in Vietnam, my crewmates and I had a dog we called VC. We all took care of him, and he stayed with us and loved riding on the swiftboat deck. I think he provided all of us with a link to home and a few moments of peace and tranquility during a dangerous time. One day as our swiftboat was heading up a river, a mine exploded hard under our boat. After picking ourselves up, we discovered VC was MIA. Several minutes of frantic search followed after which we thought we'd lost him. We were relieved when another boat called asking if we were missing a dog. It turns out VC was catapulted from the deck of our boat and landed confused, but unhurt, on the Do you have any pets that have made an impact on you personally? Kerry: I have always had pets in my life and there are a few that I remember very fondly. When I was serving on a swiftboat in Vietnam, my crewmates and I had a dog we called VC. We all took care of him, and he stayed with us and loved riding on the swiftboat deck. I think he provided all of us with a link to home and a few moments of peace and tranquility during a dangerous time. One day as our swiftboat was heading up a river, a mine exploded hard under our boat. After picking ourselves up, we discovered VC was MIA. Several minutes of frantic search followed after which we thought we'd lost him. We were relieved when another boat called asking if we were missing a dog. It turns out VC was catapulted from the deck of our boat and landed confused, but unhurt, on the deck of another boat in our patrol."

Analysis: This story as told by John Kerry sinks the claim that if the Swift Boat Vets were not on his boat they did not serve with him and could not have seen what was happening on his boat. Because there is no way a dog could be thrown 100+ feet, or 200 feet and survive landing on the deck of another boat, or 50 feet for that matter. So the only conclusion that can be reached is that the boats traved very close together for added protection.

Link to article: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:oYL6MPghCG0J:www.humaneusa.org/2004_presidential/question/jkerry_2004.pdf+vc+mine+dog+boat&hl=en

Thank you,

XXXXXXX


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1 posted on 08/14/2004 7:34:55 AM PDT by stockpirate
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To: stockpirate

I think Kerry might have made up that story about the dog...

It wasn't a dog. It was a cat. ;-)

And the cats name was... Christmas of 68.


Muahahahahahhahaha! Okay, just kidding.


2 posted on 08/14/2004 7:38:31 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: stockpirate
Send him this too

There's a mine exploding under Kerry's hand-picked SwiftVet storytellers, and Kerry's campaign is being blown 100ft into the arms of the Swiftees who say he's a liar and a fraud.

3 posted on 08/14/2004 7:39:21 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: stockpirate

LOL....I bet Matt (and about a couple of hundred other news orgs/pundits) know when they are FReeped.

I have personally though seen news break in the middle of the night and freepers start pinging Matt to post it and sure enuff in a few minutes, there it is.

Usully but not always someone is paying attention at Matt's.

Nothing gets past this forum for over a few seconds...never.


4 posted on 08/14/2004 7:41:42 AM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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To: coconutt2000

It was a Hamster!


5 posted on 08/14/2004 7:43:04 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Ping


6 posted on 08/14/2004 7:43:43 AM PDT by Valin (John Kerry: Dumber than Gore, more exciting than Mondale)
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To: coconutt2000
Actually it was the extremely rare Scambodian Christmas Hamster.

Look it is the rare Cambodian Christmas Hamster, Moi al Kerri. It appeared only once in Cambodia on Christmas in 1968 while on a secret CIA mission.


7 posted on 08/14/2004 7:44:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a donor to the Swift Boat Vets fund. Have you donated? If not please do it now!)
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To: stockpirate
The dog denied this story. He also said he was pissed at being named VC by that "lying SOB".
8 posted on 08/14/2004 7:49:27 AM PDT by Starstruck
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To: stockpirate

9 posted on 08/14/2004 7:50:20 AM PDT by OESY
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To: Starstruck

Case in point about Nam, I think dogs are "in the food chain".

But we need our vets here to verify.


10 posted on 08/14/2004 7:52:28 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry and The Taxocrates must be defeated! "Kerry wasn't in Cambodia before he was in Cambodia.")
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To: wardaddy

"Nothing gets past this forum for over a few seconds...never."


Did you hear Rush yesterday when he was discussing McGreevy and how he felt compassion for what he was going through? In the course of things, Rush laughed and said (paraphrasing), “I’ll bet I’ve started a very long freeper thread with this! They’ll freep this one for sure.” He was laughing and seemed to know what he was talking about! I never did see anyone else comment about this yesterday…maybe I just missed it.


11 posted on 08/14/2004 7:58:18 AM PDT by Maria S ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: stockpirate

Speaking of movie recreations, did John Kerry use real ammunition for these recreations?

Aside from the expense to the taxpayers of ammunition, it is the lifeblood of war. The life of every soldier and sailor in that area was endangered by this pointless expendure of ammunition. Every round of ammunition brought into a war zone can only arrive there at the risk of life and in the event of attack, there is never enough to go around. How could any one justify such a feckless exercise?

On the scale of Kerryism, this one is small potatoes, but has this occurred to anyone else? If George Bush had ever done any thing so idiotic it would have lead the news for three days.


12 posted on 08/14/2004 7:58:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Imagine whirl peas)
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To: Starstruck

It would be funny if another division of swift vets came forward and said the story about the dog happened in their division, and that Kerry stole the story from them.


13 posted on 08/14/2004 8:05:44 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: stockpirate

Common sense says this is more BS.....mine explodes under the boat but no damage done? How did he continue a search for a missing dog? Did he break out his cape and repair the damage himself? Duh!


14 posted on 08/14/2004 8:06:31 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: RasterMaster
Maybe the MIA "dog" was that Rassman guy that fell off "Cut & Run" Kerry's boat as it sped away.
15 posted on 08/14/2004 8:09:27 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The life of every soldier and sailor in that area was endangered by this pointless expendure of ammunition. If George Bush had ever done any thing so idiotic it would have lead the news for three days

absolutely - however, I think the undercurrent of doubt about the valor of Kerry's conduct in Vietnam has already begun. Ironically, it will be helped along by the all of the denigration of the military & soldiers that has been pumped into the popular culture starting with none other than Kerry, Fonda and their hippie bretheren. This served to dispel a lot of the "myths" of the heroic man in battle - Kerry will now reap what he has sown...I love it.

16 posted on 08/14/2004 8:11:35 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: stockpirate; Warrior Nurse; Taxman; wvromania
This story has GOT TO GET OUT!! The whole 'crew' paraded at the democRAT convention and all the lies!

KERRY IS A FRAUD!

How about a window sticker like this?


17 posted on 08/14/2004 8:12:34 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John lies!)
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To: Maria S

Yep, I know at least somebody on Rush's staff lurks, because I've heard him make points in his monologues that were posted hours or days before on FR.


18 posted on 08/14/2004 8:15:58 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("I'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go, people know I'm lyin' about 'Nam".....)
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To: OESY

19 posted on 08/14/2004 8:17:06 AM PDT by kennedy
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To: Maria S

I think this is it and yes I did hear it too yesterday

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1190977/posts


20 posted on 08/14/2004 8:26:34 AM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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